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Credit toomiguci over at the Wrestlecrap forums (cheap pop!)

Velocity:
Nunzio beats Akio
Rico & Haas beat the Bashams
Dupree beat Holly
Stamboli beat some jobber

SD!
Kidman and London are supposed to have a match, but Kidman walks out, so Booker T walks out and wins an impromptu match with London. Later on, Teddy Long makes London-Kidman for No Mercy, and if Kidman walks out then he's fired

Heidenreich does the poem thing again, this time with Vince. I'm guessing that John doesn't get to anal rape the boss.

Spike beats Rey to retain the Cruiserweight title thanks to interference from Suzuki and Dupree (set up earlier by Kenzo telling Rey to speak English since they're in America). RVD/Rey-Suzuki/Dupree is made for No Mercy

Undertaker beats Gangrel and Viscera VIA tombstone to Gangrel. Gangrel uses his old music, and the heels were introduced as "The Ministry."

A School Girl Fight... I'm not even going to go into detail, besides the fact that it's supposed to be Torrie vs. Dawn in schoolgirl outfits, and Mae and Moolah get involved. Imagine the rest.

Kurt Angle and Luther Reigns beat Eddie and Big Show in the main event via... no joke... Angle shooting Show with a tranquilizer gun. Somehow, Mark Jindrak got involved as well, and Show got his hair shaved up.

Steph, Hogan, Foley, and Austin all did their pretaped vignettes; VINCE~~ was the only one in attendance.
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Finally, they're bringing up Jindrak from Velocity.

What was said during those video segments with Hogan and Austin?

I'm interested in seeing what Show looks like, after his sabbatical.

Kidman vs. London looks really good, I'm stoked.



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    Originally posted by SOK
    What was said during those video segments with Hogan and Austin?


Austin talked about going to Iraq and singing with Kurt Angle, and Hogan talked about winning the tag titles with Edge.
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How's about a more detailed version, from me? :-)

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SmackDown / Velocity – Phoenix – 9/21/04

Dark Matches / Velocity Taping

1) Carlito Carribean Cool vs. Shannon Moore: I’ve seen Carlito work a dark match in Phoenix before – he’s good. He’s got a really strong presence & really seems to enjoy playing an arrogant ass. Very nice “flippy stuff” by Shannon. Gave the win to Carlito. Fun match.

Josh & DeMott make their (separate) entrances.

2) Nunzio w/ Stamboli vs. Aikio: Nunzio was very good here; Aikio wasn’t’ bad; & Stamboli was all kinds of cute, bouncing every time Nunzio would do good & working the crowd. Stamboli interferes with Aikio’s attempt to cheat with feet on ropes, allowing Nunzio the pin.

Woah -- big, gorgeous VIP-type guy, just strolled by from the back & was escorted to his seats. I dunno who he was, but very muscular, very expensive watch, very gorgeous, fairly skanky-looking female with him (IMO).

3) Charlie Haas & Rico w/ Miss Jackie vs. the Bashams: Rico is so damn happy to be back, it’s adorable! He’s having the time of his life out there, (It’s contagious!), & the gimmick hasn’t changed one bit. Bashams are fine opponents, but this is Rico’s party. Watch for Charlie’s & Rico’s respective high spots at the end of the match – very nice. Give the win to Rico, who’s all smiles. :-)

4) Rene Dupree w/ Kenzo & Hiroku vs. Bob Holly: Where’s Fifi!?!?!? No Fifi???? Awwww. Has Hiroku had the little french & japanese flags in her hair before? Bob got a big entrance pop – surprised me how much. Rene working the crowd extremely well. Good match. Hiroku distracts the ref, allowing Suzuki to attempt to help by cheating, but that doesn’t work. Rene gets a mostly clean pin on Bob, as Bob complains that his foot was on the rope. Which naturally makes him cranky.

On his way out, flattens the incoming jobber on the entranceway. (Oh, Bob. The innocents.)

