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#21 Posted on
I agree that this go around of Rock/Austin doesn't seem epic, it just seems rushed and forced.

Part of the problem is Eric Bischoff, IMO. Not himself but the the character. They're half ass trying to recreate McMahon/Austin with Bischoff but they've already killed Bischoff as a character. He's got no credibility as the GM because of the interactions with him and Vince that made him look so weak.

Part of the blame needs to go on The Rock, too. It's great that he's back and he's entertaining but it comes across like this is just a hobby for him now. It really hurts the suspension of disbelief when you know The Rock is gone in a few weeks.

They still haven't really explained why Austin's back outside of "I was bored." I agree that the current writers don't really even seem to get the Stone Cold character. The old Austin would have walked right up the ramp and attacked The Rock because he could.
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#22 Posted on

    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    I agree that this go around of Rock/Austin doesn't seem epic, it just seems rushed and forced.

    Part of the problem is Eric Bischoff, IMO. Not himself but the the character. They're half ass trying to recreate McMahon/Austin with Bischoff but they've already killed Bischoff as a character. He's got no credibility as the GM because of the interactions with him and Vince that made him look so weak.

    Part of the blame needs to go on The Rock, too. It's great that he's back and he's entertaining but it comes across like this is just a hobby for him now. It really hurts the suspension of disbelief when you know The Rock is gone in a few weeks.

    They still haven't really explained why Austin's back outside of "I was bored." I agree that the current writers don't really even seem to get the Stone Cold character. The old Austin would have walked right up the ramp and attacked The Rock because he could.



I just think that we've seen Rock v. Austin way too many times. It's not an epic encounter anymore. It's "Hey, that hollywood action star who wrestles two months a year is gonna' fight that guy who's been gone for 8-months, yet again."

Doesn't it say something about the stagnation of the WWE roster when in five WrestleMania's, Steve Austin vs. The Rock has main-evented three of them?

Way to build up the midcard.



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#23 Posted on
Well...I think they should have played the "Hollywood Star" vs. "Simple Man" angle up more. That would have gotten more heat on this match. I think that The Rock should play this like this is his hobby. That is the whole point. Rocky is too big to be concerned with this crap, but Austin has disrespected him and he is going to teach him a lesson. But the fact is that the match has been rushed into. This was plan B if Goldberg didn't get signed. So the depth really isn't there.



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#24 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      Originally posted by dskillz
      Exactly. That is the real reason WWE is where it is. No new "Austin" or "Rock" on the horizon. You are right, WWE should have built around Angle starting with the HHH/Angle/Steph triangle. They had another chance to build around RVD. I guess they are going to try to build around The Book, but they have damaged him so much, I don't think that will work.


    The worst part about it is that they don't even know how to use the current "Austin" or "Rock" they have on their active roster.


      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Why does this surprise anyone? Anyone who wasn't blocking out every criticism of Austin like a Scientologist blocks out reality could see this coming. Anyone who didn't like Austin either "wasn't a fan" or was "critical of everything WWE does" and was supposed to be "marking out like crazy" when Austin returned despite saying he or she wouldn't. None of those Austin apologists had much to say about the dismal rating or the fact the resurgence he was supposed to provide is over already.

      Austin was a stale character. He was stale before he left, and he's back and is exactly the same. He's got nothing new.



    Where is Austin hijacking an ambulance? A forklift? A semi-truck? Why isn't Austin breaking out the hunting rifle and bear traps? Why isn't Austin setting things on fire? You couldn't be any more wrong. He isn't the same character that he was before he left.

    The problem is not that Austin is a stale character, it's that the Steve Austin that we see on T.V. right now isn't the Austin that you think fans are "tired" of. Austin has lost a crucial element to his character. He is no longer the reckless rebel that he was back in 1998. The people that are currently writing WWE think that the Austin character was all about giving Stunners and drinking beer. There were many more dimensions to the hell raising character that he used to be. He's not raising hell right now, he's just beating people up.

