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The Goon
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Since: 2.1.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
Article

Articles report 7000+ dead. That number is sure to climb into the tens of thousands.

This is the largest-recorded magnitude of an earthquake in 40 years.
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On the surface, this doesn't appear to be the nicest thing to say: SE Asia was lucky the 8.9 was in the ocean and caused the tsunami. If the 8.9 would have occurred in India, the fatality count probably would have to start in the 7 figures.
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Since: 2.1.02
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
The update is now 25000 dead and climbing. This is unbelievable.

Pictures

If you want to help, you can donate to the American Red Cross.

Once the full extent of the death toll is known, this may go down as the worst natural disaster of our lifetime.

edit: Here's the Canadian Red Cross as well.

(edited by The Goon on 27.12.04 0916)
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Since: 11.7.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    On the surface, this doesn't appear to be the nicest thing to say: SE Asia was lucky the 8.9 was in the ocean and caused the tsunami. If the 8.9 would have occurred in India, the fatality count probably would have to start in the 7 figures.
All true. If it had occured on land, it would've devestated the land area AND caused the tsunami, so Asia did catch a break, even though this is one of the more devestating natural disasters of modern times.
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Since: 9.12.01
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Amazon has a 100% donation to the Red cross through their Honor system. When I went 30 minutes ago there were 9999 donations - after I did mine it was at 1036. There are 10472 right now.

http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PX3BEL97U9A4I/103-1522108-9420661

Instead of everyone fighting in the UN thread, I'd rather see us make a difference. Lise and I have donated $25. It's not a lot, but a little from a lot of people is going to help out.

If you already have an Amazon.com account, donating is as easy as using their one click purchasing system. We are not getting an affiliate referral for this - 100% of your donation goes to tsunami relief.


//edit: or use the link from the index

(edited by Guru Zim on 28.12.04 2145)


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Since: 9.12.01
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Total Collected:
$537,101.85
# of Payments:
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Since: 2.1.02
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
I donated online through the Canadian Red Cross. It looks like donations everywhere are picking up steam.

Last night, I had a wave of horror sweep over me as I realized a co-worker buddy was travelling through Thailand. I hope I get some good news about him when I'm back in the office tomorrow.
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Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
As of this second:

Total Collected:
$1,031,990.00
# of Payments:
20398



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Since: 17.11.03
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I put $25 in the mail on Monday to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief. Plus I raised another $50 on top of that via the people in my office so far with the end of my mini-drive being tomorrow where I hope it's somewhere in the $75 range.

(edited by Blanket Jackson on 29.12.04 1105)


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I'm in. I figure if we all do a little, it can add up fast.

Current totals:


Total Collected: $1,789,253.86
# of Payments: 32451


Nice job, people, wherever you live.




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Since: 9.12.01
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
It seems to have levelled off a bit, but the numbers are still amazing to me.

Total Collected:
$3,754,756.37
# of Payments:
63751





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Since: 6.11.03
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I'd like to make a recommendation for the cynics out there *looks in mirror* who are concerned that monies donated will wind up in the hands of professional fundraisers rather than the victims:

Hit thrift stores/consignment stores. Buy as many blankets and clothes as you can fit in your car. I'm pretty sure that every church in America has something set up to deliver supplies to areas that need them, and it's a lot more difficult for someone to shove a quilt into their own wallet than a $20.

Drudge posted a claim that Indonesia alone, due to the islands that have been completely wiped out, could have as many as 400,000 dead. Good God.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
    Buy as many blankets and clothes as you can fit in your car. I'm pretty sure that every church in America has something set up to deliver supplies to areas that need them, and it's a lot more difficult for someone to shove a quilt into their own wallet than a $20


Well they need clean water and food now, not blankets coming over on a ship in four months.

The red cross/crescent/whatever can use the monies to buy the supplies NOW rather than wait for the freighters to finally arrive.




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That is not TOTALLY true. Either way, they are going to have to ship the items there. The money doesn't make the food magically appear there, and it isn't exactly going to be easy to go to a local shop down there and buy a blanket.

All of these supplies are being airlifted in by not only the military, but through various charity organizations. I don't know if any of them take actual materials, but if they do, it isn't going to take months to get there.

As to money - I don't see that big an issue with administrative costs. I am sure the Red Cross is getting those blankets at cost, or at least at a hefty bulk discount. Even with some minor overhead, your dollar is going to go WAY farther if they spend it and not you at the local Wal Mart (who will also make a profit off your donation).

I'd rather it go to legit overhead costs than to line someone's pocket anyday...



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Since: 7.1.02
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
Apparently some experts are fearing that a lot of this outpouring of support will be a wasted effort:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=541&ncid=2337&e=11&u=/ap/20041231/ap_on_he_me/tsunami_health_dangers

One reason I thought I would post this is that this article specifically mentions excess clothing and blankets as perhaps a waste.

Another interesting aspect though is the thought that perhaps the risk of disease is exaggerated, since disease fears has pretty much been the big theme, at least in the media.

Anyway, the positive about money is that it can be converted into anything, so if there is lack of food, you buy food, if it's water, you buy water. On the other hand, it's harder to convert actual goods into different actual goods. So it's probably best to let those helping out to have the flexibility to get the people what they actually need, and that would be best done with money.





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Just as a note, giving iS important. Select groups that have low overhead, if you're worried about graft. Select groups that have a huge presence in the area. We selected world vision, ( https://www.kintera.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKVLbMVIwG&b=277370&lid=tsunami_donate&lpos=main1text) primarily because we have a world vision daughter in India, although, thankfully, much further north.



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Since: 24.7.02

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
As it is 12/31 still, remember, this could be used as a last second tax deduction for the 2004 tax season. And, for those looking to double dip, give on 12/31 for the 2004 tax season, give on 1/1 for the 2005 tax season.
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The Amazon numbers:

Total Collected:
US $9,469,145.00
# of Payments:
125050

Pretty darn amazing. I just hope it keeps growing and growing.

I'm also very happy to see the corporations I dislike so much making a huge difference here. This is so not a time for groups to bicker at each other.



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Since: 9.12.01
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
Although we've taken this off of the front page, they are still collecting.

As of this moment in time:

Total Collected:
US $14,785,264.02
# of Payments:
182116



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Since: 17.11.02

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.34
While it sucks that it takes a tragedy like this to get people to give to charities, it's nice to read about people doing what they can to help out those in need...

Sandra Bullock gave $1,000,000 and so did Leo Dicaprio. Steven Spielberg donated $1,500,000. Michael Dell has donated $3,000,000. The Baltimore Ravens collected and donated over $75,000. Ozzy Osborne donated about $200,000. Maria Sharapova not only donated $10,000 on her own, but her and Venus Williams auctioned off tennis rackets for the relief fund. Jay Leno is auctioning off a motorcycle autographed by Donald Trump and Matt LeBlanc. Lincoln Park donated $100,000. And Willie Nelson, U2, Coldplay, Radiohead, Elton John and a bunch of other music groups and artist are planning on having concerts and donating the procedes.

Not bad...



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