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After watching the absolutely wonderful Ric Flair DVD set, I want more. I'm surprised at a few things that were left out. If they did a volume 2 Flair DVD set, what would you put on there that was left out of this one?

The first thing that I'd put on there was his fued with Randy Savage leading up to and shortly after WrestleMania 8. They could include the rematch when Flair won the title back from Savage and interview clips from when the whole "I had Elizabeth first" angle. What a classic.

Maybe highlight his feud with Mr. Perfect leading up to his loser leaves WWF match on RAW. Savage and Perfect were his two feuds during his first run in the WWF, and none of it was even mentioned on this DVD.

Hulk Hogan. I was surprised that there was not one mention or clip or anything of any of his matches with Hogan. Sure, none of them were classics or anything, but it was led up to and talked about for such a long time that when it did happen, it was big. One chapter could be their entire history together. I'm sure there's house show footage of some of their first WWF matches together. Show some clips from their matches and angles in WCW, ending it with the last singles match they had against each other from RAW in 2002.

MORE HORSEMEN! Seriously, they should put put a retrospective DVD like this on just the Horsemen. Interviews, angles, matches, everything. That'd sell just as well as the Ric Flair DVD.

What else?

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I think, and this is just a hunch, that there's gonna be a volume 2, especially after the sales figures for the first one
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.60
    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    I was surprised that there was not one mention or clip or anything of any of his matches with Hogan.


Did Flair ever win any of his big TV matches with Hogan? Ideally, there should be *something* with Flair-Hogan. What match could you put on there - Havoc 94?

Definitely Savage. Definitely Perfect.

Flair-Vader from Starrcade 93. With highlights, I guess, of his first year back in WCW from the WWF.

The Flair-Bischoff story, including the "other" Special Night in Greenville, and the match from Nitro the day after Starrcade 98 (of course the match lasted like, what, 3 minutes?).

Something with Bret? The only thing I remember about Flair-Bret was this promo Flair cut on Bret with Mean Gene from this five-star restaurant. It was on Superstars I think, after Sur. Series 92.

That's potentially another 6 chapters.
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    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Something with Bret? The only thing I remember about Flair-Bret was this promo Flair cut on Bret with Mean Gene from this five-star restaurant. It was on Superstars I think, after Sur. Series 92.


On a similar note, Flair did a short program with Bret leading up to their excellent match at Souled Out '98.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about Bret. Since it's not readily available, I'd put on the match where Bret first won the title from Flair. I've never seen that match. Of course, they could be saving that for a Bret DVD.

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I was thinking while watching the third disc why they didn't include the other promos from that night HHH faced Flair, like the promo HHH cut on Flair telling him to lay down and the one Flair cut on HHH just before the match. I think that would have made things even better. Hey, a DVD can only hold so much goodies, so it's a minor annoyance.



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I'm still hoping against hope for a Four Horsemen DVD set, but as far as a Volume II of the Flair legacy, Keith raves about the Flair-Vader match from '93. I don't remember it distinctly, but would love to see it again. I also wished there were some video of the summer of (I believe) 1986 when Flair was defending the belt every night against a different opponent in the "Great American Bash" tour. There is, unfortunately, only so much you can put on DVD's, as has been pointed out, and we all have our individual favorites. This same thing will happen with the comprehensive Mick Foley DVD set as well.

All in all, though, the Flair DVD set is worth every damn penny.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
    Originally posted by The Red Sox Fan
    Keith raves about the Flair-Vader match from '93. I don't remember it distinctly, but would love to see it again.


In presenting that match, they have to offer the promos for it. It was retirement vs. title and WCW ran a slew of career recaps for Flair leading up to the PPV. It was a foregone conclusion that he was heading into his last match and it was in Charlotte, adding to the feel of a prominent farewell appearance. Vader was a beast then and nothing like the watered-down WWF version we were tortured by. Harley Race was managing him, to boot. After the match, Flair celebrated with his family, and I believe this was their first appearance.




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I was a tiny bit let down from the Flai DVD- not 'cause of the quality, but just because, yes, there is so much more to be covered. So yeah, I think a volume 2 would be great. The only problem I see with some of the stuff mentioned here is that Flair came up on the losing end on a lot of it, and they seem to focus on fueds that he came out on top of. Bret would be hard to do since Flair lost all their matches that remember, and as someone mentioned, that footage would be great for a Bret DVD. Savage would be good since Flair regaining the title was seen originally by a much smaller audience than his WM loss of the title, and the fued was a classic. You could even mix in some of their WCW stuff too. The Vader fued would be awesome, as would the fued with the Hollywood Blonds from when Flair first returned to WCW.