5) Jobber was announced as something like “Tony Shivatre”, but I believe this is actually Derick Neikirk from IZW in Phoenix vs. Johnny Stamboli (without Nunzio): Jobber does a perfectly lovely job before getting squashed by Stamboli.

Superstar Billy Graham gets escorted to his seats, getting a nice crowd reaction along the way.

Tazz & Cole make their entrance together. Crazy-go-nuts pyro.

SmackDown

6) Billy Kidman vs. Paul London: They make their entrances, the bell rings, Billy has second thoughts before we even start, & walks out. Ref counts 10 for a DQ win to London.

7) Booker T apparently feels that since Paul is all dressed out, he should have somebody to fight, so we have a Booker vs. London match: London does a great job hitting his flashy-cool stuff, & that seems to mesh well with Booker. The match is overall very good. Win to Booker, although both he & Paul looked to be all up in the ropes from where I was.

Booker gets on the mic outside the ring & starts to call out Cena. Paul takes umbrage at being called a “punk ass”, & baseball slides out of the ring into Booker, mid-“Can you dig it…”

Foley’s taped piece: These all basically start with a close-up of the interviewee, talking about “most memorable SD moment”, then shifts into the applicable clips with narration. Foley’s first one was a promo by the Rock, where his sunglasses fly off mid-catchphrase, Foley picks them up, & they both try to carry on without cracking up. His second one was the “transformation” from Mankind to Cactus Jack to fight HHH.

Kidman backstage, dressed & leaving is cornered by Teddy Long. Teddy makes Kidman/London for No Mercy, & informs Billy that if he bails on that match, he’ll be fired.

Josh interviewing Spike & Rey. Rey goes off on Spike in spanish. Kenzo looms up behind him, demanding that he speak english. Rey provides tacit consent by bashing Kenzo with Rey’s big necklace/chain.

8) Rey vs. Spike w/ D’Von & Bubba, for C/W title: Bubba gets caught in-ring, nearly clocking the ref; Bubba & D’Von get tossed. Ref demands Spike back into the ring, as Rey does the vault over the ref-&-ropes to jump Rey on the outside. Accidental ref bump by Rey. Set up for the 619, but Dupree & Suzuki run-in, pull down the middle rope, dumping Rey. They beat on him, toss him in the ring, & Spike gets the pinfall. Rene & Kenzo in to beat on Rey some more, as RVD runs-in to clean house for the save.

Steph’s taped piece: First, there was the time she slapped mom in the ring. (“She dropped like a sack of potatoes.”) Second was the triangle with HHH & Kurt Angle – “He’s the worst kisser.”)

((This is the second night in a row I nearly get killed not trying for a T-shirt, but getting run over anyway. Aieeee!))

Teddy objects to Rene & Kenzo interfering with Rey, & makes them vs. Rey/RVD for No Mercy. Rene trying to figure out “For shizzle fizzle” – silly!

Heidenreich clearing a path backstage, & Cole getting into a panic out at the announcer’s table. Heidenreich, however, is actually heading for Vince’s office.

9) Viscera & Gangrel (billed as The Ministry) vs. The Undertaker: Gangrel’s got a chalice of “blood” that he schlurps then sprays. Undertaker’s entrance is so cool in person. (Talk about “presence”.) Just as Taker gets settled in-ring, JBL’s limo drives in – he pops up (think “Jack in the Box”) out of the limo’s sunroof – he’s just here to watch. Orlando lurks around the ring. Ministry gets the early offence, but Taker rallies for Tombstone to Gangrel & chokeslam (as best he can, not being able to get much height) to Viscera. JBL displeased with this turn of events. One additional chair spot to Viscera causes JBL to bail. Fun stuff.