    If Austin was acting more like he was in his prime, and there's no reason why he couldn't be, I believe RAW's ratings would be up because Austin would be doing compelling things aside from just giving Stunners to Eric Bischoff.

    What we're seeing right now is like Hulk Hogan in WCW when he entered in 1994. There was something missing to him that he had back in the old WWF, but he lost somewhere along the line in WCW. He lacked the fire and determination that he once had and just seemed satisfied going through the motions night after night.

    Feuding with The Rock again isn't helping matters. While they still are, I believe, the most talented performers in WWE right now (that aren't Kurt Angle), there just isn't any tension or real conflict between the two. Their feud feels "fun," but not "epic." WrestleMania feuds are built on hatred, and I'm just not feeling any.

    Part of this blame does fall on Austin's shoulders, as he just seems too glad to be back in WWE to really concentrate on developing his character. He's glad to have all of the bad shit that happened in 2002 behind him and is satisfied just going out and playing to the crowd night after night. He doesn't seem hungry enough to transform his character into the extreme asshole he used to be. That's the guy the fans liked.

    (edited by SKLOKAZOID on 19.3.03 1126)



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#25 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      Originally posted by dskillz
      Exactly. That is the real reason WWE is where it is. No new "Austin" or "Rock" on the horizon. You are right, WWE should have built around Angle starting with the HHH/Angle/Steph triangle. They had another chance to build around RVD. I guess they are going to try to build around The Book, but they have damaged him so much, I don't think that will work.


    The worst part about it is that they don't even know how to use the current "Austin" or "Rock" they have on their active roster.


      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Why does this surprise anyone? Anyone who wasn't blocking out every criticism of Austin like a Scientologist blocks out reality could see this coming. Anyone who didn't like Austin either "wasn't a fan" or was "critical of everything WWE does" and was supposed to be "marking out like crazy" when Austin returned despite saying he or she wouldn't. None of those Austin apologists had much to say about the dismal rating or the fact the resurgence he was supposed to provide is over already.

      Austin was a stale character. He was stale before he left, and he's back and is exactly the same. He's got nothing new.



    Where is Austin hijacking an ambulance? A forklift? A semi-truck? Why isn't Austin breaking out the hunting rifle and bear traps? Why isn't Austin setting things on fire? You couldn't be any more wrong. He isn't the same character that he was before he left.

    The problem is not that Austin is a stale character, it's that the Steve Austin that we see on T.V. right now isn't the Austin that you think fans are "tired" of. Austin has lost a crucial element to his character. He is no longer the reckless rebel that he was back in 1998. The people that are currently writing WWE think that the Austin character was all about giving Stunners and drinking beer. There were many more dimensions to the hell raising character that he used to be. He's not raising hell right now, he's just beating people up.

    If Austin was acting more like he was in his prime, and there's no reason why he couldn't be, I believe RAW's ratings would be up because Austin would be doing compelling things aside from just giving Stunners to Eric Bischoff.

    What we're seeing right now is like Hulk Hogan in WCW when he entered in 1994. There was something missing to him that he had back in the old WWF, but he lost somewhere along the line in WCW. He lacked the fire and determination that he once had and just seemed satisfied going through the motions night after night.

    Feuding with The Rock again isn't helping matters. While they still are, I believe, the most talented performers in WWE right now (that aren't Kurt Angle), there just isn't any tension or real conflict between the two. Their feud feels "fun," but not "epic." WrestleMania feuds are built on hatred, and I'm just not feeling any.

    Part of this blame does fall on Austin's shoulders, as he just seems too glad to be back in WWE to really concentrate on developing his character. He's glad to have all of the bad shit that happened in 2002 behind him and is satisfied just going out and playing to the crowd night after night. He doesn't seem hungry enough to transform his character into the extreme asshole he used to be. That's the guy the fans liked.

