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Since: 6.1.02
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#1 Posted on
Click Here for one of the most ignorant closeminded WWE columns (sep. 6) I've ever read. And see why the WWE is in so much trouble not just what they think of women but overall attitude.

This commentary has more holes in it then swiss cheese.

It's so funny seeing someone try make a point when he has no clue what he's talking about. Ask Tennis fans who they like? There not all going to say Anna K because there Tennis fans, they like TENNIS. NOW guys who like checking out hotties might pick Anna K as there favourite. But will they watch 3 hours of tennis program, or pay a $50ticket. NO they will run to the internet and "enjoy" the photos. Oh yea this guy needs to but a clue women tennis out draws and rates men with our without(usually without Anna K)... Same damn thing about wrestling divas, will a none fan watch a 2 hour show of men in tights to see 3 minutes of a mud match? How stupid is that. Just like Anna K he can go on the net and see it online with photos or video meaning NOTHING in the ratings for WWE. But in the mean time turning off a bunch of people who actually like women wrestling.

HIs point on how women have to get over in the WWE. (even though he did mention chyna on that list go figure) well if a woman only has looks and no charisma or athletic skill get her ass out she's useless we've seen suppose attractive women get no reaction. Sure a woman's look is important but is this idiot telling me that a men get pushed on athletic ability alone! The Rocks look didn't help him, I guess the vitamins HHH takes is to help his wrestling ability only.

Seeing how this tool seems to love Eric's "Everyone wants TNA not wrestling" statement, maybe someone should send him the ratings since that show (Aug 19) and how the ratings have gone nothing but down every week since they pushed the TnA factor... Also how one of those "boring" athletic contest between 2 athletes Trish/ Molly in an intergender table match was part of a first hour that OUTRATED a second hour that was hyped a lingerie pillow fight. And how this weeks "HLA" was hyped to the moon and the second hour only rose 0.2 which way below the average second hour rise (0.5). But WE all want TnA that's what the WWE keeps telling us.

Now to my favourite line "NEWS FLASH -- THIS ISN'T JAPAN!" Could there be a more closeminded and ignorant statement in thinking that the American public cannot take women athletes serious. Boy does this reek of mid 90s when WCW started up there amazing cruiserwieght division (IMO one of the main reasons they started kicking WWF's ass) and brought in Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, Rey, Malenko, Juvi, Ultimo Dragon. And I'm sure WWF stood back and said "No one is going to want to watch a bunch of 200 pound guys fly around in the ring NEWS FLASH - This isn't Mexico/Japan, now bring out Doink and the Hog Farmers" and all the tools who work for Vince agrees But guess what N. Americans did want to see a bunch of smaller guys flying around the ring and allowed Nitro overtake Raw.

I've always rooted for Raw to rebound but after seeing this on there site I'm convinced they have this "We Know whats best" attitude. Don't be fooled it's not only about women wrestling but who they push in the men division as well. After reading this it really shown the light on why the WWE is in so much trouble these days. It's all have to do with there attitude.

Some commented on how Trish and Victoria seemed a little off on Monday well after reading this on your company's site I'm sure morel wasn't that high going in. I'd like to see the look on some of the hard working women in the company when they see an article that says they are no better or useful then Terri.














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#2 Posted on
It's all a company line anyway. The sad part isn't that everyone there thinks this way; it's that they might stand a chance of actually CONVINCING some idiot fan that it's the "right way" to see things, so that the cycle of stupidity can keep on turning.



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#3 Posted on
Wow. Why would they print this? Is this guy supposed to be a "heel" character, or a "RAW shill" character? Those both seem more likely than that they would see it necessary to seriously write an article like this... even if you believe it to be true, as a big worldwide entertainment company, why say it?

(edited by Tom Dean on 13.9.02 1640)


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Since: 17.3.02
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#4 Posted on
Given that the column has a Sept. 6th date, as pointed out by the thread founder; and after reading it, considering its tone, comparing it to other columns on the site; my first reaction is that it was intended to be part of the build for Monday night's RAW, just as the end of the column states.

Whether or not 'Tony Cali' (and his friend, 'Mario Jersey') actually exist, I'd say this is a work by WWE, who may very well have overestimated the traffic their site gets from real media types, and may have overestimated the number of hits they'd get from same once they started hyping the commitment ceremony-- they wanted to piss off someone who could take it and run with it in 'mainstream' media.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
that was written to tell the smarks to fuck off and get off their backs, i bet...



