The latest buzz is that Vince isn't too high on the latest crop from OVW, seeing them as too "cruiserweight" to make any splash in the bigtime.
Over the last few years we've seen just about everyone get called up. John Cena, Brock Lesnar, DAVE Batista, The World's Greatest Tag Team, the Bashams, Rico, Mark Henry, Matt Morgan, and Victoria have all been called up from OVW to join the main roster.
The question I now have is: Who are the main players in OVW right now? The weekly reports seem to have stopped coming in, so it's hard to follow OVW these days. So does anyone know who's on the OVW roster right now?
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Mike Bucci (ECW's Nova) Matt Wiese (WCW's Horshu) Matt Cappotelli (Tough Enough III) John Hennigan (Tough Enough III) Carlos Colon (formerly Carly Colon)
All of those guys have dev deals. Nova's been in OVW for a couple years now.
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I was at the taping on Wednesday. I hope to God they show Cornette's entire rant against Magnus and Nikita on the show. It was a return to old for Jim! Unfortunately I missed the last match of the evening (which took place after the taping), which featured Ivory in a women's tag-team match with Jillian Hall, Nikita, and Passion.
BTW, although Morgan is working in WWE, he's still making the occasional appearances in OVW.
Rob Conway appears to be gone for good, and I wish they would have given him a better send-off than they did. It was pretty much "do a match, walk back to the back," and that's it. Very anti-climatic.
Carly Colon is at least being listed in the card as Carly instead of Carlos (and going back and forth playing face and heel in dark matches).
I agree about Seven - big, does well, and actually can play up the comedy while still being threatening. He may look like a thinner Meat Loaf, but he's always fun to watch. Bane is better than he was when he started out on the OVW show (he came in as Leviathan was leaving), and it appears that some of the others in OVW look up to the guy in some type of leadership role (from what I've seen), but he still needs some work.
Da Beast is a guy about Undertaker's size, but he's very green and has only done a few dark matches. I think he'll need some time before he's really ready.
But like I said elsewhere, I'm not seeing this "mostly cruiserweights" thing that has been talked about for the past few days. Let me know what you think, AWArulz, when you watch the show on Saturday night.
geemoney, I'll grant you that comment - that may be more of the case - if anything - that keeps Vince disinterested in the rest at OVW. I would suggest, however, that a lot of it has to do with the majority of the group being fairly new to OVW and/or to wrestling itself. It'll take another year or two before most of these guys are ready for regular work on OVW, much more WWE.
As to Morris: Yep, that's the Cat's Butler. He first started in OVW a while back and wrestled several dark matches before the tv show (and would come out wearing that big afro wig, before taking it off, slamming it on one of the ring posts, and showing off his bald head). About a year ago they stopped using him in dark matches and instead reintroduced him on television as Rene Dupre's servant (so Rene could go the whole Gorgeous George route). When Rene went up, Morris became Bolin's servant and stayed in that role until he was called up himself.
So he can wrestle, and I suspect WWE plans to use him like they did Tajiri at first - servant who proves to be able to handle himself in the ring. I'm not comparing Morris to Tajiri in talent or skill, however, as I haven't seen Morris wrestle in a l-o-n-g time.
I agree with Snookum, most of what's left on OVW's roster is very fresh and probably still very green. Nick Dinsmore and Nova are probably the most experienced guys still around.
Most of the guys that had been around since 2001 (Lesnar, Cena, Rico, Benjamin, Haas, Bashams, Batista, Morgan, Heidenreich, Conway, Dupre, Victoria, Jazz, Rodney Mack, Jackie Gayda, Shaniqua, etc.) have been called up in the last year, which has left the cupboard pretty bare. It will just take time to reload with the next wave of up and comers.
I will say that I don't see a sure-fire star in the bunch yet, but that can change quickly, given Cornette's ability to get the best out of pretty much everybody. I do think Jillian Hall is a boob job away from being called up. I don't think she needs it, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt her chances. She's already better than Gayda ;-)
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Originally posted by AWArulzThey got a real monster on their hands, but he's REAL green. Big Bad John. Good look and BIG.
Well, that's Jon Heideneich, he's been called up already.
EDIT! I'm still looking over the OVW site -- is "Morris" the Cat's butler? Does he actually wrestle, or does he just butle?
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God that's a funny one. He's my daughter's SOCCER Coach! He's a real little guy. The kids love to see him on TV
Since I was last, I will edit to add the recap of last night's OVW weekly show
Let the bodies hit the floow, it's OVW wrestling from the Danny Davis Arena in Louisville, Ky on 1/17/04. Jim Hill and Jimmy Cornette announcing,
Tank and Cage are Adrenaline and they face the southern tag team champs Nova and Idol. All of these mid-sized guys have pretty good movement, but none of them were great. Kinda cool, on a criss-cross, the ref went down to the mat to allow Nova to hop over him. Both teams do the heelish switch without tag thing, but eventually Nova wins with the Novacaine - (a death valley driver) after interference from and unknown woman (and never further explained) on Tank when he was getting ready to high-fly on the top rope.
