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4-3 to the AL in FIFTEEN.

Bang-bang play at home to end it, as the AL wins it. Thank god too, because they were out of pitchers, and Selig would have had to call it if the inning ended in a tie.



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But we could have relived this thread (The W)!

WOW baseball can sure be boring sometimes. I just hate that you knew that the NL wasn't never gonna win anyway. They needed Gary Carter!

(edited by CRZ on 16.7.08 0052)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
    Originally posted by kwik
    Thank god too, because they were out of pitchers, and Selig would have had to call it if the inning ended in a tie.


Yeah. As fun as the game was to watch, part of me lost enjoyment in the fact that I was paranoid in having 2002 happen all over again. Still, some great plays at the plate made this one of the better A.S. games to watch in years.
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The question you've got to ask yourself: would Pat Burrell have made a better throw?



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I'm not a Yankee fan in any way, shape, or form. However, breaking for commercial during that great spot where Rivera was coming in was unforgivable. Even for FOX.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.79
    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    I'm not a Yankee fan in any way, shape, or form. However, breaking for commercial during that great spot where Rivera was coming in was unforgivable. Even for FOX.


I went to bed early and taped the ending. Just to see Mariano come in. And they didn't show it? WTF?

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Too bad Papelbon didn't actually close like he said he should have....the game would have been over earlier.
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Game should've been over in the 11th. Tejada did an incredible job hoodwinking that umpire into believing he actually tagged Kinsler on that stolen base. Right call there meant Young would've won the game four innings earlier.

Still, tremendous game.



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    Tejada did an incredible job hoodwinking that umpire into believing


I dunno about you, but I loved the game appeared to turn on Miguel Tejada deceiving someone. That's his move!



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    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Too bad Papelbon didn't actually close like he said he should have....the game would have been over earlier.


Papelbon - Strikeout, hit, pop-out, strikeout.
Navarro - Throwing error leading to the run.

You're blaming the wrong guy chief.




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Game should've been over in the 11th. Tejada did an incredible job hoodwinking that umpire into believing he actually tagged Kinsler on that stolen base. Right call there meant Young would've won the game four innings earlier.

    Still, tremendous game.


On top of that, in that same inning, Navarro was TOTALLY under that tag at home plate, but the umpire looked to be out of position and called him out. Game should have ended right there. Selig should be thanking whatever deity he prayed to, because had that game ended in a tie with those two blown calls, he would have been chased out of Yankees Stadium with torches.

(edited by It's False on 16.7.08 1353)



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    Originally posted by It's False
      Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Game should've been over in the 11th. Tejada did an incredible job hoodwinking that umpire into believing he actually tagged Kinsler on that stolen base. Right call there meant Young would've won the game four innings earlier.

      Still, tremendous game.


    On top of that, in that same inning, Navarro was TOTALLY under that tag at home plate, but the umpire looked to be out of position and called him out. Game should have ended right there. Selig should be thanking whatever deity he prayed to, because had that game ended in a tie with those two blown calls, he would have been chased out of Yankees Stadium with torches.

    (edited by It's False on 16.7.08 1353)


1 - The tag was first made on the lower leg, so Navarro was dead at the plate.

2 - I don't recall seeing Bud Selig in either dugout yanking players out of the game left and right without keeping a starting pitcher in reserve just in case the game went into extra innings. Why, exactly, is that his fault?
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    2 - I don't recall seeing Bud Selig in either dugout yanking players out of the game left and right without keeping a starting pitcher in reserve just in case the game went into extra innings. Why, exactly, is that his fault?


Exactly...though it is unclear how responsible Selig is for the current state of Little League-esque All-Star games where everyone's guaranteed some PT. MLB wants it both ways...they want it to "count" but the managers still manage the game like it's a rec league softball game. I don't care which direction they choose, but they need to pick one. If it truly counts, Dioner Navarro wouldn't get 2.5 times more plate appearances than Joe Mauer (who would have scored standing up in the 11th), Albert Pujols wouldn't be benched...ever, and there'd be no using 5 starters in the first 6 IP while crossing your fingers it doesn't go to extras.

Seriously, we were one inning away from either another tie happening, or position players coming in to pitch...in the ALL-STAR GAME.

(edited by Joseph Ryder on 16.7.08 1638)


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    Seriously, we were one inning away from either another tie happening, or position players coming in to pitch...in the ALL-STAR GAME.


Francona did say he talked to MLB officials during extra innings (seemingly multiple times.) I think both managers were specifically told Selig would not was not willing to let this game end in a tie, regardless of who was pitching.



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One of these days the NL manager needs to play to win and take the AL completely by surprise. Imagine if the AL had the players they had at the end of the game while the NL still had Chipper/Pujols/Berkman/Holliday in a row. I was disappointed that Hurdle didn't do this. He even said before the game that Pujols would bat 6 times if they needed him to. I don't mind that Wright took his place but why is Wright at DH while Christian Guzman is at third?

Also, if pitchers that pitch on Sunday are going to be held back and possibly not pitch then they need to be taken off the team and replaced by somebody else. Even with all the pitchers used they could've gone another 2 or 3 innings if Kazmir and Webb weren't limited because of pitching on Sunday.



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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=As3vmsHWl_5r6EifDUCoAnY5nYcB?slug=ap-all-stars&prov=ap&type=lgns

They had apparently had position players to pitch in the works.


Fox did hang around a bit for Rivera's entrance... one nice thing was that they shut up and just let the TV audience listen to the crowd cheering. Mo was almost to the infield when they cut away for commercial. And that strikeout/throwout was beautiful. The crowd going nuts for Mo made that game for me.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.98
Wow....did this really come up on the sign during the game? That's pretty harsh.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
I'm guessing that they meant "franchise record FOR A THIRD BASEMAN"....



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
    Originally posted by TwisterF5
    I'm guessing that they meant "franchise record FOR A THIRD BASEMAN"....


I ewould hope so, cause that's not only a diss to Sosa, but to Ryan Sandberg, Andre Dawson, Erine Banks, and maybe a couple of others.
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