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#1 Posted on
The guy Hyatte talked to to get dirt on Scott Keith, he mentioned that there could never be a good movie based on professional wrestling. But, I think it could be done.

First of all, doing it in "kay-fabe" mode would be about as good as No Holds Barred, and getting away from documentaries, maybe if the plot involved an independent wrestler trying to make it into the big league of WWE, but only when he does to have his oppurtunities destroyed by backstage politics? Eh? Eh? How's that? Hell, a movie based on someone like Bret Hart, whose life was pretty much destroyed due to the wrestling business, that could be good.

I guess the only problem would be getting a movie studio with some kind of budget to go along with it...
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As an aspiring writer(hell, aren't we all?), I've had this idea for years, thought it could carry over well.

Someone training to be a pro wrestler. College-age or so. Sacrifices everything in his life(money, signifigant other, family) to achieve his dream. But he gets injured severely in training. Broken leg, broken back, something that takes months to recover from. he recovers, struggles through it all, and finally makes it to wrestle his first match. And with everything he goes through, typical of wrestling, or atypical of Hollywood, he loses. But then, so the audience would go home happy, his girlfriend or whatever sees his first match, and they, after not seeing each other for months, leave together.


Or.. the complete other way around.

A broken down old wrestlers way out of the business. Could be WWE-level, could be whatever indy will take him, but just how he's tired of it, and wants out.




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#3 Posted on
it was on mtv and called "tough enough" only it was dragged out over 9 1/2 hour episodes. then they did it again and are going to do it again.



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#4 Posted on
There'd better be; I'm writing a screenplay for one right now.






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Well, I don't think Paradise Alley is horrible. And it does have Terry Funk in it.



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Well, "Beyond the Mat" is a good watch.

Anyone else remember the 'cinematic' commercials the WWF put on a couple years back? Those got my gears turning, let me tell you.

Other than that, I agree with kazhayashi81 with one change: show that pro wrestling is fake. yep, blow the cover. We all know it, non-fans know it, so who is getting fooled, exactly? There's enough fo a compelling struggle with backstage politics and physical exertion by the competitors, that it doesn't matter if the fight is fixed.





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#7 Posted on
I don't know... I know this won't be a popular stance, but I liked Ready to Rumble. I mean, it wouldn't be on my Top 100 of all time, but I thought it was entertaining (and I LOVE Rose McGowan- couldn't they have brought her into WCW instead of Arquette?).

It seems to admit that wrestling is usually worked (though the fans in the movie think otherwise), but it centers around a promoter who wants a mega-face out of the company for personal reasons. The fans get on his case, so he orders the other wrestlers to shoot on him in the triple cage match (as well as outside the arena). It's far fetched, but not utterly implausible. Perry Saturn makes a standout performance.

Reminder: I saw Arquette win the title live. This was before I saw the movie. I hated Arquette as champ then, and seeing the movie didn't change my mind. I just want anyone to get confused and think I supported that decision.



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    Originally posted by Scorpio

    Well, "Beyond the Mat" is a good watch.

    Anyone else remember the 'cinematic' commercials the WWF put on a couple years back? Those got my gears turning, let me tell you.

    Other than that, I agree with kazhayashi81 with one change: show that pro wrestling is fake. yep, blow the cover. We all know it, non-fans know it, so who is getting fooled, exactly? There's enough fo a compelling struggle with backstage politics and physical exertion by the competitors, that it doesn't matter if the fight is fixed.



I wasn't trying to give the idea that it was real.. actually, in the idea I was kicking around, the character would know the finish, but the audience wouldn't.

I think movies that drive basic human emotion can have anything as the backdrop. Now, if wrestling is the main story arc, then there's a problem.




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#9 Posted on
Aw come on, people! Don't you remember BODY SLAM starring Roddy Piper and Dirk Benedict, with Captain Lou Albano? That movie should've won an Oscar!

There is no need to make a good wrestling movie...it's already been made.



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I've always thought somebody could make a great movie about the Von Erich family...
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I am not ashamed to admit that I loved Ready To Rumble. WCW, you are missed. Plus how could you not love the implausible way DDP loses that triple cage match? From the angle he is falling he'd land on his neck!
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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by HrdCoreJoe
    I am not ashamed to admit that I loved Ready To Rumble. WCW, you are missed. Plus how could you not love the implausible way DDP loses that triple cage match? From the angle he is falling he'd land on his neck!

GASP! That's when he hurt his neck!



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#13 Posted on
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    Originally posted by HBK 2002
    I've always thought somebody could make a great movie about the Von Erich family...


That would be very interesting as a dark movie. The whole story seems fascinating.

As for a feel good movie, I don't know. A fictious movie based upon a style of entertainment that is fictious to begin with feels like a parody of itself.



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#15 Posted on
Well, in terms of Feel Good Wrestling movies...

You could make a movie about Foley. For the most part, his story had a happy ending.

You could do something along the lines of "A League Of Their Own", and tell the story of wrestling in the 60's as documented by Bruno Sammartino. Too bad Lou Thesz is gone. A Bruno Sammartino movie would actually be pretty good.

I also think, as a comedy, tell the story of booking and writing in early 90's WCW. I'm thinking "Ed Wood" but with a wrestling twist.



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#16 Posted on
Aw, c'mon. What about MAD BULL? Alex Karras as a lovable oaf who plays a dreaded heel, loads of kayfabe-busting, a love story, the ultraface team of Mr. Clean and the White Knight, and a DERANGED ASSASSIN just to liven things up.





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#17 Posted on
I don't know if it could be done. I like the Mick Foley idea. You'd have to include backstage drama, because that's what made "Wrestling with Shadows" and "Beyond the Mat" so interesting. No one wants to see a flick that's in full kayfabe mode. (I'm not sure a straight wrestling movie would go over anyway, but that's another post.)



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#18 Posted on
Well it's nice to no someone liked No Holds Barred. Damn if Hogan didn't have me in tears when he was crying along his brutalized brother's bedside...And I loved the dialogue..."YOU JOCK-ASS!!" (which is jack ass with the word jock, a degrogatory term for a professional athelte, in place of jack....never mind) Plus that leading lady who played opposite Hogan, DAMN! And Zeus was totally bad-ass when he came into the WWF and like many blacks of the era was depicted as a unevolved monkey-man who couldn't speak english: "Hulk....Hogan! Beefcake....Baaaabbbaaar!"



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i would have to go with ready to rumble over no holds barred...ready to rumble was funny...and ive seen it like 10 times and its still funny...im actually asking for it on dvd for my b-day.....I WILL RULE YOU!!!!



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#20 Posted on
The best wrestling movie (and the only wrestling movie anyone outside of us fanboys would care about) is a biopic of Vince McMahon. Tell me you wouldn't love to see that flick? The rise and fall of the WWF told in epic fashion, sorta like People vs. Larry Flint, just not as coddling toward the subject as that movie was. It would never get made because there's no way Vince or his bastard children would allow an honest portrayal of the man. Of course, the only man who could play Vince is everyone's favorite psycho, Christopher Walken.



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