Next is a look at the Nick Dinsmore and Johnny Jeter situation as they show the match between Jeter and Dinsmore where Nick regains the title as he does a heel turn, with assist from Max Impact, John Launenitus's assistant. Impact's a big guy and is working the old big Bubba gimmick. Got a good look, haven't seen him in WWE yet. Subsequent brawling also involved Magnus and Matt Moore. First heel turn for Nick, I believe.
Nick has a promo in the ring with Cornette and Impact. Dinsmore must defend his title against Jeter at an upcoming house show, but also, Impact says, Laurenitus wants to both reward and test him. The reward is Venus, a slutty looking blond wearing very little with HUGE breasts. The test is a match at an upcoming house show with Billy Gunn (wearing the Mr. Ass tights, SHG) on Feb 7.
The #1 contender's match with Magnus (seconded by Nikita) and Standing Thunder (doing the Wahoo McDaniel thing) is next. Nice little match as Nikita interferes and posts Thunder at one point. After the Adbreak, Magnus does some weird (but cool - kind of stands behind him, puts his elbow on the back of his neck and then drives him down to the mat - looked wicked) move on Thunder for the finish, but wastes time looking at Nikita, and Thunder gets up and Samoan drops Magnus for the win.
After the adbreak, Magnus hits the ring and Cornette tells him he's not on the schedule, but Cornette goes to the ring to interview. That doesn't take long as Magnus and Nikita beat Jimmy raw. They stomp his glasses and Nikita slaps him around until Jeter makes the save. After that they show a clip of Adrenaline and the Disciples of Sinn - Seven and Bane, cutting promos on each other for an upcoming house show, Seven has a good look.
After the adbreak, Cornette is highly pissed off. He sets up a match between Jeter and Himself and Magnus and Nikita at an upcoming house show. He calls Nikita a 10 dollar hooker. Out to whatever was next.
One think I noticed here is that the announcers, Cornette in particular, cursed a lot. Cornette twice said "Jesus Christ," which I thought was a little surprising. Max Impact was not a bad looking guy and was good-sized. Jeter's a cruiser. Nick is Benoit-sized, maybe a little bit bigger. No look, though. Adrenaline wasn't bad, and the Disciples have a GOOD look. They'll be up eventually.
I'm just glad Dinsmore finally went "heel." I've been watching since late 2001 and he's been playing the plucky local kid done good since then. Maybe this will expand his range enough to finally get him up with the WWE on more than a regular basis.
I keep thinking that I've seen Inspector Impact somewhere before, but I don't know where.
And where are the Discyples of Synn? Travis Bane and Se7en are pretty big guys, and not totally devoid of talent. They haven't been around for a couple of months, but I have no idea if they've been dropped or not.
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After looking over the OVW website, I'm wondering why some of the people listed STILL haven't been called up. For example: SYNN -- she would have been amazing as a manager to Kane. In fact, I could imagine her starting a new DISCIPLES OF SYNN, featuring Kane, and Bane.
What about Kenny Bolin? With "King" rip-off, I could see him involved in a good feud with Jerry Lawler.
I'd love to see a showing of OVW someday down the road. Are the videos they sell on the website worth the purchase?
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For Synn, I've always been surprised she hadn't been called up for something in OVW either. Then Cornette dropped the bomb recently in an interview that Synn is his girlfriend, so that explains why she's still there.
I WISHED they would have brought Bolin into WWE for a bit when Cena went over. I could just picture a whole series of gags of Bolin acting like the "proud father" for getting Cena into WWE . . . and Cena ducking Bolin every chance he could.
If you want to get a tape, I suggest you try getting a month's worth of shows (if you don't mind going back a bit, try to get the September 2002 one that featured the two-hour episode at the then "new" Davis Arena - Benoit is there, along with a large cast of others). This month's worth of shows is looking good, so you may want to wait until the end of January and then order that.
DVD-wise, there's a "Before they were stars" DVD out that is really a "best of 2000" OVW collection that is pretty decent and you can order it on amazon for around $16.
I read this at 411 ... take it for what it's worth ...
"WWE has decided to send a lot of their workers who currently do not work house shows down to OVW for further training or to help train other wrestlers. The likely wrestlers that will be sent down are Kanyon, Jacqueline, Ivory, Sean O'Haire, and Stamboli."
Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
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Well, Ivory is a definite, as she's been done here for about a month now. I think her role (and probably Jacqueline) is that of training the women in OVW (and there are probably five or six women training in OVW right now).
I have mixed feelings about Kanyon and O'Haire coming back, if true. Both should be doing a TON more in WWE than they are currently, but both also had some great matches in OVW (the whole Kanyon vs. Jeter series from summer 2003 was absolutely worth the trouble to see). We'll see if they show up, as both were fan-favorites as heels.
Yeah guys. Usually we work ourselves into a frothy lather when someone like Tajiri gets crapped on like this. What's the deal? Hell, put Tajiri in a feud with Regal for the IC belt. You want a stiff match? THERE'S your stiff match.