You know what I just realized the other day? I really freakin' miss Arn Anderson. Yeah I know he's still around, but I mean in the ring, in his best days of the NWA and WCW.
What are your best Arn memories? Mine have to be late into his wrestling career, early-mid 90s or so, when he would hit the spinebuster and do that "It's over!" move with his hands (like Scott Hall does BEFORE hitting his finisher). It would get a HUGE pop on that from the old-time NWA/WCW fans. Did anyone here ever have the honored distinction of cheering the spinebuster live?
More Arn and Flair together on RAW, back to doing their heel-like cheating to get wins (while not being total heels) would be a GOOD thing.
(edited by DMC on 11.7.02 1514) "You! You're sumthin' you!" -Robert DeNiro, Analyze This
My favorite Double A moment was going into one of the War Games. Unfortunatly, my long and short term memory are pretty bad (for reasons I won't go into) but here goes. It was, of course, the Horsemen taking on the Sting led face team of the time. For some reason Sting had stuck around for the afternoon jobber show (Whatever that was called. See what I mean?) while that rest of his team had apparently left town for War Games. They played a tape of Arn cutting a promo along the lines of "Don't go out and leave your back door open". He and the rest of the Horsemen had supposedly left town as well. I am sure you can see where this is going. This led to a classic Horsemen beatdown of Sting with Arn telling the camera as they went off the air "I told you! I told you don't leave your backdoor open!" Like I said, I am fuzzy on all the details but that backdoor line has always stuck with me.
(edited by Jackson on 11.7.02 1648) Bubbles? Oh come on Sharon! I’m Ozzy Osbourne the Prince of Fucking Darkness. Evil, evil, more fucking evil not a boatload of fucking bubbles man.
I'm a huge Horsemen fan, since they would be all over my TV on the weekends... those promos were legendary! I can't recall my fave Arn moment of the past, but I was marking like a madman when he hit the spinebuster on Taker at Wrestlemania. That run-in was incredible!
I always enjoyed Arn's physical style, but it was his promo work that sticks out in my mind.
In February/March 2000, WCW had the "Team Package" angle rolling along, with Flair, Luger and Liz. Flair was booked in a Yapapi Indian Strap Match (Brother!) with Hogan for Un-Censored and Lugar gave Ric permission to offer Arn a spot with Team Package in an enforcer-type role. Arn didn't like how Flair was kissing Luger's ass and cut one of the best promos of all-time. It lasted almost ten minutes covering family, resposibility to his son and sport, duty, honor, history and the uncertainty of the future. It built with a slow burn, embarrassing and infuriating Flair. The promo reached it's apex when Arn called out Hogan to let him know he wouldn't be in Flair's corner. Ric went insane. Luger saw it coming and told Flair he could either "ride in Ferrari, or in a broken down pickup truck...you decide, I'm outta here!" A beatdown commenced on Arn later in the show because Ric said, "I'm done bein' daddy. I want to fly on the private jet with Luger, stay in the finest hotel suites, I want to ride with Team Package, etc."
Ric and Arn were incredible together and Luger was truly funny. This is probably one of the top 5 all-time promos and Arn's classic style added an unbelievable level of drama.
(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 12.7.02 0245) "Well, you can't involve friendship with business. It has to be one or the other. It's either business or friendship, or hit the bricks!"
--Life Lessons from "The Tao of Bobby the Brain Heenan" Uncensored 2000 preview
#1 and the best.... 1989 NWA. Gary Hart, Buzz Sawyer, Dragon Master & The Great Muta have confronted Ric Flair, . Arn MAKES his return (from the WWF) along with Ole, clear the members of J-Tex... Right afterwards, there's a promo..
"I've been around the world, I've been to several countries, but all I know is that I've got this incredible cramping in my forearm, and its cramping into this right here..." *gives Four Horsemen sign*
Other great moments include the two promos that led up to Flair -v- Anderson at Fall Brawl 1995
from The Main Event before the show:
"When I made that drive through the Smoky Mountains from Charlotte, NC over here, I had a lot of time to think...
As I was staring out that window, I was flooded with emotion, Excitement came over me because I finally get to show and test my skills against what I consider the greatest wrestler of all time. And as soon as that pairing came up, and the hair began to stand up on my arm, another emotion came over me and it hit me right in the solar plexus. That I'd lost the best friend I've ever had.
