On the surface, this doesn't appear to be the nicest thing to say: SE Asia was lucky the 8.9 was in the ocean and caused the tsunami. If the 8.9 would have occurred in India, the fatality count probably would have to start in the 7 figures.
Originally posted by redsoxnationOn the surface, this doesn't appear to be the nicest thing to say: SE Asia was lucky the 8.9 was in the ocean and caused the tsunami. If the 8.9 would have occurred in India, the fatality count probably would have to start in the 7 figures.
All true. If it had occured on land, it would've devestated the land area AND caused the tsunami, so Asia did catch a break, even though this is one of the more devestating natural disasters of modern times.
Instead of everyone fighting in the UN thread, I'd rather see us make a difference. Lise and I have donated $25. It's not a lot, but a little from a lot of people is going to help out.
If you already have an Amazon.com account, donating is as easy as using their one click purchasing system. We are not getting an affiliate referral for this - 100% of your donation goes to tsunami relief.
//edit: or use the link from the index
(edited by Guru Zim on 28.12.04 2145) Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
I put $25 in the mail on Monday to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief. Plus I raised another $50 on top of that via the people in my office so far with the end of my mini-drive being tomorrow where I hope it's somewhere in the $75 range.
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I'd like to make a recommendation for the cynics out there *looks in mirror* who are concerned that monies donated will wind up in the hands of professional fundraisers rather than the victims:
Hit thrift stores/consignment stores. Buy as many blankets and clothes as you can fit in your car. I'm pretty sure that every church in America has something set up to deliver supplies to areas that need them, and it's a lot more difficult for someone to shove a quilt into their own wallet than a $20.
Drudge posted a claim that Indonesia alone, due to the islands that have been completely wiped out, could have as many as 400,000 dead. Good God.
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Originally posted by Barbwire Mike Buy as many blankets and clothes as you can fit in your car. I'm pretty sure that every church in America has something set up to deliver supplies to areas that need them, and it's a lot more difficult for someone to shove a quilt into their own wallet than a $20
Well they need clean water and food now, not blankets coming over on a ship in four months.
The red cross/crescent/whatever can use the monies to buy the supplies NOW rather than wait for the freighters to finally arrive.
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That is not TOTALLY true. Either way, they are going to have to ship the items there. The money doesn't make the food magically appear there, and it isn't exactly going to be easy to go to a local shop down there and buy a blanket.
All of these supplies are being airlifted in by not only the military, but through various charity organizations. I don't know if any of them take actual materials, but if they do, it isn't going to take months to get there.
As to money - I don't see that big an issue with administrative costs. I am sure the Red Cross is getting those blankets at cost, or at least at a hefty bulk discount. Even with some minor overhead, your dollar is going to go WAY farther if they spend it and not you at the local Wal Mart (who will also make a profit off your donation).
I'd rather it go to legit overhead costs than to line someone's pocket anyday...
One reason I thought I would post this is that this article specifically mentions excess clothing and blankets as perhaps a waste.
Another interesting aspect though is the thought that perhaps the risk of disease is exaggerated, since disease fears has pretty much been the big theme, at least in the media.
Anyway, the positive about money is that it can be converted into anything, so if there is lack of food, you buy food, if it's water, you buy water. On the other hand, it's harder to convert actual goods into different actual goods. So it's probably best to let those helping out to have the flexibility to get the people what they actually need, and that would be best done with money.
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As it is 12/31 still, remember, this could be used as a last second tax deduction for the 2004 tax season. And, for those looking to double dip, give on 12/31 for the 2004 tax season, give on 1/1 for the 2005 tax season.
While it sucks that it takes a tragedy like this to get people to give to charities, it's nice to read about people doing what they can to help out those in need...
Sandra Bullock gave $1,000,000 and so did Leo Dicaprio. Steven Spielberg donated $1,500,000. Michael Dell has donated $3,000,000. The Baltimore Ravens collected and donated over $75,000. Ozzy Osborne donated about $200,000. Maria Sharapova not only donated $10,000 on her own, but her and Venus Williams auctioned off tennis rackets for the relief fund. Jay Leno is auctioning off a motorcycle autographed by Donald Trump and Matt LeBlanc. Lincoln Park donated $100,000. And Willie Nelson, U2, Coldplay, Radiohead, Elton John and a bunch of other music groups and artist are planning on having concerts and donating the procedes.
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Ok, so Arnold met with them in May of 2001. Enron didn't declare bankruptcy until December of 2001. I'm not sure I get how this is a credible article at all. edit: Wasn't there, you know, an election between then and now?