And I may be in the minority here, but I would *love* to see his fued with Luger from the late 80s covered. Luger may suck, but back then he was decent, and Flair carried him to some great matches. From that fued I'd like to see the match from the '88 Bash (I think) where the match was stopped due to Luger bleeding while he had Flair in the toture rack, and the one from that early 1990 PPV where Luger chose to get counted out to save Sting who had been injured by the Horsemen. Just stay away from their cage match that introduced El Gigante and an appearance by Robocop!

And even if no entire matches are shown they should at least have a retrospective on the history of Flair vs. Hogan, dating back to when they were champions of competing companies in the 80s.





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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
OKay, I've just ordered the Flair DVD, without any kind of match listing. Can anyone give me the full listing of what I'll be getting (clipped matches, matches in their entirety, etc.)?



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If I had to guess, I'd say that the whole Savage/Flair feud about Elizabeth was left out because of her death being just a few months before it was released ... Maybe it will be included should there be a Flair II ...



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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Can anyone give me the full listing of what I'll be getting (clipped matches, matches in their entirety, etc.)?


I don't know if this is the FULL list (I'm going by memory), but the full matches are:

Harley Race (Starrcade '83)

Dusty Rhodes (Starrcade '85)

Barry Windham (WCW Television, 1987)

Ricky Steamboat (Clash of the Champions, 1989)

Ricky Steamboat (WrestleWar '89)

Terry Funk (Clash of the Champions, 1989)

Royal Rumble (92)

Sting (Clash of the Champions, 1994)

Then the bonuses are: background packages, highlights and interviews from the competitors (including Flair discussing them all now); The Confidential pieces from his plane crash and the Four Horsemen; a 'public workout' with Piper; his WWWF debut from 1976; his recent Raw match with Triple H and the ceremony held afterwards.

I could be missing an item or two...



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Definately Mr. Perfect and Savage. With Flair and Bret, they could show the Saschachewan match (Bret's first title win), and possibly the Iron Man match from '93 (they must've taped it). They could also show the Bret vs. Flair IC title match as well.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.63
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
      Originally posted by MonteCarl
      I was surprised that there was not one mention or clip or anything of any of his matches with Hogan.


    Did Flair ever win any of his big TV matches with Hogan? Ideally, there should be *something* with Flair-Hogan. What match could you put on there - Havoc 94?

    Definitely Savage. Definitely Perfect.

    Flair-Vader from Starrcade 93. With highlights, I guess, of his first year back in WCW from the WWF.

    The Flair-Bischoff story, including the "other" Special Night in Greenville, and the match from Nitro the day after Starrcade 98 (of course the match lasted like, what, 3 minutes?).

    Something with Bret? The only thing I remember about Flair-Bret was this promo Flair cut on Bret with Mean Gene from this five-star restaurant. It was on Superstars I think, after Sur. Series 92.

    That's potentially another 6 chapters.


I think the only time Flair beat Hogan was at uncensored 1999 in the cage match. Flair won what on TV was his "15th" world title and he and hogan did a double turn.




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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    I think the only time Flair beat Hogan was at uncensored 1999 in the cage match. Flair won what on TV was his "15th" world title and he and hogan did a double turn.


I'm glad they kept that one off the tape! One of the worst Flair matches I've ever seen. The only 'first blood' match I've ever seen that doesn't end when the first person bleeds.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
Sad as it is, they could probably make a whole 'nother three-disc set of Flair's monumentally bad stuff. SEE! Ric running interference in drag! WINCE! As Russo books himself to shave the Nature Boy's head! RECOIL! As Ric wins a First Blood Match by pinfall! Not a pretty idea.



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For the third disc: See Ric Flair as the Black Scorpion!!!Or...see Ric Flair run as Robocop comes to save Sting!!


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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    If I had to guess, I'd say that the whole Savage/Flair feud about Elizabeth was left out because of her death being just a few months before it was released ... Maybe it will be included should there be a Flair II ...
I was beginning to think WWE leaving Savage out of the Ric Flair DVD was intentional. I also thought it was strange that the Hogan/Savage/Mega-Powers feud wasnt covered at all on the "Hulk Still Rules" DVD.





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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
I think they went in the wrong direction with the Sting part. They should have shown the Clash 1 match (although it may be too similar to the Windham draw). They also should have included the Sting/Flair match from Worldwide a few weeks before, when JJ made Tommy Young bleed with the leather shoe while Sting had Flair in the Scorpion Deathlock.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

Speaking of Sting/Flair matches they should've shown, what's up with showing Flair's "When you [McMahon Jr.] were trying to be an announcer, your dad sat on the board of directors and voted me world champion!" promo during the last Nitro, but not showing his match from that night?

I understand it wasnt the greatest match in the world, but I think it held enough historical significance to be included on the DVD.



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