I know Ric Flair has not been focused due to a lot of things in his life. And due to that... He leaned on me. And when he leaned on me, it caused me to take my attention away from what I was doing. And in all the excitement of what's going on in WCW, I understand its easy to look away and look all around you for things that aren't happening for you.
But, Ric, understand this. In Asheville, NC, I want to look into your eyes and I want to know that, today, you gave me your best. I will give you my best. No matter who rolls out of that ring as a winner, I want to know, and I want you to know, that on this given day, we gave them one hell of a fight that everyone in the world is going to remember. I want to remember it, and I want you to remember it.
Today... I get your respect."
One was good enough. He followed up with another promo during the pay-per-view.
"Whether you hate me, whether you love me, whether you respect me, or you don't respect me... The one thing I've always given everybody is I've always called a spade a spade. I've either loved with passion or I've hated with a passion and with a vengeance.
And everybody has had a family member at one time or another that was messing up and you had to grab 'em and you had to shake 'em, because words no longer mattered.
Well, Ric Flair, I've been back here and my stomach has been in knots and my heart's been pounding out of my chest and I wouldn't be telling the truth if I didn't tell you I'm a nervous wreck. You understand you've been a brother to me when I didn't have one. Now I've got to go trade fists with you. But its something that's gotta happen because when I get up in the morning and look in the mirror, I've got to answer to me.
And if you don't stand up in this world... All a man can do is stand up and live by his word, right or wrong.
Tonight, I give Asheville, I give the world, and I give you ,Ric Flair, my word on this.
I'm gonna give you all I've got as a man.
And win, lose, or draw, trust me. I'm gonna respect myself in the morning, and you're gonna respect me."
Pure power in those words. No catchphrases. WWE promos could only dream to mean as much as an even-toned Arn promo.
Let us never forget Arn's retirement speech, when he gave The Enforcer position to Curt Hennig, only to have Hennig dick over the Horsemen. Even though I know that it was all part of a story, yadda yadda, part of me will always hate Curt Hennig for that.
And what about the return of the Horsemen in 1998? There was pure emotion during that segment, made very plain by the way tears were streaming down Ric Flair's face as he made his triumphant return to WCW.
“You bring what you got. The measuring stick just changed around here, pal. You're looking at it.”
--Kevin Nash, 6/10/96
Two-Time, Two-Time Randomly Selected Weiner of the Day, 5/27/02 and 7/3/02
How long were Arn and Ole in the WWF? I remember them going there sometime around the late 80s-early 90s (it couldn't have been earlier, could it?) but I don't recall how long they stayed, and how many times they held the tag titles.
"You! You're sumthin' you!" -Robert DeNiro, Analyze This
Originally posted by DMCHow long were Arn and Ole in the WWF? I remember them going there sometime around the late 80s-early 90s (it couldn't have been earlier, could it?) but I don't recall how long they stayed, and how many times they held the tag titles.
It was Arn and Tully Blanchard in the WWF as the Brainbusters, not Ole. They showed up in '88 or '89 and were gone by late '89. They had one title reign with a win over Demolition in a best of three falls match on Saturday Night's Main Event. Some people thought it was a controversial title change since the Brainbusters' first fall was by DQ.
I believe Tully was fired from the WWF (failed drug test, maybe?) and then Arn quit to go back to the NWA and reform the Horsemen (this was around the time they offered Sting a spot in the Horsemen, then kicked him out for accepting a title shot).
Arn and Larry Zybsko -- The Enforcers. All you ever wanted to know about classic heel tag team moves.
and fave AA promo -- when Luger replaced Ole in the Horsemen and Arn was answering speculation that he'd support Ole and quit the group. (I'll dig up the transcript if anyone really wants to read it.)
Thing is, Arn is the best example of those Southern wrestlers who never sounded like they were blandly reciting stiff lines from a prepared script. He brought both intelligence and passion to his work, and it showed.
i was lucky enough to be in the crowd screaming my head off and jumping up and down in markitude when i saw the most unpredicatble and unexpected spinebuster delivered on the undertaker at wrestlemania x8 this year. sure, i mean, it wasn't in arn's glory days, but DAMN did he hit it sweet. it was just a beautiful sight to behold. *wipes a tear from his eye.* the reaction was just deafening... it was amazing.
Here's my take on the guys who were released (special attention to Raven at the end). JC: He was a guy who was never really over, even as the top guy in ECW. The best he could have hoped for is jobber status in the WWE, and that's exactly what he got....