    (edited by SKLOKAZOID on 19.3.03 1126)



And once again, someone has "what iffed" a situation to death to ignore the possibility that any of this could be Austin's fault. Some of the blame? How about all of it? Look at Rocky. Everyone's raving how he's amazing right now, and that isn't drawing. So if Austin came back to reinvent himself why exactly would that draw any better than Rocky doing so right now? What proof do you have that it would draw other than "that's the guy the fans liked"? None. It still would have been same old same old...It still would have been moving BACK instead of moving FORWARD. The only thing Austin could possibly do that he hasn't done before is put a bunch of young guys over, but he's done everything else and he knows that. All he wants to do is have fun, he's said that. So let him have fun but don't build the show around a guy who isn't committed to the business. That goes for Rocky too. They're building around guys who will be gone before summer's over.

Even if Austin was exactly the same as he was when he got big, to assume that it would draw the exact same numbers it did then is totally ridiculous and it can't be proven. So I guess if he had a forklift with him all of a sudden millions will just tune back in because of narrative differences in RAW's writing. So if Austin hijacks things he'll double the ratings? Please. It will take a long time to get those ratings back to where they were. 1998 didn't happen overnight. Austin is not exempt from this reality. The Ooooold Stone Cold would still be doing things we have already seen. My point is that it wouldn't draw as well the second time. Just like Hulkamania part 7 doesn't draw as well as Hulkamania part 1. Just as Rock electrifying the crowd doesn't work as well as it used to. It's been done. Everyone wants Austin to be the exception to the rule, the guy who could draw for 6 years instead of just 4. But he's not. He's had about the same drawing power longevity of Hogan and Rocky and, like those two, his time to draw record numbers is over. And it doesn't really matter worth a fuck who's fault that is.

If Austin can't draw because his character is different now, then that's a pretty pathetic display. How come Rocky isn't suffering from this? He's as entertaining and fun as ever, and he doesn't seem to be strangled by "creative". If Austin feels stifled then he needs to do what Rock does and find a way to be whatever he feels he needs to be. And even if he gives enough of a shit to do that, why would it draw? Just like the most entertaining Rocky stuff in years isn't drawing, neither would that. There's nothing to prove otherwise.

I just think we need new guys on top and we need to stop whining that "Austin's not drawing because..." and yadda yadda yadda like-I-give-a-shit. Point is, he's not drawing. You have your theories and I have mine for why that is. But he's not drawing. And no one has been able to tell me why they expected anything to be different in regards to that. I still like to know what you "death to creative" people thought was going to happen?















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#26 Posted on
You can't deny that Austin is still an extremely valuable asset who can help create new stars even if he's only around for a few months. Will he? We'll find out after WrestleMania.

If he feuds with HHH and Undertaker for 7 months and leaves, it wasn't worth bringing him back.

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#27 Posted on

    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    You can't deny that Austin is still an extremely valuable asset who can help create new stars


Oooooohhhhh, don't EVER tell people here what they can't deny! That's like inviting death.


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#28 Posted on

    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    You can't deny that Austin is still an extremely valuable asset who can help create new stars even if he's only around for a few months. Will he? We'll find out after WrestleMania.

    If he feuds with HHH and Undertaker for 7 months and leaves, it wasn't worth bringing him back.




Fuel...I think you know I'm reasonable. I'm not saying Austin can't contribute anything. I just don't see why everyone kicked up a fuss when he came back like the world would reverse on its axis and it'd be 1998 again.



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#29 Posted on
Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    And once again, someone has "what iffed" a situation to death to ignore the possibility that any of this could be Austin's fault. Some of the blame? How about all of it? Look at Rocky. Everyone's raving how he's amazing right now, and that isn't drawing. So if Austin came back to reinvent himself why exactly would that draw any better than Rocky doing so right now? What proof do you have that it would draw other than "that's the guy the fans liked"? None. It still would have been same old same old...It still would have been moving BACK instead of moving FORWARD. The only thing Austin could possibly do that he hasn't done before is put a bunch of young guys over, but he's done everything else and he knows that. All he wants to do is have fun, he's said that. So let him have fun but don't build the show around a guy who isn't committed to the business. That goes for Rocky too. They're building around guys who will be gone before summer's over.