Heidenreich explains to Vince why they’re alike &/or mirror images of each other, & has another poem. (Anybody watch enough Trading Spaces to remember the one room they kept calling “A Pretty Room … by Doug” ? Now we have “A Poem … by Heidenreich.”) Vince is as placating as possible, & wisely thanks Heidenreich for sharing. (Nobody ever said Vince was dumb.)

10) “School Girl Match” is originally supposed to be Torrie vs. Dawn, but Teddy morphs this into Torrie & Dawn vs. “old school” Mae Young & Moolah. Teddy dancing with Mae & Moolah, & Dawn giving a valiant effort to try to make something watchable kept this all light & silly.

Austin’s taped piece: First, visiting the troops in Baghdad, when he was Santa in disguise. Second, singing & playing guitar with Vince, then Kurt joining in with his “Jimmy Crack Corn”.

Get a (presumably pre-taped) Cena, doing a 5th anniversary commmorative rap. It had enough Rock references in it that I was wondering if we might have a Rock visitation – but no.

(Did I just space that we’d made Eddie vs. Luther for No Mercy, or is that a new development?)

Kurt takes an onscreen promo spot to complain that nobody asked him what his memorable SD moments were. But that he was going to make one tonight. (“What?” They had to show Austin, didn’t they?)

Hogan’s taped piece: First, his return on July 4th, where he got a huge Hulkamania reception. Second, putting over Edge as “future of our business”.

11) Kurt Angle & Luther Reigns vs. Eddie Guerrero & Big Show: Eddie doesn’t even come up to BS’ shoulder! Fun goodness, including a particularly cool spot with Eddie doing a splash off of Big Show’s shoulders! No clue where Jindrak came from, but he arrived to help out Luther keep BS busy while … Kurt shoots Big Show with an air rifle / tranquilizer gun. BS does a lovely collapsing tranquilized elephant impersonation, Kurt sends Jindrak to fetch … clippers. Yup, shaved Big Show’s head while he was down. I’m thinking the end-of-show shot was Kurt posing with the shorn BS head.

Paramedics attempting to roll a rallying Big Show onto a backboard was pretty amusing. Among the paramedics were Mike Nox & Derick Neikirk (IZW), & they got tossed around a bit by the rallying Big Show. Groggy Big Show insisted on staggering out on his own. (Good thing they didn’t have to try to carry him.)

Meanwhile, Eddie is just rallying. He gets into the ring & calls back out Kurt. Wonderful goodness with Eddie’s 3 suplexes, & a 5-star finisher, & Eddie sticking some of BS’ hair onto Kurt’s head. (I’m not sure if Eddie caught Kurt a bit on the landing – we wrapped quite quickly after that.)

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Excellent, fun, entertaining show! Great, great stuff!!
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I can't believe they are still going with Mae Young and Moolah. Not that I wouldn't like them, but both are over 80 years old!!! One day this might end on a bad note.....



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I've thought all along that Rey & RVD should be vying for the straps ... hopefully they'll get more time as a team than Kidman & London ...

I'm wondering if Jindrak's interference is the start of Angle's new stable?




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Emma - thanks for those spoilers. WAY more detailed than anything else I've read on the net today (one account just said "stone cold recalls his favorite SD moment" and then moves on).

Sounds like a pretty good show. Sure, they didn't have any live surprises from the three legends, but they weren't expected to anyways. Some nice stuff developing for No Mercy as well.



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You'd have thought a 5 year anniversary would warrant a live show, but seems not. You remember when Yokozuna had to be carried out on a cart, and Big Show is still 200 lbs lighter !



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Wow, that looks almost as bad as Raw X. No words right now can express my utter disappointment with this.
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I know that this isn't a widely-held opinion, but I'm actually quite enjoying the way they're handling Heidenreich at the moment. Sure, it's all very Perry Saturn/Moppy (when Cole, as requested, thanked him for the poem last week, I was sure that Heidenreich was going to reply with "You're welcome") but at least it's a slightly different way of going about getting Vince's latest hoss over.
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    Originally posted by A Fan
    Wow, that looks almost as bad as Raw X. No words right now can express my utter disappointment with this.


