I can't believe that there isn't a thread for this show. It has been fantastic.
I think the most impressive thing about the series is how much they have managed to develop the characters, while providing zombie action which is up there with some of the best horror movies, in my opinion. Having not read the comic book, I have no idea how close it is to the original, but more importantly am always shocked by the twists.
Can't wait to see what happens next, and I never thought I'd say that about a series which is essentially zombies vs humans. It's so much deeper than that.
The show is decent but it has nothing on the comic. This is going to be one of those pretentious the-book-is-better comments, but whatever. I'm not much of a fan of the zombie genre in general and The Walking Dead is without a doubt my favorite comics series ever. That's how good it is.
Maybe I just read really fast, but the show is slow and plodding compared to the comic. There have been some major plot differences and I'm really curious to see what else gets changed.
About your last comment, this story is not essentially about human vs zombie. It is human vs human because of the zombies and that's why it is so much more powerful than other zombie fiction.
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My girlfriend and I got into the show when AMC was showing a first season marathon prior to beginning the second season. I really like it, and the last scene of the last episode was just powerful, powerful stuff. I haven't read the comic its based on so I'm just going on the show.
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I have read the comic and I was samo up until the last scene of this season. That was more powerful. My one complaint with the comic is the ease and almost joy Kirkman takes in killing characters, he even admitted it on Talking Dead. Which is also a great show in its on right. Yet, killing a character here means firing someone, so it gives him pause. I think that will help the series, because the deaths wouldn't be so killjoy. That said, if they spent half a season or a full season at the farm that is fairly impressive considering its maybe four issues if that in the comics.
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I'm still watching, but the pacing of the show has slowed to a crawl. (I've heard that this is due to budget cuts, they can save money by shooting at just one location.)
I'm not crazy about some of the character development either. For instance, Lori's motivation seems to be whatever will drive Rick and/or Shane the most crazy (i.e. telling Shane to stay away from her son, then when he does exactly that and Carl notices, yelling at him for taking their issues out on her son.).
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Walking Dead is my favorite show on television, and I hate the comic. The show is just so good on every level, from acting, to directing, to makeup and costume design. My favorite characters are Daryl and Shane. Daryl is just awesome, but I love the way Shane is quietly losing his humanity. He makes a great foil that's not exactly a foil.
Shane is my favorite character. I think he's one of the best characters on television right now.
Rick and Shane often, especially in the last few episodes, feel like the two sides of my brain in constant argument. What do you do in an unimaginable circumstance? Strive for nobility and preserve the ideals of your humanity in a world where humanity is disappearing, or strip away that nobility in order to survive, by any means necessary? It's a tremendous moral and ethical conflict Shane and Rick epitomize.
I could go on about all the things I admire about the show, but Rick and Shane is the crux of what keeps me tuning in. Plus, you know, zombies. The Walking Dead is a great show.
P.S. I don't really know why there's no weekly Walking Dead thread on The W, or why I never started one, but there are enough fans here now declaring their Walking Dead love for me to start threads when the show returns.
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I'm going to second the love for Shane. He's been the perfect asshole character, not giving a damn about anyone but himself. And yet, the best villains are always the ones that believe themselves to be the heroes. Shane really does believe that sacrificing his friends, clearing out Herschel's barn, and taking charge himself is what's best for everyone. It's fantastic stuff.
Lori's pregnancy has the potential to be either awesome or completely stupid. I know we're supposed to buy that it's Shane's, but how exactly are they going to prove this? Can't exactly do a DNA test under these circumstances.
Originally posted by John OrquiolaRick and Shane often, especially in the last few episodes, feel like the two sides of my brain in constant argument. What do you do in an unimaginable circumstance? Strive for nobility and preserve the ideals of your humanity in a world where humanity is disappearing, or strip away that nobility in order to survive, by any means necessary? It's a tremendous moral and ethical conflict Shane and Rick epitomize.
Its one of my favorite shows going, along with Sons of Anarchy. GREAT show overall, and this season has been more of a character building season than last. Makes us care more about the people in the situation, whereas last season was just "oh shit! Zombies!" (not that there's anything wrong with that).
I'm glad somebody started this. I have never read the story.
I'm a big fan of this show. I just don't find any of the characters very likable and the more they focus on them the more I don't like them.
Part of this problem is the writing for the women is just awful. They are all whiny, they are all codependent and they all drag down the good characters with their bullshit.
I like Shane, because I think a lot of people would start losing their shit and feel more comfortable with lawlessness. Daryl is probably my favorite character, mostly because he hasn't annoyed me yet. I'm also good with Glenn and T-Dog, who I want to see more of then again maybe I don't. I like Rick from last season, and some of Rick from this season, but when Lori gets going I hate Rick which means ...
... I hate Lori, she's miserable and she's awfully wishy-washy. Andrea, might be even worse. I get why Dale is there he's a mechanic, elder statesmen, people can filter story lines through him , but the guy is creepy. I also don't like the son, it's not the kids fault he just looks like a turd. Melissa might as well just be bald Claire calling out for her baby on Lost.
I like this season, but the farm sucks. The show is expensive I get that, but it's starting to feel a lot like Lost. They have their supply stores in town they can always go to and always get the things they need, they are mostly nice, clean, well fed and safe when they are there. Hershel needs some kind of edge to him. They could have added some new blood to the mix and yet they killed the only character from the bunch that was interesting. I'm a little sick of these people, so I'm all for mixing it up.
The Zombies have been great. I loved fat in the well zombie and hanging from a tree zombie. Sophia Zombie was cool and I was as surprised as Daryl was to see idiot shoe eating zombie. The problem with the Zombies, sometimes they seem so menacing you have to kill the guy you are with to get away and sometimes you just have to shoot a couple and get in your Hybrid.
... and the survivors waste too much ammo.
Overall, they have done more with a zombie show than I ever thought could be done. I look forward to this show every week and am entertained. My complaint last year was they spent all this money and hired bad actors. This year I realize that some of them aren't that bad, some are just poorly written and some are both. I think this show could do better and I hope it does.
I've been a fan of the comic from early on. I like the first season, but this season has slowed down so much. I'm not like some of the fans who are screaming for The Governor already, but make SOMETHING happen.
That said, the last couple episodes have picked it up and I thought Sophia's resolution was a gut punch. They are seperating from the comic more and more.
Hopefullly we'll get a showdown between Rick and Shane and the debut of Michonne before the season is over.
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