    Even if Austin was exactly the same as he was when he got big, to assume that it would draw the exact same numbers it did then is totally ridiculous and it can't be proven. So I guess if he had a forklift with him all of a sudden millions will just tune back in because of narrative differences in RAW's writing. So if Austin hijacks things he'll double the ratings? Please. It will take a long time to get those ratings back to where they were. 1998 didn't happen overnight. Austin is not exempt from this reality. The Ooooold Stone Cold would still be doing things we have already seen. My point is that it wouldn't draw as well the second time. Just like Hulkamania part 7 doesn't draw as well as Hulkamania part 1. Just as Rock electrifying the crowd doesn't work as well as it used to. It's been done. Everyone wants Austin to be the exception to the rule, the guy who could draw for 6 years instead of just 4. But he's not. He's had about the same drawing power longevity of Hogan and Rocky and, like those two, his time to draw record numbers is over. And it doesn't really matter worth a fuck who's fault that is.



Firstly, I used the qualifier "I believe RAW's ratings would be up." I never stated it as a fact, and clearly labelled it as speculation. That's just how I see things and I think that Austin's character is compelling enough to captivate an audience, but we're getting such a sedated and watered-down version of Austin right now. Again, that's just what I think and it can't be proven one way or the other, but I'm more inclined to think that I'm right.

Secondly, keep in mind that there is no one on the active roster that can do what either Austin or Rock can do right now. No one is waiting to take that spot from them yet, and that's most definitely a problem with WWE's management as they have taken their Jerichos/RVDs/Angles/Booker Ts and used them up before striking while the iron was hot.

Austin has had several interruptions since 1998. Most notably, how he was taken out the following year and brought back in late 2000. Also, the heel turn and last year's 9 month absence. Quite frankly, Austin hasn't been given a solid run in the WWF since 1998 because of injuries and their tendancy to keep changing their minds about how to do things. During this time, WWE could have been building up their new stars and, for a while in 2000, it looked like they were. But, instead, it looked as if they were only building up other people to put HHH over.

The "up and coming" superstars are even more useless than Austin and Rock are at this point, which is pretty sad. By putting them over either of those two stars now, they're really accomplishing nothing.


If Austin can't draw because his character is different now, then that's a pretty pathetic display.


Way to generalize. Any time a character, especially a top drawing character, is changed in the wrestling business the risk is run as to whether or not it will hurt that star's drawing ability. Hell, Austin's heel turn is proof of that. What we're getting today is "Austin Lite." That's given Austin a serious hit on his drawing ability, because he's not doing anything exciting.

I pointed out specific examples things that are missing from Austin's character and, had those elements been there, Austin vs Rock would probably be a more exciting feud to begin with. The way WWE has gone about this feud and both the returns of Austin and Rock has been very piss-poor and the results are showing.

The old Austin wouldn't have waited four weeks and then returned with five minutes left on RAW to say "Thank you," but get interrupted. He would have come out when he felt like it, guns blazing, and hijacked RAW while holding off nine cops. And if anyone tried to interrupt him, he would have thrown a few beers at their head, taken them into the ring, THEN given them the Stunner, and maybe say "Here's your thanks!" while flipping everyone off. I'd definitely watch that, and I think a lot of other people would, too.

A superstar's name alone can't draw, and that's never been the way it works in the wrestling business. When fans catch on that the superstar isn't doing anything special anymore, they tune out.


How come Rocky isn't suffering from this? He's as entertaining and fun as ever, and he doesn't seem to be strangled by "creative". If Austin feels stifled then he needs to do what Rock does and find a way to be whatever he feels he needs to be. And even if he gives enough of a shit to do that, why would it draw? Just like the most entertaining Rocky stuff in years isn't drawing, neither would that. There's nothing to prove otherwise.

