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I watched Smackdown. Michael Cole mentioned, during former WWE Champion JBL's entrance, that JBL's reign lasted 242 days.

He won the title on June 27th at the Great American Bash.
-3 remaining days in June
-All of July (31), August (31), September (30), October (31), November (30), December (31), January (31), February (28) and March (31).
-And the 3 days he held it for in April.

My math says he held it for 280 days. Where the heck are they getting 242 days from??



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So glad someone posted about this as I was just going to having just seen Smackdown. All the show, Michael 'Z-Announcer' Cole has chirped on about 242 days.

I keep title records in depth, so it's easy to work out that it's 280 days.

I read the other day how he hates being regarded as a lesser announcer. Can we see why folks ?



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(Placing on conspiracy theorist hat…)

HHH's second (RAW) World Title reign lasted...(ahem)...280 days.

Probably just a coincidence though.

(12/15/02 to 9/21/03)


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Yokozuna's 2nd WWF title reign also lasted 280 days !

June 13th 1993 - March 20th 1994

Hmm !

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by mikebuk
    So glad someone posted about this as I was just going to having just seen Smackdown. All the show, Michael 'Z-Announcer' Cole has chirped on about 242 days.

    I keep title records in depth, so it's easy to work out that it's 280 days.

    I read the other day how he hates being regarded as a lesser announcer. Can we see why folks ?


But is it Cole's fault, or the fault of the person who's feeding them the lines to say? Well actually this is an easy one. It's the fault of the person that feeds them the lines.

I can't believe that any of the announcers actually keeps track of how long each title reign lasts/lasted for anyone. This is exactly the kind of thing that someone in the back with the time or caring to figure out meaningless info would pipe through. 'The Voice' comes in the headset and tells them to put over how the reign was 242 days, and they say "242 days".


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Anything happen Wednesday August 4th, 2004? (242 days from when he lost the title)
What about February 24, 2005? (his 242 day of having the title)

The first was a Wednesday, so doubtful. The second was a Thursday, which is when Smackdown supposedly happens.

Oh my god, you have to be kidding me. Check out http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/smackdown/history/20050224_sd_results.jsp.
Alright, I'll post it:
"Chief of Staff Orlando Jordan organized an elegant Celebration of Excellence Thursday for his boss and WWE Champion JBL.

The lavish party honored JBL for his 242 days as WWE Champion, the longest such reign in nearly a decade."

That was probably the only time that they bothered to figure out how long JBL had been champion. When he lost, they must have forgot to add the extra days in.


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As near as I can tell, the 242 party was to celebrate JBL reigning longer than Shawn Michaels in 1996, which had previously been the longest reign since Diesel's in 1994-95. Hence the "nearly a decade" line--Yoko wouldn't count because that was over a decade ago, and HHH doesn't count because that was a different championship.

One question--why have the party on the 242nd day? Shawn's reign was 231 days, so there would have been cause to celebrate on the previous episode of Smackdown, which would have aired on JBL's 235th day as champion.

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They had the party then because it was the night after No Way Out, and they were celebrating his victory over the Big Show in the cage match. Someone also did the research and found out that yes, his title reign was the longest in a decade, so they made that a focal point of the party.
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I'm sure the 280-day Triple H reign has a lot to do with it, should they ever decide to crow about that down the road.



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    Originally posted by Chumpstain
    They had the party then because it was the night after No Way Out, and they were celebrating his victory over the Big Show in the cage match. Someone also did the research and found out that yes, his title reign was the longest in a decade, so they made that a focal point of the party.


Contrary to what WWE would have us believe, this was not the longest reign with the WWE Title in the last decade. Diesel held the belt for approximately 12 months, less a few days, from November 1994 to 1995. So it's close, but they're lying about that one too. It's kind of like when they kept calling Randy Orton the longest reigning Intercontinental champion in the last seven years when it was more like six, but it was close enough that we got the point.



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TITLE REIGNS (OF ANY KIND) IN WWE HISTORY OVER 200 DAYS SINCE WRESTLEMANIA:
1,474: Hulk Hogan [WWE Title; 1984-1988]
478: Demolition [World Tag Title; 1988-1989]
454: The Honky Tonk Man [IC Title; 1987-1988]
414: Randy Savage [IC Title; 1986-1987]
371: Randy Savage [WWE Title; 1988-1989]
364: Hulk Hogan [WWE Title; 1989-1990]
358: Diesel [WWE Title; 1994-1995]
294: The British Bulldogs [World Tag Title; 1986-1987]
293: The Ultimate Warrior [WWE Title; 1990-1991]
285: Greg Valentine [IC Title; 1984-1985]
280: Mr. Perfect [IC Title; 1990-1991]
280: Yokozuna [WWE Title; 1993-1994]
280: Triple H [World Title; 2002-2003]
280: John B. Layfield [WWE Title; 2004-2005]
274: The Hart Foundation [World Tag Title; 1987]
265: The Rock [IC Title; 1997-1998]
248: Hulk Hogan [WWE Title; 1991]
248: Bret Hart [WWE Title; 1994]
246: The British Bulldog & Owen Hart [World Tag Title; 1996-1997]
244: Money, Inc. [World Tag Title; 1992-1993]
231: Shawn Michaels [WWE Title; 1996]
226: The Dream Team [World Tag Title; 1985-1986]
217: Tito Santana [IC Title; 1985-1986]
216: The Ultimate Warrior [IC Title; 1988-1989]
216: The Ultimate Warrior [IC Title; 1989]
210: Randy Orton [IC Title; 2003-2004]
209: The Hart Foundation [World Tag Title; 1990-1991]
202: Shawn Michaels [IC Title; 1992-1993]



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    Contrary to what WWE would have us believe, this was not the longest reign with the WWE Title in the last decade. Diesel held the belt for approximately 12 months, less a few days, from November 1994 to 1995. So it's close, but they're lying about that one too.


They go out of their way to say the longest reign in NEARLY a decade every time they mention this stat, so I don't see the problem.

If it was me, I'd say "in nine years" because that acknowledges the feat without essentially saying "an A is good but an A+ would be better." Of course, after November 2005 it will have been a decade since someone held the WWF/WWE title longer than JBL did, unless someone can top him.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
I don't see the point in mentioning the number of days when it's incorrect. Why bother? What point are they trying to make? Doesn't "longest reign in a decade" sound more impressive than "240 days"?



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I don't think there's any kind of conspiracy here. Just laziness. The Smackdown magazine with JBL-Cena on the cover promoting WM21 says that JBL's reign would be at 277 days as of WM21.




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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
    Originally posted by Lord of the Manor
    I don't think there's any kind of conspiracy here. Just laziness. The Smackdown magazine with JBL-Cena on the cover promoting WM21 says that JBL's reign would be at 277 days as of WM21.


Where did they get 277 days from? Even if you exclude the day he won it (The Great American Bash) and the day he lost it (WrestleMania 21) from the count, that's 278.

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