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#1 Posted on
Last I checked the IC Title consisted of:

-WWF/E Intercontinental Championship (itself)
-WWF/E European Championship
-WWF/E Hardcore Championship
-WCW United States Championship
-WCW International Championship (I think)


The little belt is more prestigious than the Unified World Title it seems. That one is only 2 or 3.




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
How did the WCW International Title get in there?



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#3 Posted on
I refuse to call a belt held by both the Godfather and Albert 'prestigious'.



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#4 Posted on
The international title was unified with the wcw world title in the clash match between flair and sting in 1994. The Title that is part of the I-C Title is the old National Title, which was unified with the United States Title in August of 1986 when Nikita Koloff defeated Wahoo McDaniels.



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by Kawshen
    The little belt is more prestigious than the Unified World Title it seems. That one is only 2 or 3.



It's still "iffy" on whether or not the WCW World Title is actually a part of the Undisputed title. Vince basically declared the title dead after Survivor Series, and it became some wacky-ass non-denominational "World Heavyweight Title" after that.

It's the same physical belt, and the same champion, but WCW was dead, so how could Rock have been the Champion of WCW?

Wrestling's stupid. :)
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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by A-MOL
    I refuse to call a belt held by both the Godfather and Albert 'prestigious'.



Which means that a belt that was indirectly held by David Arquette IS prestigious? ;-)



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The WCW World title/World title is actually all that's left of WCW, according to Vince. From the 11/19/2001 Raw report:

"Because of Kurt Angle, Dubya See Dubya is dead. The only remnant of WCW that still exists is the championship that's wrapped around the Rock's waist. And from this night forward, will no longer be known as the WCW title; no, it's simply known as the world championship."

So there ya go - the WCW World title, aka the World title, is what's part of the undisputed championship.

Mike



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Since: 26.8.02
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#8 Posted on
Honestly now. Some people don't remember why people get belts. It's not just because you can wrestle, or because you get heat. Sometimes it's just an experiment to see whether it'll get you more heat, for example...

And Arquette was a nice publicity stunt... but just a really piss-poor idea, in my opinion.
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#9 Posted on
I just realized that over the last year, we've gone from way to many titles to too few.

Presuming we are going to have only a Heavyweight Champ for each show, no midcarder will have the opportunity for gold besides cruisers and women. This may seem good to some since getting a title will be rare, but imagine no Rock/HHH or Jericho/Benoit IC Title feud ever occurring again. Sounds like suck to me!



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What's the official word on that Tommy/RVD match? Was it a title unifcation match or just "the LAST HARDCORE MATCH WE'LL EVER SEE ON RAW (until someone does a run-in with a sledgehammer)"? Not that I would spend my time, y'know, researching this or anything.



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#11 Posted on

Did the WCW TV Title ever get merged into anything? Was that the belt Jim Duggan fished out of the garbage?



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#12 Posted on
My friend suggested this - could the IC champ become the RAW "undisputed" champ, now that Brock is exclusive to Smackdown?



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#13 Posted on
Less titles means less useless space on PPV's, did you see summerslam? Only 2 belts were defended on the show. Undisputed and Intercontenental. This would leave more space for the good feuds to get on the card.
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#14 Posted on
You forgot about the tag Titles. So this left off the Hardcore title (which has no feud going), The Women's title (which has no feud going), and the Cruiserweight title (do they have a feud going??). PPVs are for feuds. That's what was showcased at Summerslam.

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The Tag Titles will be merged with the I-C Title in a Triple Threat match next week on RAW, while the Cruiserweight and Women's titles will be unified on the following Smackdown. Then those titles will both be merged at the next PPV when RVD beats Matt Hardy (who will have defeated Jamie Noble and Molly Holly to win the Transgender Cruiserweight Strap), and we will have only two champions in the whole WWE: the WWE Unified Smackdown! King Champ, and the WWE Eurocontinental Transgender Transmember United States Hardcore National Beefaroni RAW Champ.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09

    Originally posted by Mike Sweetser
    The WCW World title/World title is actually all that's left of WCW, according to Vince. From the 11/19/2001 Raw report:

    "Because of Kurt Angle, Dubya See Dubya is dead. The only remnant of WCW that still exists is the championship that's wrapped around the Rock's waist. And from this night forward, will no longer be known as the WCW title; no, it's simply known as the world championship."

    So there ya go - the WCW World title, aka the World title, is what's part of the undisputed championship.

    Mike



Even so, if you want to consider the unofficial title lineage, Triple H beat Chris Benoit shortly after Benoit jumped from WCW(and never lost the WCW Title). So if you look at it from that perspective, the WCW title was merged into the undisputed title before there was an undisputed title.

Additionally, Triple H beat Rhyno when he was the ECW champ and ECW TV Champ. We've gone over this in another post before...
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#17 Posted on
Didn't HHH also beat Tazz during the whole Awesome thing?



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#18 Posted on
Triple H beat Tazz not Rhyno in 2000 when Tazz was ECW champ.



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#19 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis[quotemidEven so, if you want to consider the unofficial title lineage, Triple H beat Chris Benoit shortly after Benoit jumped from WCW(and never lost the WCW Title). So if you look at it from that perspective, the WCW title was merged into the undisputed title before there was an undisputed title.

    Additionally, Triple H beat Rhyno when he was the ECW champ and ECW TV Champ. We've gone over this in another post before...



Actually, Benoit's win doesn't count, because the referee for the match (Arn Anderson) reversed his decision 24 hours later, rendering the title still officially vacant for its time.

It's been well established in wrestling history that the referee ultimately holds the decision on whether or not to reverse his decision. Two examples of this:

1) When Chris Jericho "didn't beat" HHH for the WWF Title back in April of 2000, HHH & Steph made Earl Hebner reverse the decision and they stated that only Earl could have that power. When he reversed his decision, Jericho's victory was null and void.

2) When the Undertaker defeated Hogan to win the WWF Title back in 1991, Jack Tunney said that he saw what happened, but couldn't do anything about it because only the referee could reverse the decision, which is why the rematch was scheduled a week later.

Sure, for promotional purposes, WWE chooses to recognize Benoit as the champ, but they've also said Rick Martel was IC Champ in passing, too. Doesn't mean it ever happened.

However, going from past history, if the referee reverses his decision, that means the original decision is meaningless. But, hey, it's just a stupid TV show where rules change on the fly.
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#20 Posted on
Honestly they weren't doing much with the Euro and Hardcore belts anyway, and the IC really needs to get back to that elite level. Even when Lance had it last year, it was used as the curtain jerker. I do kinda wish they had kept the belts separate to get a Triple Crown or J-Crown gimmick going.

And you forgot that Benoit's WCW title win was simply a weak attempt to make it look like Sullivan was going to remain impartial.
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