I just think we need new guys on top and we need to stop whining that "Austin's not drawing because..." and yadda yadda yadda like-I-give-a-shit. Point is, he's not drawing. You have your theories and I have mine for why that is. But he's not drawing. And no one has been able to tell me why they expected anything to be different in regards to that.



I think The Rock isn't drawing, because he's stuck in a dead-end feud with another superstar where neither has anything to prove. Again, they need to be doing something compelling and being stuck in their own little world isn't working. I still think Austin should have come back to challenge HHH and Rock should have feuded with Benoit going into WrestleMania, but that's all hindsight. As it stands, they've really just shut themselves off from everyone on RAW and, everything that happened in 2002 is completely irrelevant.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 20.3.03 0817)
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#30 Posted on
Hey, you wanna' know why guys like Rock and Austin aren't drawing? Because it's NOT 1999 anymore.

No matter how entertaining a character is, they get stale after a while.

Hey, the original Sheik was entertaining for a while. But people eventually got sick of him. And when he was kept on top of his Michigan territory, his company eventually went out of business.

Hey, Hulk Hogan was entertaining for a LONG while. But people eventually got sick of him. And when he was kept on top of the World Wrestling Federation, the company eventually started losing loads of dollars.

Hey, The Rock and Steve Austin are very entertaining. But people are starting to get sick of them. And while they are being kept on top of the WWE, the company is starting to lose money and ratings.

Pro-wrestling is NOT a cyclical business. But when characters get stale, and promoters can't take a hint, the company usually starts to take a nose-dive. It's not until the promoter can totally re-do his whole promotion (especially the upper-card) that the public starts to care again.

The WWF business didn't start to boom again in the late-90's because they kept giving the fans Hulk Hogan v. Randy Savage night-in and night-out. It was because the WWF started to offer a fresh and cool product. The WWF was totally different than it was just a few years ago. From the entrance ramps, to the company logo, to the feel of the RAW show, all the way down to the color of the ring ropes. But more importantly than all that, the main-event stars and characters were different.

Vince didn't send Hogan and Savage and Warrior and DiBiase and Piper out there for PPV main-events. They sent new and fresh guys like Austin and Rock and Mankind and all of DX out there. He didn't look at his past successes. He looked to the future.

Rock, Austin, Triple H, and Undertaker have main-evented every single PPV since 1998. That's five-and-a-half years of the same four guys.

The Rock vs. Steve Austin has main-evented three of the last five WrestleManias.

It's time for a change. Vince has the ability to do it again. But, will he?
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by OMEGA
    Pro-wrestling is NOT a cyclical business. But when characters get stale, and promoters can't take a hint, the company usually starts to take a nose-dive. It's not until the promoter can totally re-do his whole promotion (especially the upper-card) that the public starts to care again.


But arent all those things (among others) what makes wrestling cyclical?



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#32 Posted on
I think the jump in ratings when Austin returned proved that there's a solid group of people who stopped watching specifically because Austin was gone.

The ratings went from a 4.1 to a 3.4 from 1/27 to 2/3 when it became obvious that Austin wasn't going to be on Raw until at least after the PPV. Austin's actual return brought things up to a high of 4.5 (with a second hour, for his actual return, of 4.7), up from the 4.0 the post-PPV, sans-Austin show did before . This seems to indicate that there was a group of people waiting to watch until Austin was actually delivered, people who weren't willing to tune in during the build up to his return. The 4.3 to 4.7 jump from the first hour to the second hour of his return show really seems to show that the last group of viewers was interested in seeing only Austin.