That's silly (and my opinion so ofcourse you can disagree) to say judging how the show is based on the spoilers.
1 - They didn't hype this like they did the Raw X (which was a special evening etc etc) but said we have some special stuff in our regular wrestling show
2 - There were no rumors of special events happening or special appearances. It was known that they were pre-taped segments.
3 - The spoilers by Emma make it sound like it's a decent show, and it might play out great on tv..

And err..any show that has the BROOD MUSIC~! rules :)



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SmackDown's getting its shit together in the undercard a lot better than Raw right now. Ten days til No Mercy and we have what could easily pass as a complete card:

-Last Ride Match For The WWE Title: The Undertaker Vs. JBL
-Kurt Angle Vs. The Big Show
-Luther Reigns Vs. Eddie Guerrero
-WWE Tag Team Title Match: RVD/Rey Mysterio Vs. Dupree/Suzuki
-United States Title Match: John Cena Vs. Booker T
-Billy Kidman Vs. Paul London


Plus a probable cruiserweight title defence and the inevitable Rico/Haas Vs. Dudleyz match. It may not look as strong in-ring as Unforigven did, but its been built a Hell of a lot better.



Once upon a time in China, some believe, around the year one double-ought three, head priest of the White Lotus Clan, Pai Mei was walking down the road, contemplating whatever it is that a man of Pai Mei's infinite power contemplates - which is another way of saying "who knows" - when a Shaolin monk appeared, traveling in the opposite direction. As the monk and the priest crossed paths, Pai Mei, in a practically unfathomable display of generosity, gave the monk the slightest of nods. The nod was not returned. Now was it the intention of the Shaolin monk to insult Pai Mei or did he just fail to see the generous social gesture? The motives of the monk remain unknown. What is known, are the consequences. The next morning Pai Mei appeared at the Shaolin Temple and demanded of the Temple's head abbot that he offer Pai Mei his neck to repay the insult. The Abbot at first tried to console Pai Mei, only to find Pai Mei was inconsolable. So began the massacre of the Shaolin Temple and all 60 of the monks inside at the fists of the White Lotus. And so began the legend of Pai Mei's five point palm exploding heart technique.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    SmackDown's getting its shit together in the undercard a lot better than Raw right now.

Totally agree. IMO, SD's been more watchable than Raw for the last 2 months, and it's directly attributable to the undercard. Neither show has a ME than I'm interested in (JBL/Taker and HHH/Orton), but at least the SD undercard has been more interesting than Raw's (for me, any way).

    Originally posted by Leviathan
    I know that this isn't a widely-held opinion, but I'm actually quite enjoying the way they're handling Heidenreich at the moment.

Hey, anything that keeps him away from actually wrestling is fine by me. Of course, anything that would keep him away from the WWE would be even better.

SD looks decent enough. I could do without the Taker/Ministry or the women's stuff, but the rest of the show looks good.

Velocity looks pretty good, too. Akio/Nunzio & Haas/Rico vs. Bashams should be good, and Stamboli getting a win gets a thumbs-up from me. SD needs more FBI.

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 22.9.04 1051)


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    SmackDown's getting its shit together in the undercard a lot better than Raw right now. Ten days til No Mercy and we have what could easily pass as a complete card:

    -Last Ride Match For The WWE Title: The Undertaker Vs. JBL
    -Kurt Angle Vs. The Big Show
    -Luther Reigns Vs. Eddie Guerrero
    -WWE Tag Team Title Match: RVD/Rey Mysterio Vs. Dupree/Suzuki
    -United States Title Match: John Cena Vs. Booker T
    -Billy Kidman Vs. Paul London


    Plus a probable cruiserweight title defence and the inevitable Rico/Haas Vs. Dudleyz match. It may not look as strong in-ring as Unforigven did, but its been built a Hell of a lot better.


