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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.80
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I havenīt even seen the PPV yet, but would love to read some feedback here! So - How was it? Was Angle/Joe 2 better than the first one?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.10
Joe vs. Angle II was better than the first one. It was longer, so that should make some people happy (and I'm one of them). And it was well plotted and well-executed. The main dampener was that there was a ref bump towards the end and Angle missed Joe with a chair, which bounced off the top rope and hit him in the face, but it wasn't the chair that beat Angle. The back and forth build towards the finish revolved entirely around Joe fighting off the Ankle Lock this time and countering it into the rear naked choke. There were some breathtaking reversals. And Joe did the nigh-impossible: he survived the Ankle Lock when Angle slapped on the leg grapevine and made it to the ropes. Many of Joe's big moves didn't happen: He didn't hit the musclebuster, which Angle countered out of, nor did he hit his fast powerslam or shining wizard in the corner. Angle controlled the pace of the match, which was a reversal of last month's match when Joe controlled it. Joe was fighting from underneath for most of it, but it was a great, satisfying match. And yet, it still didn't feel like a Match of the Year.

The Sting vs. Abyss vs. Christian triple threat was a letdown with a badly botched finish: Abyss ended up hitting Sting with a weak Black Hole Slam that missed the thumbtacks James Mitchell introduced into the match. Abyss retained the title but none of the three men looked good during the match. It was too chaotic.

AJ Styles vs. Rhino was a really good intense brawl that started backstage and spilled all around the fans and into the ring. Styles took some cringe worthy bumps, like being backdropped over the fan railing onto the entrance ramp. Out of the ring fighting, chaos, violence, seemingly-real emotion and hatred: all things sorely lacking from December to Dismember.

LAX kicked ass. Konnan even said it was a historic occasion when the American team failed to win a Flag Match. Homicide took a nasty beer bottle bump on the back of his head that gushed blood. The storyline was Chris Harris caught some glass shards in his eye when Storm broke the bottle on Homicide's head, allowing Hernandez to capture the flag. AMW is gonna end up breaking up and they might as well since they're no match for LAX.

Christopher Daniels vs. Chris Sabin was pretty good, straightforward wrestling. Jerry Lynn as special ref didn't factor in until after the match ended, when he refused to give Daniels his belt or raise his hand, choosing instead to yell at Sabin to shake Daniels' hand. Daniels got pissed, yelled at Lynn, Lynn got pissed and stormed out of the ring. It was weird.

The PCS was a five way elimination match notable for good wrestling and Austin Starr and Alex Shelley's storyline rivalry where they kept screwing each other over and complaining to Kevin Nash. The PCS is going to be a series of matches between the five going on a point system so the points were doled out in order of elimination: Shelly -1, Lethal -2, Dutt - 3, Starr - 4, Senshi, the winner, 5. Nash's commentary was hilarious.

And that's the stuff I liked, which is most of the show. The less I think about the Eric Young vs. Miss Brooks bikini contest and VKM's DX parody skit and their Million Dollar Challenge to fight DX, the happier I'll be.

A HELL OF A LOT better than both Genesis and December to Dismember. Throw Survivor Series and Cyber Sunday in there too as far as I'm concerned.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The less I think about the Eric Young vs. Miss Brooks bikini contest and VKM's DX parody skit and their Million Dollar Challenge to fight DX, the happier I'll be.


You know, I find the Million Dollar Challenge kind of interesting. I know it's just a story line thing, but what if Vince really DID accept the money for the two teams to have a match. Vince ain't stupid, that's a decent amount of cash to not ignore.

And SERIOUSLY... what's wrong with Eric Young in bikini briefs? You gotta make what few females there are in the audience happy and he's not completely ugly for a guy on anything like that...
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Vince ain't stupid, that's a decent amount of cash to not ignore.


Vince has somewhere around a billion dollars. It's not worth a million dollars to him to get in a fight with the James Gang.


    what's wrong with Eric Young in bikini briefs?


Neither that skit or the VKM skit is actually leading to matches that'd be worth the build (so far and in the future).



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.83

    Originally posted by Cerebus
    You know, I find the Million Dollar Challenge kind of interesting. I know it's just a story line thing, but what if Vince really DID accept the money for the two teams to have a match. Vince ain't stupid, that's a decent amount of cash to not ignore.
As cubsfan alredy pointed out, Vince has plenty of reasons not to answer the challenge. It's really not in his best interest to do so. But I still find the challenge interesting, but only because I have to assume that TNA knows they're not going to get a response from him either. Given that, I think Voodoo Kin Mafia's next move hinges on the fact that neither Vince nor DX responds, and I'm curious to see what they have planned next.