That group had to have been people that WWE could have won back, but they didn't. Why not? You can't look past the argument that the Austin payoff they got wasn't the one they wanted or expected. What they got was Austin talking briefly, Rock responding and Bischoff coming out to cut off Austin's reply before there was any payoff. That's it. Hardly the thing to call your friends about and say "Turn on Raw, ya gotta see the guy in the suit talking instead of Stone Cold!" The following week, they quickly established that we weren't going to see anything until Wrestlemania except some narrow misses between Austin and Rock, with Austin spinning his wheels in a rematch with Bischoff the week after that.

I don't think I'm wrong in assuming it was indeed former viewers returning and not completely new viewers. There wasn't really anything that would suddenly pull in a new potential audience out of nowhere. People came back to see Austin and didn't get what they wanted to see. That, I believe, is SKLOKAZOID's point. The unpredictability of Austin has been taken away. You were never sure before when or in what giant, stolen vehicle Austin would be arriving at the show. The first to second hour jump on his return show indicates that things are obvious enough now that people know exactly when things are going to happen, and in a segment or two, quickly know exactly how little they're going to get every week.

The advantage that the old Austin would bring to today's show is keeping those extra viewers - who want to see when he's going to show up and what major property damage he's going to perform - around through enough of the show to get them interested in the new stars they need to make. During the WWF's rise back up in the ratings, it was the constant possibility that Austin was going to show up and do something wild that kept people watching long enough to see Rocky Maivia turn into The Rock and realize that there were other people worth watching, too. And then actually matching them up with Austin - like they did with Austin and the Rock with the IC title, Austin and Dude Love as part of the Austin/McMahon story and Austin/HHH in the build to SummerSlam 1999 - to confirm that they're at the top level.

He expressed a desire to do this in his magazine article, but they're not taking advantage of it. There are thousands of people willing to come out to retail stores and minor league hockey games to see the guy. There are portions of the ratings audience who were apparently willing to come back to the show just to see him. It's not an unreasonable assumption to think that having his return fizzle out by not stepping up his conflict with Rock and instead have it get cut off by a secondary character hyping a mostly unrelated match that they didn't actually intend to do wasn't the best way to keep that audience around.

I would say that, from reading accounts of the things that Austin and Rock have been doing after the shows have gone off the air - and these are more likely the things that they're improvising together (which is what Austin suggested the performers be allowed to do in his article), that's what they should have had and still should have him doing. Putting him back into the standard pattern of a talking head segment in the back and an appearance at the end, like everyone else who was at the top of the show while he was gone, isn't the way to maximize what he can do for the company. It's just putting him into the formula that hasn't been working for some time now.
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#33 Posted on

    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze

      Originally posted by OMEGA
      Pro-wrestling is NOT a cyclical business. But when characters get stale, and promoters can't take a hint, the company usually starts to take a nose-dive. It's not until the promoter can totally re-do his whole promotion (especially the upper-card) that the public starts to care again.


    But arent all those things (among others) what makes wrestling cyclical?



Well, I phrased it wrong.

Whenever Linda McMahon has a press-conference, she always talks about wrestling as a cyclical business. Like, it has nothing to do with what WWE is doing. When, in fact, it has everything to do with what WWE is doing.

The public doesn't just automatically decide one day that pro-wrestling is a cool thing to watch. Then, two years later, collectivley say, "Alright, that was fun. Time to get out of this thing for a couple of years".

Business isn't cyclical. The wrestlers and their characters are cyclical. Austin's popularity went up, and now it's gone down. Time for someone else's popularity to go up, like a Booker T or a Rob Van Dam.

It just so happens that the business and the characters go hand-in-hand.
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#34 Posted on
One little positive information I got from this weeks ratings is that there was a very solid second hour jump from a 3.5 first hour to a 4.0 second hour.

Some have a point that St. Patty's day, plus Bush's war speech might have something to do with it...I was just upset because I want to see a quality show as I thought they put on Monday get a better result, especially the second hour which was as good a full hour as I can remember on Raw, starting from the women division segment all the way too the end of the show. And seeing the 0.5 second hour jump is at least some silver lining.

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