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The Goon
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Since: 2.1.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.90
Note: I am a casual comic buyer, collected years ago, and I jump in from time to time.
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I have NO idea what was going on in this book. Cavemen and Metron? John Jonzz just casually murdered? Evil red-eyed children? Dr. Light looking for Viagra from Mirror Master so he can bang Giganta? (seriously)

Someone please tell me that there's background to set up this story (other than DC Universe #0, as I picked that up as well).
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#2 Posted on
    Originally posted by The Goon
    Note: I am a casual comic buyer, collected years ago, and I jump in from time to time.


Unfortunately, when it comes to company-wide events for the past four years, DC does not believe you exist.

You're expected to have read half the DC comics that came out in 2007 before reading this. In turn, DC Universe #0 doesn't do so much to set up this story as to set up half the DC comics that come out in the rest of 2008.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Justice League of America #21, released last week, is essentially the intro to the Libra/Martian Manhunter plot (you'll find out the back story for the man with the cell phone.)

The Orion plot is tricker, because he gets death scenes in Countdown #2 and Death of the New Gods #8?, and the plots don't quite match up with each other or the plot here. (Superman's seen Orion die - twice, I think - so he probably shouldn't be surprised when someone finds the body.)

It's probably just better to know the general story - "all the Fourth World characters are being rebooted with new Fifth World looks, but the same personalities." Orion's the last of the Fourth World when he passes (unless he passes something else on.) It's an easy way of covering everyone else at the same time.

If you're looking for panel by panel explanations, I suggest checking out Douglas Wolk's breakdown of the series. Every detail is broken down in detail.



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Since: 20.6.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.12
It's SPOILER-IFIC!

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Ok, I caught up today, since comic shipments were delayed a day here because of Memorial Day (known to The Goon and his fellow Canadians as "Monday").

I cry major foul at the death of Martian Manhunter. It's not even so much that they killed him, but it was so unceremonious for a character that's literally been such a staple for more than 40 years. I realize it's a comic book death, though, so he'll be back soon enough. They couldn't keep Oliver Queen dead for more than a few years, so I don't think this sticks at all. Hell, I wouldn't doubt that he'll come back before the end of the series.

Orion was supposedly the last of the New Gods, having killed Darkseid in Countdown, but followers of Grant Morrison's "Seven Soldiers" series (sorry, casual fans) know that once the New Gods die, they'll be reincarnated in another form. And thus we go from Darkseid to "Dark Side", who looks like Michael Clarke Duncan. I'm in the minority, but I love Dark Side and his human incarnation and am eager to see where it goes.

Libra's statement about not being human is a dead giveaway. He's SO a rogue Monitor.




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Since: 28.6.04
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.39
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    The Orion plot is tricker, because he gets death scenes in Countdown #2 and Death of the New Gods #8?, and the plots don't quite match up with each other or the plot here. (Superman's seen Orion die - twice, I think - so he probably shouldn't be surprised when someone finds the body.)


Okay, that really bugged me. Because not only is it played off like he wasn't there to see Orion die, but the comments Superman makes to the rest of the League and his reactions are done as if he isn't aware that all the New Gods are dead. But...HE WAS THERE! He was right freaking there, in the thick of it. He knows they died. I mean geez, I was no fan of "Death of the New Gods", but let's at least go more than a couple months before we pretend it all never happened.

Agreed with "It's False" on liking the reincarnation aspect of the Fifth World. Also, Libra being a rogue Monitor did cross my mind, and I think it's likely. However, he could also just be referring to the fact that in his last appearance prior to Crisis he had been spread across the cosmos, in essence "ascending" to another plane/Godhood.

As for this issue itself, I really didn't hate it as much as other folks on the various message boards I've skimmed. I think the most glaring problem is that it almost seems as if there's pages missing from this story - last panel of a page Libra is talking to the Secret Society, and then the first panel of the very next page they've captured Martian Manhunter. I really feel like the problems with rough jumps and cuts could've been solved by allowing Morrisson ten more pages an issue to tell the story. And why not? It's a big Event book, and enough people are going to buy it to warrant the expense.




The black dude on the last page is Barry Allen. Right? Because he was always running late?

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall

    The black dude on the last page is Barry Allen. Right? Because he was always running late?



I'm pretty sure that was the exiled Monitor from a few pages before.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.15
I thought it was the Tattooed Man (seen a few pages earlier) who awoke to find his tattoos gone, but http://finalcrisisannotations.blogspot.com/ also seems to think it's the Monitor as well.

I skipped Morrisson's "Seven Soldiers" when it came out and have since picked up 3 of the 4 trades when they went on sale at Books-A-Million last year, but now I guess I'm going to hunt down the one I'm missing and read that to get more of a feel for these "new" New Gods.

On a whole, I'm intrigued by the series and am excited again for where DC is going after losing a lot of my enthusiasm the more "Countdown" dragged (and I mean dragged) on.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75

most people (myself included) thought Mr Miracle was the worst of the Seven Soldiers books. Now, it's importance will make people want to read it.



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