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#6 Posted on
To which I respond by saying to the WWE, "Suck my left nut and never expect to see a fucking DIME out of me ever again".

Although to be absolutely honest, I never spent more than a few bucks every 6 months on the WWF/E anyway. Two words. Evil. Indeed!



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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by Tom Dean
    Wow. Why would they print this? Is this guy supposed to be a "heel" character, or a "RAW shill" character? Those both seem more likely than that they would see it necessary to seriously write an article like this... even if you believe it to be true, as a big worldwide entertainment company, why say it?

    (edited by Tom Dean on 13.9.02 1640)



Yeah, wow.

It sure reads like a work, targeting the (then) upcoming Raw. Although I really can't see how anybody would think it was useful. Just who is the target audience that this is supposed to affect? Pissing off the pro-female audience isn't gonna garner more ratings. Collecting up additional oinkers that want to just see T&A? Basically, nobody who doesn't already watch the shows is going to be reading this column, buried down here in the WWE editorials. It reads like "Ooooh, let's stir up some controversy", but its overall pretty pathetic, compared to what they're doing in the programming itself.

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#8 Posted on
I really hope that this gets turned into an angle in which someone posts this trash on the bulletin board in the women's locker room. The women wrestlers all collectively say "f-it!!" and proceed to turn the division into All Japan in its heyday.




(edited by deadbeater on 14.9.02 1818)

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#9 Posted on
Now THAT is hilarious. Hi-Lar-Eeee-Us.



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Since: 7.1.02
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#10 Posted on
I think he does have some points. I doubt they could copy Japanese wrestling, and go over in the exact same way. Different regions DO have different tastes. (for example, the Japaneses LOVE Scott Norton.)

Women athletics as a whole does not = big money. WNBA? No. Women's pro soccer? No. LPGA? No. All-women's pro wrestling organizations in the U.S.? No. Now a women's tennis final does pop a big rating every once in a while in this nation, but that means Williams vs. Williams, and I would bet a large segment of the audience is women. (though if you doubt that Anna is a draw for women's tennis, you must not be paying attention to the amount of fans for her matches compared to others in the early rounds of tournaments) Figure skating and on a smaller scale, gymnastics, also depend on women audiences. Now I somehow doubt that professional wrestling in this nation will ever draw that large of a female segment into its ratings, no matter how they push their female product.

That's not to say I think that T'n'A in the WWE PG form = big money either. There are better places to get it, and more of it. And I do think there is room for women's wrestling, at the mid-card. But I just don't think headlining cards with Trish Stratus would be a big money maker. Afterall, this is not Japan.

(edited by ges7184 on 15.9.02 1048)

(edited by ges7184 on 15.9.02 1049)
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#11 Posted on
Who the Hell is talking about headlining a card with a women's match? No one's talking about becoming headliners here - the women in Japan aren't headliners on mostly men's cards, so you must be reading a different thread to think that's the ultimate goal. The real point of consternation is whether or not the wrestling should even be taken *seriously*, and this chump says, "Oh, they'll never be over, so just show your tits and get it over with." Of course, WWE has never TRIED to A) train women who had a clue in the ring, B) take the ones who could go and give them some characterization the fans would pay attention to, or C) separate that from the T&A, so how do they know what will and won't work? They're not even giving their women a chance to get over *on their own steam*. Like I said, it's a company line; it exists to piss off educated fans. Well, that's all fine and well, but hey, guess what, WWE - your women's division still sucks ass with a capital ASS. And it will continue to do so.



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#12 Posted on
News flash! The E is dumb and they've always been dumb. Especially WWE.com.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by VK Wallstreet
    News flash! The E is dumb and they've always been dumb. Especially WWE.com.


it's also awkward. They were THE World Wrestling Federation and calling them THE World Wrestling Entertainment just sounds wrong.

i think Rick wrote an article about this a few months ago. i wish they just went back to WWWF, but then their site would be www.wwwf.com

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#14 Posted on
I kinda find the Williamses attractive...



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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by rikidozan
    it's also awkward. They were THE World Wrestling Federation and calling them THE World Wrestling Entertainment just sounds wrong.
Oh, all I was sayin' was that WWE is stupid. Not the name. The company. I've just decided to refer to it as "the E" from now on. Try it! It's fun! And to lend it street cred, an ex-WWF (but not E) employee friend of mine came up with it.

Of course, I'm certainly not saying that "WWE" isn't a dumb name.



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