I totally agree OSH ... Smackdown has had a good buildup for the No Mercy PPV and I, for one, am looking forward to watching it.

I like the idea of the Rico/Haas vs. the Dudleys for a #1 contenders spot ... May be a buildup Survivor Series fatal 4-way for the Smackdown tag straps.

(edited by Mayhem on 22.9.04 1019)



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I've gotta' agree with OldSchoolHero here, completely. While this doesn't look like the best of cards, it's been built tremendously.

Undertaker v. JBL probably won't be good, but WWE main-event match bookings have suprised us before. Kurt Angle v. Big Show will probably be mediocre, but not outright bad. I don't know what to expect from Eddie v. Luther, but I'm not exactly expecting a **** match. RVD/Mysterio v. Suzuki/Dupree will probably be mediocre. Cena v. Booker has been a dissapointment in the ring so far, but they have the ability to pull out a decent match. Dudleyz v. Rico/Haas should at least be fun to watch. And Kidman v. London should be really good if given some time.

Again, not exactly WrestleMania x-seven in terms of in-ring quality. However, AT LEAST SmackDown got over, what I thought was, it's biggest problem; Completely abandoning the mid-card. In the past several months, SmackDown would have 3 matches made for their PPV, and then just slap together the rest of their card the week before the show. Now, however, about 2 weeks out, and we already know most, if not all, of the card.

The only question is Spike Dudley. Will he be defending the CW Title? Or just managing the Dudleyz. It shouldn't be too hard to set up a last-minute title defense, though.

(edited by OMEGA on 22.9.04 1211)


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Against whom? Rey will be involved in the tag match, and Kidman & London have their match. Not really anyone else they can put him against, unless it's just a random opponent just for the sake of having a match.



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I'd see if they can swing a Spike/Nunzio match by having your standard Duds/FBI bout descending into a brawl next week. You could even work Haas and Rico in there as interference-runners to keep that issue bubbling over. It's cheap-o booking, but it'd be effective enough in setting up a title defence.



Once upon a time in China, some believe, around the year one double-ought three, head priest of the White Lotus Clan, Pai Mei was walking down the road, contemplating whatever it is that a man of Pai Mei's infinite power contemplates - which is another way of saying "who knows" - when a Shaolin monk appeared, traveling in the opposite direction. As the monk and the priest crossed paths, Pai Mei, in a practically unfathomable display of generosity, gave the monk the slightest of nods. The nod was not returned. Now was it the intention of the Shaolin monk to insult Pai Mei or did he just fail to see the generous social gesture? The motives of the monk remain unknown. What is known, are the consequences. The next morning Pai Mei appeared at the Shaolin Temple and demanded of the Temple's head abbot that he offer Pai Mei his neck to repay the insult. The Abbot at first tried to console Pai Mei, only to find Pai Mei was inconsolable. So began the massacre of the Shaolin Temple and all 60 of the monks inside at the fists of the White Lotus. And so began the legend of Pai Mei's five point palm exploding heart technique.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I'd see if they can swing a Spike/Nunzio match by having your standard Duds/FBI bout descending into a brawl next week. You could even work Haas and Rico in there as interference-runners to keep that issue bubbling over. It's cheap-o booking, but it'd be effective enough in setting up a title defence.


This is where Chuck Palumbo is so needed ... We could have some great 6 man tag matches with the FBI vs. the Dudleys.




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I miss FBI Chuck.



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Eh. Throw him in there with Funaki or Shannon Moore or Nunzio. They've got the cruiserweights. They're just not being used. Have cocky Spike come out on SmackDown next week and issue an open (non-title) challenge. To any cruiserweight. Have someone like Shannon Moore, who the fans haven't been taught to care about, answer the challenge, get an upset win over Spike, and voila (sp? even close?). INSTA-FEUD~! Or, insta-match, at least.

(edited by OMEGA on 22.9.04 1336)


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