SIDE NOTE: I didnt watch the PPV, so I went to pwinsider.com for the first time in several months to read their PPV recap about the VKM promo(s). I would just like to point out that it took me 25 minutes to quickly skim through the first 10 pages of their recap to get to the VKM stuff on page 10. It didnt take that long because I read that slow, but because of all the popups slowing my computer down to a crawl. UGH.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01

I say give VKM the duo of Finlay & Regal ...

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.90
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      You know, I find the Million Dollar Challenge kind of interesting. I know it's just a story line thing, but what if Vince really DID accept the money for the two teams to have a match. Vince ain't stupid, that's a decent amount of cash to not ignore.
    As cubsfan alredy pointed out, Vince has plenty of reasons not to answer the challenge. It's really not in his best interest to do so. But I still find the challenge interesting, but only because I have to assume that TNA knows they're not going to get a response from him either. Given that, I think Voodoo Kin Mafia's next move hinges on the fact that neither Vince nor DX responds, and I'm curious to see what they have planned next.

    SIDE NOTE: I didnt watch the PPV, so I went to pwinsider.com for the first time in several months to read their PPV recap about the VKM promo(s). I would just like to point out that it took me 25 minutes to quickly skim through the first 10 pages of their recap to get to the VKM stuff on page 10. It didnt take that long because I read that slow, but because of all the popups slowing my computer down to a crawl. UGH.

Which is why I go to Gerweck.net. No popups.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      Vince ain't stupid, that's a decent amount of cash to not ignore.


    Vince has somewhere around a billion dollars. It's not worth a million dollars to him to get in a fight with the James Gang.


While I agree that nothing is going to happen, I don't believe it is because of the paltriness of the sum. The problem is that the value of the money is exceeded by the potential boost to TNA's business.

From May to October 2006, WWE's net income was $21 million. If this was a serious offer from an equally popular competitor (where there doesn't seem to be much potential to increase the competitors business), who wouldn't increase their net income by 5% by doing something so simple?

Also I know I'm splitting hairs here, but Vince himself is not worth a billion dollars. There are about 70 million shares of WWE stock, which are currently selling for $17.00 per share on the NYSE. That's a value of $1.2 billion for the entire company. When Vince's shares were put in an irrevocable trust in July of 2004, he had 14 million shares. That puts his share of the company at $240 million.

Other interesting notes: Kevin Dunn has about 90,000 shares, Shane has 23,000 shares, Johnny Ace has about 41,000 shares. As of January 2005, Jim Ross had 20,000 shares.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.68
Not to sound crass, but one thing begs to be asked concerning the Million Dollar Challenge:

Does TNA even have that kind of money? I thought they were barely getting by.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.70
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    I went to pwinsider.com [...] it took me 25 minutes to quickly skim through the first 10 pages of their recap [...] It didnt take that long because I read that slow, but because of all the popups slowing my computer down to a crawl.
pwinsider.com has actually been banned by my work's web filter. Not because of content (the filter allows access to wrestlingobserver.com, f4wonline.com, slashwrestling.com, the-w.com, and many other wrestling-related sites), but because of reports of "malware." I don't know what specific kind of malware the site will possibly try to infest your computer with, but I figure there's no benefit to finding out.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
I didn't get around to seeing the PPV until just now, and it was on tape, so I FFWDed past the Bikini challange and all VKM stuff.

I thought it was a really solid PPV. Some of the matches were marred by endings that were anti-climactic or goofy -- Joe vs. Angle being the prime example. I just don't see what the ref bump thing was supposed to accomplish, honestly, and the "hit-the-ropes-with-the-chair-and-the-chair-bounces-back-into-my-face" spot always comes off as pretty comedic to me, which is maybe not what they were going for. Otherwise, it was a super good match.

Styles vs. Rhino was insane and almost hard to watch -- some of those bumps that AJ took were crazy, especially the back body drop over the railing and onto the ramp. LAX vs. AMW was pretty good -- I didn't love it.

Sabin vs. Daniels was nice -- again, with an anticlimactic finish. PCS match was good, too, and it got a really surprising amount of time.

Sting vs. Abyss vs. Christian was serviceable -- well, even a little better. Was Sting really supposed to go into the tacks again this month? 'Cause if I was Sting, I might demur.

So, yeah, overall -- all the matches were above average-to-really good. It's been a while since I could say that about a PPV.

EDIT! I forgot about the baseball guys -- I pretty much skipped that, too, but if it's leading up to a match between Lance Hoyt and Dale Torborg -- WELL! That's pretty exciting!

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(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 12.12.06 0033)


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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
    Originally posted by Oliver
    Not to sound crass, but one thing begs to be asked concerning the Million Dollar Challenge:

    Does TNA even have that kind of money? I thought they were barely getting by.


Panda Energy is a huge corporation and Dixie Carter and her family is probably worth more than the McMahons. It doesn't matter anyway, because they know that Vince isn't going to acknowlege it or accept it.



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