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http://sports.espn.go.com/ mlb/news/story?id=1735039

If this happens which i dont think it will they Yankees will not only be the front runner for this year but they will be set up for at least the next 5 years. God I hate the Yankees.
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Actually, this going public means its obvious A-Rod is out of Texas before spring training. With the Dodger ownership now finalized, I think by Thursday night A-Rod and Mag Ordonez are in Boston, Manny and money and pitching in Texas, young pitching in White Sox land, and No-Arm in La-La Land.



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According to Newsday, The Yankees and Rangers have agreed in principle. Arod and cash for Soriano and a Minor league pitcher. I think I'm gonna throw up.


http://www.newsday.com/ sports/ny-arod0214,0,6825611.story? coll=ny-sports-span-headlines



(edited by edoug on 14.2.04 1301)
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Just when you think maybe, perhaps, things have changed, everything gets fucked up yet again. Fuck Aaron Boone for blowing out his knee. Fuck Larry Luchiano for opening his mouth and bitching about Texas ownership, thus killing the deal and showing yet again that he's nothing more than a windbag. The call for Grady Little's blood rang through the streets in October. I want Larry Luchiano's blood to flow as well, and for him to be out of town by the end of spring training.
Good trade for the Rangers though, at least they get a young bat that can hit 45 home runs in that ballpark at relatively short money for a few years.



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Well, so much for my pipe dream of the Blue Jays finishing higher than third this year. Fuck the Yankees.

(Edited by drjayphd cause you're stretching the tables.)

(edited by drjayphd on 14.2.04 1732)


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Table breaker.

The Yankees are fools if they play Jeter at short over A-Rod though. Complete fools.





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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week. "EMBRACE THE PENIS! LOVE THE PENIS! THE PENIS IS YOUR BEST FRIEND! Be..... the penis." (DEAN)
(retch)

If there's any consolation, it's that they still have a bunch of holes that this trade doesn't fix. And now who plays 2B?

...I know, it doesn't make things any better, but I still think we've got the pitching AND hitting to knock 'em off.



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Fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!!

This is BULLSHIT!

RSN, this isn't Larry Lucchino's fault as much as it is the union's. The Red Sox and Rangers were agreed on a deal, A-Rod was fine with it, everybody LOVED IT. But then the goddamn Player's Union had to step in and say "Oh, no! You're not stealing A-Rod's money! We don't care if A-Rod wants to give the money away; it's because you BRAINWASHED him! Money is more important than winning! Money, money, money!"

And now this deal is gonna go through, even though A-Rod's still gonna lose money "But now it's for NEW YORK! New York is MONEY!"

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The deal itself does not really piss me off. We all know that its pitching tha wins in the playoffs and as of this year the sox and MFY are still pretty close. I do have some questions.

1 Will the sox sign Perdo and Nomar. They need to sign At least one of them before the end of spring training or all hell will break loose during this season. Lowe has starting to complian again which is normal for the guy.

2. Did the sox talk to Arod about moving to thrid? All during the winter all I heard is that you dont trade 2 superstars for 1. Could the sox have kept both Nomar and Arod for just this season and then let Nomar walk. Was it even an option.

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    Originally posted by calvinh0560
    The deal itself does not really piss me off. We all know that its pitching tha wins in the playoffs and as of this year the sox and MFY are still pretty close. I do have some questions.

    1 Will the sox sign Perdo and Nomar. They need to sign At least one of them before the end of spring training or all hell will break loose during this season. Lowe has starting to complian again which is normal for the guy.

    2. Did the sox talk to Arod about moving to thrid? All during the winter all I heard is that you dont trade 2 superstars for 1. Could the sox have kept both Nomar and Arod for just this season and then let Nomar walk. Was it even an option.




The BoSox would have been getting two superstars back, because they would have traded for Magglio Orodonez to play left for them. And the Sox didn't need a third baseman at the time, they have the defending AL batting champion there, although he can play second, which was a need for them at the beginning of the year.





In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    The Yankees are fools if they play Jeter at short over A-Rod though.


ARod would play 3B with the Yankees if this trade does in fact go through. How's that for a left side of the infield?

The hole would then be at 2B...



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    Originally posted by Bullitt
    ARod would play 3B with the Yankees if this trade does in fact go through. How's that for a left side of the infield?

