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Since: 4.1.02
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#1 Posted on
Jesus, the guys on Crossfire can't be serious, can they? Please somebody tell me that they're just kidding.



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About what?



LIBERAL- adj: abundant, incapable, self-serving, racist, confiscatory, welfare-loving, anti-liberty, scrooge-like, indulgent, lavish, unprincipled, closed-minded, philanthropic with other peoples money, big-government loving, selfish, uptight, unrealisitc, unenlightened, discriminatory, totalitarian, partial, strict, overpermissive, intolerant, biased, bigoted, prejudiced
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Since: 2.1.02
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#3 Posted on
About Canada?
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Since: 11.7.02
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Oh...the only threat Canada poses to the US is their inability to refuse asylum to any terrorist that happens in. Considering the 3000 mile undefended border that we have, we could use the help keeping the derilicts out.



LIBERAL- adj: abundant, incapable, self-serving, racist, confiscatory, welfare-loving, anti-liberty, scrooge-like, indulgent, lavish, unprincipled, closed-minded, philanthropic with other peoples money, big-government loving, selfish, uptight, unrealisitc, unenlightened, discriminatory, totalitarian, partial, strict, overpermissive, intolerant, biased, bigoted, prejudiced
-------Real-life experience
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Since: 6.1.02
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Parliament, you can have free votes and you can have members of Parliament ... actually break with your party. In Canada, you cannot break with your party. It's a total party rule."

Sounds like Albany.

I was cool with the article until the last line "you know what happened the last tim eyou invaded us." Did you know that in Canada, they teach schoolchildren that Canada defeated the U.S. in the war of 1812? Despite the fact that Canada wasn't a country yet? Talk about an inferiority complex.



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Crossfire was hilarious in the early 90's with Buchanan and Kinglsey. At that time, it was a novel show. Now, there are tons of similar shows. Now, the show is only a shell of its former self. Begala's annoying, Tucker Carlson is a whining crybaby, and Carville is entertaining for short doses, but not for a whole hour. The only salvageable part of the show is Bob Novak. They should have let the show die before they decided on the idea to move it into GW university in front of a live studio audience.



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I've seen that audience(went to grad school in the MPA Building, where they film it) and that's a strange bunch. Of course, one time Bob Novak almost spilled coffee on me in the hallway. Another time, I saw this bright light coming out of an office doroway. It was Carville's head, it was so shiny. I wish I was making this up...

Canada won a war when not being on the same side as the US? When?



LIBERAL- adj: abundant, incapable, self-serving, racist, confiscatory, welfare-loving, anti-liberty, scrooge-like, indulgent, lavish, unprincipled, closed-minded, philanthropic with other peoples money, big-government loving, selfish, uptight, unrealisitc, unenlightened, discriminatory, totalitarian, partial, strict, overpermissive, intolerant, biased, bigoted, prejudiced
-------Real-life experience
MoeGates
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Since: 6.1.02
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A short history of the War of 1812 according to Canada:

The United States invaded Canada. Canada drove out the U.S. and burned down Washington. Canada wins the war of 1812.

I won't even bother pointing out all the problems with this. I think pointing out that Canada wasn't a country in 1812 pretty much takes care of most of this.



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ICEMAN
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Since: 23.5.02
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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    A short history of the War of 1812 according to Canada:

    The United States invaded Canada. Canada drove out the U.S. and burned down Washington. Canada wins the war of 1812.

    I won't even bother pointing out all the problems with this. I think pointing out that Canada wasn't a country in 1812 pretty much takes care of most of this.




And I thought U.S. schools history classes were bad.

(edited by ICEMAN on 26.11.02 1139)



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Oh, that is not all that uncommon. In Mexico, they teach their students that Mexico WON the Mexican/American war as well. Oh, the land we got? They just sold it to us. No big whoop...




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Well- my ass still hurts, but lets see what happens this week...
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    I was cool with the article until the last line "you know what happened the last tim eyou invaded us."


I agree, that actually ruined the whole article. But that particular writer has a bit of a sarcastic style, so it's not surprising.

I am actually tired of the whole 1812 war thing. I think we should start talking about the Olympic Hockey Gold Medal 2002 instead(grin).

It's a pisser to see lines drawn between two countries which are, really, very similar with the exception of a few laws.
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Since: 7.11.02
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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pool-Boy
    Oh, that is not all that uncommon. In Mexico, they teach their students that Mexico WON the Mexican/American war as well. Oh, the land we got? They just sold it to us. No big whoop...


