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|  #1 Posted on 22.8.02 1044.18 | Click Here
August 22, 2002 -- A Sikh professional grappler is pile-driving wrestling impresario Vince McMahon's company with accusations of religious and ethnic harassment.
Gurjit Singh Hans - whose ring name is Tiger Ali Singh - claims his turban, which is sacred in the Sikh religion, was swiped in 1999 from a locker and desecrated by World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. workers. He says they stuffed it with cigarette butts and garbage, and called the Indian-descended wrestler a "taxi driver."
"Another turban belonging to Gurjit Singh Hans was torn into pieces backstage and placed on the head of a mentally disturbed person for the ‘amusement' of the WWE personnel present," Hans, 31, claims in a legal filing.
The Ontario, Canada, resident says the harassment coincided and escalated with WWE efforts to get out of its contract with him. The conduct included WWE demands that he wear his turban as a "gimmick" during matches, and make pre-match speeches that "referenced persons of Indian descent as likely being perceived as taxi driver and convenience-store operators," his filing says.
He also claims he suffered a career-ending injury last December when he was forced to perform in an outdoor tag-team match in pouring rain.
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|  #2 Posted on 22.8.02 1045.55 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Could he have waited a bit longer to file this suit?
I wonder if he is having money problems.
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| #3 Posted on 22.8.02 1050.55 | Was he realeased? I don't remember seeing that?
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| #4 Posted on 22.8.02 1055.13 | It sounds baseless- with about as much weight as the Sable lawsuit had.
I thought he didn't start wearing the turban in the ring until 2000, when he was inserted into the tag team with D-Lo.
And when'd the rain-soaked outside match happen?
He's just upset he sucks(ed).
Just like Sable.
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| #5 Posted on 22.8.02 1156.30 | The match in the rain was probably in Puerto Rico.
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| #6 Posted on 22.8.02 1352.16 | | He's just a bitter bastard. Vince's lawyers are gonna eat him up and chew him up. Tiger Ali Singh or whatever this jobbers name is going to become an either bigger joke than he already is. It's not because you're a Sikh, it's cause you suck. | Scorpio
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| #7 Posted on 22.8.02 1423.53 | He doesn't have to win his suit, he has to make the WWE look bad and threaten enough bad press to cause them to settle out of court. Remember, McMahon fears bad press like this, exposing the backstage workings of his baby.
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| #8 Posted on 22.8.02 1746.21 | What I want to know is, can we sue WWE for hiring Tiger Ali Singh in the first place?
Heck is for people that don't believe in Gosh. | BigDaddyLoco
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| #9 Posted on 22.8.02 2106.25 | I know that Singh sucked and he's of Arab deceant and we aren't suppossed to like those guys anymore, but to me some of the claims seem just. That is of course if they really took place. It sounds like some at the WWE turned a blind eye to some racist behavior. The 'Boys will be boys' behavior seems to be permitted by the WWE. Whether it be strip down and duct taped, being a bitch for a flight, or the Charles Robinson incident. Now the WWE is being accussed of harboring people who were racially and religiously harassing a man. I can't steal anyones turban at my work place, can you? If the WWE wants to be a profesional entertainment business they really need to start acting like one. Otherwise they'll always be a media and entertainment joke filled with sexual deviants, meatheads, and Bradshaw.
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| #10 Posted on 22.8.02 2139.58 | Guys,
You're forgetting the upside of all this:
He will no longer be on WWE television.
 | Net Hack Slasher
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| #11 Posted on 22.8.02 2148.26 | Wow maybe I'm still pissed off over Monday but I have zero sympathy for the WWE.
How many stories do we have to hear about assholes backstage acting like drunken frat boys harassing women, making life miserable for rookies and get defended by "boys will be boys". HEll these "hosses" add nothing to the company and have been in the organization forever. But feels the need to be bullies backstage and haze who's not in the "in crowd".
As for the angle. How could you NOT know it will end badly. The second they did it I said "This can be nothing but bad." But good ol' Vinnie Mac and his yes man couldn't see it.
Guess what WWE and Vince, welcome to the 21st century, where people sue people. You should know that better then anyone and being a public company should take precautions for stuff like this don't happen. But one positive I can't wait to see J.R on stand giving his "boys will be boys" defense. I've always wondered if that would hold up in court when we are talking about 30+ year old men.
edit in: it took a long time to write this post, I was distracted by something and got back to it without checking newer posts. Don't want it to seem like I copy BDL opinion even though I agree with it 100%
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| #12 Posted on 22.8.02 2321.46 | I believe every last bit of this. C'mon, it's wrestling! And I kinda liked Tiger. He was always booked to fail. Oh, yeah, he was no great shakes in the ring -- but plenty have been similarly bad and gotten bigger pushes.
¡Azúcar, flores y muchos colores! Estos fueron los ingredientes elegidos para crear a la niñita perfecta. Pero el profesor Utonio agrego accidentalmente otro ingrediente a la formula: ¡la sustancia X! Y así nacieron, ¡las Chicas Superpoderosas! ¡Con sus ultra súper poderes, Bombón, Burbuja y Bellota dedican su vida a combatir el crimen y las fuerzas del mal! | A-MOL
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| #13 Posted on 23.8.02 0223.10 | I remember before a Lo-Down/Acolytes match on Heat (shudder), Bradshaw and Faarooq did a little promo (funny line: "We are equal oppurtunity ass-kickers") in which they hailed a taxi. While I thought at the time, "Wow, that could be seen by some as a little off", Tiger was doing a big over the top sell in the ring. I doubt he would sell the line that much if it pissed him off.