    The hole would then be at 2B...


Not that great.

Jeter is basically an average defensive shortstop & A-Rod is one of the best in the game. Why they would keep someone with A-Rod's range stuck at 3rd, while leaving Jeter (who stinks moving to his left) up the middle is beyond me...
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    Originally posted by drjayphd
    (retch)
    If there's any consolation, it's that they still have a bunch of holes that this trade doesn't fix. And now who plays 2B?
    ...I know, it doesn't make things any better, but I still think we've got the pitching AND hitting to knock 'em off.
Hearing everyone talk shit about the Yanks always makes me tingly for opening day, and another decade of Yankee dominance.

As for their holes, I think Suzyn Waldman (yesnetwork.com) has it right on the money, I mean, this lineup is un-fucking-real:

Kenny Lofton
Derek Jeter
Alex Rodriguez
Jason Giambi
Gary Sheffield
Bernie Williams
Hideki Matsui
Jorge Posada
Enrique Wilson/Miguel Cairo/Paul Bearer/CRZ/Manute Bol

2B....Cairo, Wilson, Almonte...who gives a shit? They can all play at least average defense

The bullpen is strong. Defense is now stronger (Any of the three names at 2B on the Yanks roster are better defensively than Sori, and Giambi is...well....um....healthy?), and as long as Mussina, Brown, Javier, and Leiber (they report he is feeling great/throwing great) are healthy, who the fuck cares who their 5th starter is, assuming they have to give up Contreras, as was at least being reported on WFAN 660 in NYC? Where are the holes that the Yankees have, which are far greater than ANY OTHER TEAM HAS?? Boston has no holes? Oakland? Seattle? Anaheim? Toronto? KC? Minnesota? Puhleeze. With Napole....er, George running the show, the Yanks will enter the post-season with Jose Vidro at 2B or something, and I don't remember when the last time a team's fifth starter was truly relevant in the playoffs.

As an asside, if anyone wants a good laugh, check this link at sportsgoons.com (sportsgoons.com) out. Fuck Clemens anyway. My daughter puked in her bed the other night, and I used my (never warn, got it as a stupid gift) Clemens Yankee shirt to clean it up and get it to the trash.

Boo-yah.



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Position by position, then.

LF: Manny Ramirez vs. Hideki Matsui Advantage Boston
CF: Johnny Damon vs. Bernie Williams/Kenny Lofton Advantage Boston
RF: Trot Nixon vs. Gary Sheffield Advantage New York
3B: Bill Mueller vs. Alex Rodriguez Advantage New York
SS: Nomar Garciaparra vs. Derek Jeter Advantage Boston
2B: Pokey Reese vs. Miguel Cairo Advantage Push
1B: David Ortiz vs. Jason Giambi Advantage Boston
C: Jason Varitek vs. Jorge Posada Advantage Boston
DH: Kevin Millar vs. Tony Clark Advantage Boston

SP: Pedro Martinez vs. Mike Mussina Advantage Boston
SP: Curt Schilling vs. Kevin Brown Advantage Boston
SP: Derek Lowe vs. Javier Vasquez Advantage Push
SP: Tim Wakefield vs. Jon Lieber Advantage Push
SP: Byung-Hyun Kim vs. ???

RP: Alan Embree vs. ???
RP: Scott Sauerbeck vs. ???
RP: Brandon Lyon vs. ???

CP: Scott Williamson vs. Mariano Rivera Advantage New York

Boston 8
New York 3
Push 3
??? 4




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You forgot to put Keith Foulke in the RP spot too, Gugs.

As far as the pitchers go, I agree but I have to make a few observations on the positional players...



    LF: Manny Ramirez vs. Hideki Matsui Advantage Boston
    CF: Johnny Damon vs. Bernie Williams/Kenny Lofton Advantage Boston
    RF: Trot Nixon vs. Gary Sheffield Advantage New York
    3B: Bill Mueller vs. Alex Rodriguez Advantage New York
    SS: Nomar Garciaparra vs. Derek Jeter Advantage Boston
    2B: Pokey Reese vs. Miguel Cairo Advantage Push
    1B: David Ortiz vs. Jason Giambi Advantage Boston
    C: Jason Varitek vs. Jorge Posada Advantage Boston
    DH: Kevin Millar vs. Tony Clark Advantage Boston



CF: Damon vs Williams/Lofton; Push
RF: Nixon vs. Sheffield; Push
LF: Ramirez vs. Matsui; Advantage Boston
3B: Mueller vs A-Rod; Advantage NY
SS: Nomar vs. Jeter; Push
2B: Reese vs. Cairo; Push
1B: Millar vs. Giambi; Advantage NY
C: Varitek vs. Posada; Push
DH: Ortiz vs. Clark; Advantage Boston



(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 14.2.04 2325)





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I just read about this a minute ago, so I'd like to add a hale and hearty:

FUCK!