That's ok. In the U.S., this war is presented as an attempt by the U.S. to defend its borders against Mexican aggression. A land grab? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. The whole thing was completely instigated by Mexico and the U.S. was just defending herself.
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Since when can't members of Canadian parliament break from their party during votes in the House of Commons? Back benchers often vote differently from what the party leadership pushes. The whole leadership race with Paul Martin is pushing this issue even further, as there is some dissension between Martin supporters and Chretien supporters.

So long as a bill introduced by the PM's party isn't defeated, everything will be fine for members of the government.

Comparing Canada to Saudi Arabia or any other archaic monarchy is a joke. I don't like Jean Chretien or the Liberal party, but do I see these right wing Americans grilling the hundreds of figures in American popular culture (who probably have more influence on the opinions of the general population than most *AMERICAN* politicians, nevermind a Canadian), who call George Bush a lot of names, often worse than "moron"?

How quickly these idiots forget the help they were provided with from Canada on Sept. 11. The planes diverted to Newfoundland, where Americans were treated like royalty. Our military is a joke, but we were there when the operations on Afghanistan commenced. Chretien has now committed Canadian troops to a potential war on Iraq.

I think that these Americans would do themselves more good by focusing on oh, I don't know, the countries and people who are trying to kill them. Not their largest trading partner and one of their closest allies.

If that douchebag in the bowtie was in on this, I think it speaks volumes for the quality of opinion presented on this show.





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wow, after reading that, i have to go and re-watch "Canadian Bacon" staring Alan Alda, John Candy, Rhea Perlman, and Kevin Pollack...

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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by Corajudo

      Originally posted by Pool-Boy
      Oh, that is not all that uncommon. In Mexico, they teach their students that Mexico WON the Mexican/American war as well. Oh, the land we got? They just sold it to us. No big whoop...


    That's ok. In the U.S., this war is presented as an attempt by the U.S. to defend its borders against Mexican aggression. A land grab? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. The whole thing was completely instigated by Mexico and the U.S. was just defending herself.


What school did YOU go to?




"Pool-Boy"


Well- my ass still hurts, but lets see what happens this week...
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    Originally posted by rikidozan
    wow, after reading that, i have to go and re-watch "Canadian Bacon" staring Alan Alda, John Candy, Rhea Perlman, and Kevin Pollack...

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GREAT. MOVIE.

And yes, it is true about their inferiority complex :)








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Since: 7.11.02
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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pool-Boy

      Originally posted by Corajudo

        Originally posted by Pool-Boy
        Oh, that is not all that uncommon. In Mexico, they teach their students that Mexico WON the Mexican/American war as well. Oh, the land we got? They just sold it to us. No big whoop...


      That's ok. In the U.S., this war is presented as an attempt by the U.S. to defend its borders against Mexican aggression. A land grab? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. The whole thing was completely instigated by Mexico and the U.S. was just defending herself.


    What school did YOU go to?



My point is that you can find some group that will believe what they want, but it will hardly represent mainstream academic thought (or actual reality). And, as someone who has spent extensive time in both countries (but was educated in the U.S.), I can safely say that the mistaken American idea that Mexico started the war (or was equally culpable) is far more prevalent than the mistaken Mexican idea that they did not 'lose' the war. However, the U.S. DID compensate Mexico for the territory they annexed after the war...hmmm I don't recall other countries being compensated for territory lost after an unsuccessful war..that does make for evidence supporting some fine revisionist history, you have to admit.
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    Originally posted by The Goon
    It's a pisser to see lines drawn between two countries which are, really, very similar with the exception of a few laws.


I agree. We are similar in many ways.



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    Originally posted by mountinman44

      Originally posted by The Goon
      It's a pisser to see lines drawn between two countries which are, really, very similar with the exception of a few laws.


    I agree. We are similar in many ways.



Except for that "socialism" think y'all got going on up North. We won't have that till (God(s) forbid) Hillary Clinton is in the White House.



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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by kazhayashi81

      Originally posted by rikidozan
      wow, after reading that, i have to go and re-watch "Canadian Bacon" staring Alan Alda, John Candy, Rhea Perlman, and Kevin Pollack...

      IMDB info



    GREAT. MOVIE.

    And yes, it is true about their inferiority complex :)



Although Michael Moore should stick to documentaries, that movie owned.



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