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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.22
We've seen most memorable heel turns what about weirdest heel turns. Here's mine:

One of the weirdest one's had to be Kurt Angles and Stonecolds double turn the Raw after the Invasion. Angle has just saved the WWF,but became an heel. Austin who was about to bury WWF became a face. Although JR made out that Angle only saved the WWF to benefit himself, has he had already been eliminated as part of the alliance. The WWF just decided to go with the fans and Austin became a face with the new co-owner Ric Flair, and Angle an heel with the evil Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
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You seem to forget that Angle's beltshot to Austin was what caused Austin to lose the match - he did save the WWF in that regard, because Austin had Rock dead to rights without Angle's "help".

Austin turning back face WAS pretty weird, but Angle turning made sense, as everybody, including Rock and Edge, made the point that Angle did it for himself, not for the WWF. Edge even spelled it out plain as day - Angle had nothing to lose.

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Mine:

Around the Royal Rumble one year in the peak of The Rock's popularity, The Big Show was a face.

During one interview, he said "I don't like the Rock" and he was instantly a heel.

What I liked about it, is there was no overt action, no heel tactics, it all basically started by saying he hated the Rock.

Awesome.
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Sting and Goldberg's heel turns were very awkard and pointless. I dont even really remember HOW Sting turned heel. Didnt hit some babyface with a belt at a PPV?
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.77
    Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
    Sting and Goldberg's heel turns were very awkard and pointless. I dont even really remember HOW Sting turned heel. Didnt hit some babyface with a belt at a PPV?

He hit Hogan with a bat, and the fans lost thier minds! Ive never heard Sting get cheered more for anything. Whats funny is how crazy the fans were going cheering for Sting doing it, and the announcers talking about how he just stabbed hogan in the back! IT FREAKING ROCKED! ...then again, i cheer anyone who attacks hogan!



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This wasn't necessarily a heel turn so to speak, because it was a situation where someone who, already heel, was turning into a different degree of heel:

The late (and great)Brian Pillman, who was a Horseman in late 1995, all of a sudden, starts becoming a loose cannon (recall, of course, the stunt he pulled at Clash of the Champions in January 1996 that caused Bobby the Brain Heenan to drop an F-Bomb on live TV).

Then, on an edition of Nitro, where the Flair/Anderson-Dungeon of Doom alliance has a match against Hogan and Brother BOO-TIE Brootie BootyMan Zodiac-with-no-name Butcher Beefcake-who's-a-Barber(and perhaps Savage as well? My memory fails me because of four glasses of wine), Pillman comes out and starts getting involved in the action.

As a result, we see Ric Flair, Arn Anderson and Kevin Sullivan versus Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage and Booty Man-- VERSUS FLYIN' F'N BRIAN!!!! It was so crazy to see two factions and ONE GUY brawlin' against each other. And to boot, Pillman was using a chair-- not the classic metal folding chair or the bust-away balsa wood chair-- one of those awkward, Bauhaus-hard-plastic, orgonomically-designed-unbreakable-chairs-that-could-REALLY-hurt-somebody-light-teal-colored chairs, and was smackin' the shit out of Sullivan with it! (This was during that infamous work-shoot thing going on with Pillman and Eric Bischoff at that time, mind you.)

I loved that Nitro more than most editions!

And also, in terms of a weird heel turn in the making-- Am I the only one who thinks that this whole situation on SD! betwixt the Guerreros and Kurt Angle is going to end up in a strange Angle heel turn? Think about it!

WHO gave ANGLE the authority to make a match for the WWE Tag Team Title between Eddy and Chavito versus the Bashams? Why is Angle getting his nose in business that's SO obviously not his when instead, Angle should be more focused on regaining the WWE Title that he lost to Brock Lesnar?

Angle's turning heel in my mind, and I'm not sure if anyone can see it coming...

That, my friends, will be a WIERD heel turn.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
    Originally posted by Papadoc
    Mine:
    Around the Royal Rumble one year in the peak of The Rock's popularity, The Big Show was a face.
    During one interview, he said "I don't like the Rock" and he was instantly a heel.
    What I liked about it, is there was no overt action, no heel tactics, it all basically started by saying he hated the Rock.
    Awesome.


It was RR2000. I loved that feud. Show came out mentioning he just came back from an autograph session, kissing babies and what not, and yet he gets booed in the arenas because he took exception to Rocky calling all in the rumble Jabronis..
It was clever to only turn Show because he disliked the ROck. It gave him the chance to return to face a little while later (the Showster era i believe)

    Originally posted by RKMtwin

    And also, in terms of a weird heel turn in the making-- Am I the only one who thinks that this whole situation on SD! betwixt the Guerreros and Kurt Angle is going to end up in a strange Angle heel turn? Think about it!

    WHO gave ANGLE the authority to make a match for the WWE Tag Team Title between Eddy and Chavito versus the Bashams? Why is Angle getting his nose in business that's SO obviously not his when instead, Angle should be more focused on regaining the WWE Title that he lost to Brock Lesnar?

    Angle's turning heel in my mind, and I'm not sure if anyone can see it coming...