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| #14 Posted on 23.8.02 0940.16 | Am i remembering this correctly, or am i on crack here:
But in the spring of '97, didn't the wwf go crazy with announcing that they signed him, making it look like they won this huge bidding war? I remember promos running on raw and their other tv shows- was he ever pegged to be any good?
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| #15 Posted on 23.8.02 1013.30 | OH yes. I remember Tiger Ali Singh's signing. Mainly because they did it live at a Skydome show (with many of the matches being taped then later airing on the first two-hour RAW). It went on at least 20 minutes, although it felt like years. In the ring, with "dignitaries", flowers and the whole enchilada.
To say it deflated the crowd would be an understatement. You're off on the date, it was January of 1997. Worst live "sports entertainment" segment I've ever had the misfortune of sitting through, and I went to a Vince Russo era Nitro.
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| #16 Posted on 23.8.02 1117.57 |
Originally posted by HomerJFong
A Sikh professional grappler is pile-driving wrestling impresario Vince McMahon's company with accusations of religious and ethnic harassment.
Gurjit Singh Hans - whose ring name is Tiger Ali Singh - claims his turban, which is sacred in the Sikh religion, was swiped in 1999 from a locker and desecrated by World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. workers. He says they stuffed it with cigarette butts and garbage, and called the Indian-descended wrestler a "taxi driver."
Let's be fair here - deep down inside, you know damn well at least this much is true. And am I the only one who gets a mental image of Bradshaw doing it?
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| #17 Posted on 23.8.02 1211.27 | When thinking of the big deal the WWF made of signing Tiger Ali Singh in 1997, remember that the year before they made a bigger deal of signing Mark Henry. But, Vince never makes mistakes and he is a genius.
Is it a better than even money shot that the person who destroyed the Turban was Bradshaw? Maybe, just maybe, morale would improve if that wonderful locker room influence was removed.
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| #18 Posted on 23.8.02 1717.04 | We all 'know' how sleazy the wrestling business is, and I find it hard to believe that people are actually standing up for the WWE on this.
I don't doubt that Singh was treated like rubbish backstage, although to be fair, there is no way that I could EVER be able to really comment on it (or any of us, though I know that negates the purpose of a forum such as this), as who really knows what is a WORK and what isn't.
Imagine this: what if a Russo-type writer has already been employed to work the smarts into thinking that guys like Bradshaw threaten to rape people up the arse in the shower, or Triple H is a brown-nosing roid monster who holds back promising midcarders?
Its like the X-Files... the truth is out there, but will we ever really know what it is? We still only know some of what certain people want us to know.
Anyway, the point of my post was to write about my two favourite 'Tiger memories', that you might find iteresting.
1. About the time that he first joined the WWF (around 1996), there is a big feature in the Raw magazine about a one-night tournament that he supposedly won on the Iraq leg of their tour (or somewhere), where he was meant to have beaten about three people in one evening, and shown the promise of a future world champion. However, there were no pictures of the tournament, in fact I don't even think that there were any pictures of him, and I would be almost 100% sure that it was never referred to on WWF TV.
I always thought that was quite strange...
2. At the WWF's first UK only ppv ('One Night Only', I think), he is wheeled out for a match against Al 'Leif Cassidy' Snow, which whilst being a fairly heatless, dull affair, is notable for Singh's pre-match 'promo', in which he claims that he is 'proud of his Indian heritage' (fair enough, but a bit iffy if you're trying to get across as a face in the UK..), 'the True Messiah' (a definite no-no for a face), and that 'all the children of the world should stay drug-free' (too little too late by that stage, and slightly hypocritical really, as he looked like he'd been hitting the old steroids for a bit to even get into the WWF). Even Vince McMahon, who is on commentary, seems a little bit unsure of how to react to the promo.
Actually, that reminds me of something else.. At this PPV, Vince is on play-by-play, with JR and Lawler, and at some point, Ross responds to one of Lawler's digs with 'You kill me', to which McMahon snaps, 'That's a pronoun!'. JR responds with, 'You kill me, KING', and the incident is never referred to again. Its interesting to notice stuff like that when you watch old tapes. Particularly when you consider the generally accepted axiom that 'some of the most successful characters are generally an extension of the person who is playing them', and Mr. McMahon went on to become one of the most successful characters in history by playing a complete arsehole.
Anyway, this is my first ever post, and I don't particularly want to be banned just yet, so I'll stop rambling for the time being, and wait and see if anyone actually responds. | WyldeWolf1
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| #19 Posted on 23.8.02 1931.48 | In these days of frivolous lawsuits, I'd have to see a tad more evidence from the plaintiff before I'd back him. The question I keep asking myself is, "Why wait so long to file?" That's usually not the sign of a legitimate lawsuit (though it doesn't mean he can't win).
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| #20 Posted on 24.8.02 2001.18 | If Tiger Ali Singh isnt lieing he should win the case beacause anyone that doesnt respect your religion or nationality should get taken to court. I mean imagine if you went to wrestle in Japan and a worker got your american flag and burned it. I would sue. I just hope he isnt sueing to get money.
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