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Meltzer reported that Kash is being suspended and that Super Crazy has been pulled off the road due to the liver epidemic.

Kristal Marshall was also hospitalized.

Well...none of this is good and if this continues they won't have the talent for a touring brand.

Scary stuff.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.03
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Meltzer reported that Kash is being suspended and that Super Crazy has been pulled off the road due to the liver epidemic.

    Kristal Marshall was also hospitalized.

    Well...none of this is good and if this continues they won't have the talent for a touring brand.

    Scary stuff.


Seriously, though, how dangerous is this "liver epidemic"? If it's "elevated enzymes", I've had that before. I had mono and that happened, but all I felt was kind of run down and depleted. It appears that Khali and Lashley are still in good shape and all, so what's the real danger? Can you take a bump with elevated enzymes and rupture your liver or something? It just doesn't seem to be that serious a diagnosis, so what is it I'm missing?

Edit: Unless this is some sort of illness outbreak (which I have no clue what that is), this seems like the type of thing that slipped through the cracks before they started testing. I'm inclined to think this type of stuff has been there before, just never tested for, and thusly was never even noticed...and then went away. So once again, how serious is it?

(edited by FurryHippie on 24.7.06 1400)
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Yeah, the more people this happens to, the more I have to think it's drug related. Otherwise how do you explain a similar thing showing up in all these people?

If it's related to a disease like mono, that I can see. Otherwise, how do you catch "elevated liver enzymes"?



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"Elevated liver enzymes" is not in and of itself the problem. It's symptomatic of a larger illness, damage done to the liver by something else. Mono can cause it, so can hepatitis or drug abuse. One of those is the thing that's going around the locker room.
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Possible Stupid Question Alert:

Do elevated liver enzymes put you at a higher risk of OD'ing from drugs (illegal or otherwise)?

It occurs to me that, given the fairly high number of WWE werstler who've been diagnosed with this ailment in the short time since the company began drug testing, it's probably likely that many OTHER wrestlers in the past had this ailment, but never knew about it.

Anyone know if there's a causal link between the two?



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From http://www.steroid.com/side.php

"Most research on orally administered anabolic steroids focus on the fact that liver enzymes are elevated following ingestion."

My thinking is that "elevated liver enzymes" is the new WWE code word for "this man pissed hot for steroids on a drug test".
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On the other hand, if you asked me to guess who on the SD roster was on roids, Super Crazy would be way down near the bottom of the list. So would Kristal.

I actually work in a medical library. Wonder if I can pester one of the doctors to drop some knowledge...

(edited by Shem the Penman on 24.7.06 2041)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Well...none of this is good and if this continues they won't have the talent for a touring brand.

    Scary stuff.


ECW and Smackdown already share their taping schedule...maybe they could combine house shows as well until whatever this is blows over.

Not to mention that a crossover angle couldn't possibly make either show worse...
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The crappy thing about Kash getting pulled is that Jamie Noble gets an involuntary vacation :(



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The Torch is saying that the worry is that they have Hepatitis C, which is a bloodborne disease.

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_17426.shtml



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Who let Bob Orton back in the house?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
How bare-bones does the SD roster have to get before they hold a draft lottery or something and move some people over there.

I suppose the answer is, until SD is off UPN and on the CW, they could be down to two wrestlers and they wouldn't move anyone onto the show. It makes *no* sense, but that seems to be the thinking.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.50
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Who let Bob Orton back in the house?


Actually, Hep is the sort of thing that he could have spread to just one or two of the guys months ago when he was still in the locker room, and they'd wind up infecting the whole roster. Hepatitis is really dangerous because of how transmittable it is. It can live in dried blood, or even get passed just through prolonged close contact with others. That's why you can't give blood if you've even lived with someone who's had hepatitis. I feel really bad for the guys who got infected. I've known someone who had it, and the treatment takes a year to complete and is really strenuous.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
Shit, if it's a case of Cowboy Bob spreading it then they're in SERIOUS trouble.

I do think, however, that this is more likely to be seteroid-related.



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My mom had Hepatitis C, and it is VERY serious. I am not surprised they are taking caution if that is what they are afraid this is.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
    Originally posted by Botter
    My thinking is that "elevated liver enzymes" is the new WWE code word for "this man pissed hot for steroids on a drug test".


My thinking is that it's not since both Lashley and Khali actually appeared at the Great American Bash. If they really had been suspended for steroids, they either wouldn't have appeared at all (since making a non-wrestling appearance completely defeats the purpose of a suspension) or they would begun their suspension following their scheduled matches (see RVD).
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
And now down goes Matt Hardy!

According to PWInsider.com, Matt Hardy will also be removed from the road, presumably (although it has not yet been confirmed) for medical reasons.

Hardy joins a list of several SmackDown! wrestlers already pulled from the road, and according to a PWTorch.com report, the lockerroom is reportedly expecting even more health-related suspensions to be issued.

The only recently-announced suspension not involving medical issues involves The Pitbulls. WWE is apparently pulling Kid Kash due to behavioral issues, and because he was in the tag team, Jamie Noble (who may or may not have been involved in the problems) will also sit on the sidelines.


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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
This is ridiculous. I'm inclined to think that they're doing this to SmackDown so they're seen to be taking a tough stance, whilst turning a blind eye to Raw's failed tests. I find it VERY hard to believe that there's no-one on that brand with health issues.



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    This is ridiculous. I'm inclined to think that they're doing this to SmackDown so they're seen to be taking a tough stance, whilst turning a blind eye to Raw's failed tests. I find it VERY hard to believe that there's no-one on that brand with health issues.


If it's not drug-related, I think it'd be much more likely to be limited to one brand. The Smackdown! and RAW wrestlers don't tour together, so if this is being passed via blood, why wouldn't it be Smackdown!-exclusive? Obviously there's a slight chance it could get passed to RAW, at Wrestlemania or through a guy who appears on both shows on occasion, but for that to happen, one of a very specific and small number of guys would have to contract Hepatitis (or whatever this is).



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.32
At this point, I'm not even sure if it's a good idea to keep up the brand extension. SD is now missing four of it's midcard and upper-midcard guys, plus a diva, and may be looking at more. Hopefully the guys can make a recovery, but in the short-term, that show is hexed.

And I agree with BucsFan. If the brands have been kept separate, then there's no reason that this couldn't be limited to the SD roster.
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