Maybe they'll crashing each other going for a pop-up and tear ALL their ACLs, MCLs, and PCLs. GODDAMMIT!!

(edited by JayJayDean on 14.2.04 2049)


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Zen, fellas... zen.

Baseball is a 162 game season, and there is a reason they play all these games. Is this a great deal for NY? Sure. They're insane if they move A-Rod to third and not Jeter, but it's still an improvement.

But they could clone the 1927 Yankees and trot them all out there in the prime of health, and I still wouldn't give up. Obviously, I'm a Sox fan, but I don't think the rest of baseball needs to give up either. (Well, except the AL East, maybe). But the Marlins knocked 'em off last year. And someone else can surely knock them off this year.

As my sig says, in Theo we trust.



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    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34
    You forgot to put Keith Foulke in the RP spot too, Gugs.

    As far as the pitchers go, I agree but I have to make a few observations on the positional players...



      LF: Manny Ramirez vs. Hideki Matsui Advantage Boston
      CF: Johnny Damon vs. Bernie Williams/Kenny Lofton Advantage Boston
      RF: Trot Nixon vs. Gary Sheffield Advantage New York
      3B: Bill Mueller vs. Alex Rodriguez Advantage New York
      SS: Nomar Garciaparra vs. Derek Jeter Advantage Boston
      2B: Pokey Reese vs. Miguel Cairo Advantage Push
      1B: David Ortiz vs. Jason Giambi Advantage Boston
      C: Jason Varitek vs. Jorge Posada Advantage Boston
      DH: Kevin Millar vs. Tony Clark Advantage Boston



    CF: Damon vs Williams/Lofton; Push
    RF: Nixon vs. Sheffield; Push
    LF: Ramirez vs. Matsui; Advantage Boston
    3B: Mueller vs A-Rod; Advantage NY
    SS: Nomar vs. Jeter; Push
    2B: Reese vs. Cairo; Push
    1B: Millar vs. Giambi; Advantage NY
    C: Varitek vs. Posada; Push
    DH: Ortiz vs. Clark; Advantage Boston



    (edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 14.2.04 2325)


No, no, no. Jeter and Posada are two of the most overrated players in baseball. Nomar Garciaparra is the second best shortstop in the Al East (even if the best is playing 3rd base) and Jason Varitek is the best catcher in baseball that isn't playing for a 100-loss team.

EDIT: And one more thing, am I the only one getting a Lakers vibe from these Yankees? They've loaded up on superstars (A-Rod, Vasquez, Brown) but overlooked the little things (2B, bench, bullpen).

(edited by gugs on 15.2.04 0122)


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Ya, know Texas is going to come out of this deal looking pretty sweet. Soriano is a steal and they will eventually trade him or let him go. So they don't have to suffer one bit for their financial irresposibility. I wish I could live that kind of life.

Baseball can only blame baseball for this mess.

Can you blame the Yankees for wanting to pay? Now way, but you can blame baseball for letting a team go this crazy while teams like the Reds and the Brewers sucker tax payers to build stadiums without holding up their end of the bargain of putting out a winner.

The game was so much more fun 10 -15 years ago when I didn't understand all this crap.

(edited by EastCoastJoe on 15.2.04 0127)
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I can't wait to see the final numbers about how much Texas is paying for A-rod. From what I hear (64M) I would be pissed that if I was a Texas fan.

The MFY still have no bench at all. But I have no doubt that they will pick up one or two big name players at the deadline. I still like the Sox pitching as long as Pedro is health come playoff year. You know there is good chance that the sox can win over 100 games and still be 10-15 behind the MFY. Thank good for the wild card.

(edited by calvinh0560 on 15.2.04 0215)
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