Angle said he just went to talk with HEyman and Paul actually booked the match, following Kurt's suggestion.
And people can't be focused on the belts all the time.
But yes, the angle is interesting. We expect Kurt to turn, but for all we know only Chavo turns, or Eddie and Chavo vs. face Kurt. So many shit is possible still..

The Guerrero disention has been going on for months, slowly slowly building up. None of the usual '2 weeks of miscommunication and then the break up' stuff.

It seems WWE is doing more of these slow interesting turns.
Jericho has been bordering on a turn for weeks/months now.
Yet he still is friends with Christian, who also might turn face by default of being friends with a super-face Jericho.

It will be fun to see where stuff with these angles are going.



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    Originally posted by mercer
      Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
      Sting and Goldberg's heel turns were very awkard and pointless. I dont even really remember HOW Sting turned heel. Didnt hit some babyface with a belt at a PPV?

    He hit Hogan with a bat, and the fans lost thier minds! Ive never heard Sting get cheered more for anything. Whats funny is how crazy the fans were going cheering for Sting doing it, and the announcers talking about how he just stabbed hogan in the back! IT FREAKING ROCKED! ...then again, i cheer anyone who attacks hogan!


WCW's on the fly booking at its worst.

It was 1999. The year before had seen the nWo Hollywood vs Wolfpack feud, and Goldberg's streak build, before ending at Starrcade with a loss to Nash; The WWF had finally overtaken WCW in the ratings.

The year had begun on a bad footing for WCW. WWF Attitude was charging ahead, having overtaken WCW and now clearly beating WCW in the ratings by a clear margin. The year had begun with Kevin Nash holding the book; the infamous fingerpoke of doom confirmed to most fans that WCW was in a tailspin. The nWo reunion that followed lasted all of about a month or 2, before being dissolved when most of its members became injured. WCW bought in the infamous Star Trek / paperclip set in a big to overtake Raw (and they seriously thought that their old set was the biggest problem!). Nash put over Mysterio, before jobbing him out at PPV. They could have had a good angle with Flair becoming commissioner by beating Bischoff, and then Bischoff returning 3 months later, but instead blew off the angle by having Sting beat Flair on Nitro on behalf of JJ Dillion.

By mid year, Nash had been axed as booker... and replaced by Kevin Sullivan! The IV Horsemen broke away from Flair to become... The Revolution. Unfortunately, they didn't pull through with a young vs. old feud that could have put a lot of their younger guys over. The only bright spot for the company was probably Bret Hart; in an angle he 'walked out' on the company after 'beating' Goldberg with the aid of 'steel' vest. However, life imitated art when Owen died, and Bret legitimately took a several month hiatus, returning to the biggest pops he had recieved since the Montreal Screwjob, and eventually a feud with Hogan (note that they eventually managed even to screw up this dream-match and turn Bret heel!). Well, that, Goregeous George, and the West Texas Rednecks.

I hope that jogs your memory of the time-frame we're talking about here.

Anyway, when Hogan returned from one of his many injuries, the whole nWo reunion and fingerpoke of doom was pushed deep into one of those deep dark canyons in WCW's continuity, and he was pushed as a face. The cheap pops for Hulkastalgia, complete with yellow and red tights and "American Made" (WCW's "Real American" remix) faded within a few weeks of their return, though I doubt the fact ever registered in Terry Bollea's head.

A problem emerged: most of the fed's top heels were out injured, and the guy who (for better or worse) had been their #1 heel for the past couple of years had just turned face. A smart booker would use this as an opening to push some midcard heels, like Kanyon, to the main event. WCW chose to turn a guy who had spent the past 15 years as a face - and about a decade as a main event face. The guy who, just 2 years ago, was the #1 face in the company.

So, Fall Brawl came around. Sting, who was still over as a face, turned heel by smashing a baseball bat over the very lukewarm face, Hogan. The crowd saw WCW reviving their long '97 / '98 feud and immediately began jeering, and throwing bottles at Hogan.

For the next few weeks, Schiavone was spinning some story about how Sting was "secretly" a heel for the past 15 years and, for some unknown reason, decided to turn against Hogan for the sake of it! Meanwhile, despite the piped in jeers and a few scattered signs, most of the crowd still carried on their cheers and "We Want Sting!" chants. If Hogan had any face pops left, this feud killed them.

Oh, and as a bonus, WCW had "forgotten" all the times Luger has betrayed Sting over the years, and decided to turn Luger heel with Sting. This is probably the feud where the Luger crossed the "who cares if he's face or heel" line with the last of the fans.

Anyway, after the next PPV the whole mess was forgotten. Well, except that Luger stayed heel - WCW pretended he got heat, and a few marks still pretended to care if he was a heel or a face.

Of course, within a few months, almost every bad angle WCW pulled off in '99 would be overshadowed by the arrival of Vince Russo...

EDIT: Some more info on it: http://members.fortunecity.com/ corvus91370/badidea.html

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BTW, as far as wierd double turns go, I just have to mention the West Texas Rednecks Vs Master-P and the No Limit Soldiers right about here...

(edited by AJ_Levy on 16.1.04 0819)
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
Sting had a legitimate reason to attack Hogan - Luger and Sting were friends at that point (in storyline), and earlier in that match, Hogan had attacked Luger.

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