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John Orquiola
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Since: 28.2.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
That normalcy and sanctuary they built in the prison was already jeopardized and it's only episode 2. Walkers in D Block, Walkers threatening to collapse the outer fence. And the flu, powerful enough to kill the infected overnight.

Who is the mysterious saboteur who riles up the Walkers with live mice and set the two isolated people on fire?

Carol isn't the schoolmarm the prison kids deserve, but she's the one they need right now.

We got to see the meeting of the Prison Council discuss the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Walkers. Rick, you believe it's this... pig?

The last two episodes have given us some insight into the state of mind of Beth, who we've known since season 2 but still don't know too much about. For one, she likes Tom Waits. Kind of unusual for a teenage girl these days, zombie apocalypse or no. I hadn't heard Waits' "I Don't Wanna Grow Up" since the 90's. Lyrically, it reflects Beth very well.



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Since: 2.1.02
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
Did you watch Talking Dead last night? One of the directors (Nicotero) was on and within the first two minutes admitted that the new flu is based on an epidemic that went thru in the early 1800's, kinda influenza type thing, but killed people in a day.

And the preview they showed of next week was just insane. Nicotero said there was 7,500 walkers in that bit. Look out!
Matt Tracker
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Since: 8.5.03
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
I suspect there are more than one saboteurs. The girl who adopted Nick the walker might be the one who fed the fence crowd. The burning bodies were shown right after Rick burned the pig sty. Carl saw that. Carl COULD have something to do with burning the bodies. He did kill the Woodbury guy outside the prison to Herschel's dismay. But I can't see him dragging those bodies himself.

If there's some way the girl and Carl are acting out, we're seeing what the new normal is doing to the children. And it's as horrific as what the adults do.

Carol is my favorite character, and I worry she's going rogue against the perceived weakness of the group. In fact, she could be the one who killed the Flu Two, getting Carl to help her when he admitted he spilled the beans to Rick. He kinda owed her.

I hadn't realized the significance of Rick locking up his guns. And I don't really buy his efforts to remove all the training and skill that Carl developed. I thought he got passed all this when Carl shot Shane.

And oh my God, Michonne.



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Leroy
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Since: 7.2.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14

I think it's new guy - the one who spilled the booze at the store and started Zombie Rain. He said he was a medic, so I think he thinks he's helping save the camp by burning the bodies of the sick.

That's the second Tom Waits' song sung by Beth. I believe she also sang 'Hold On' at some point last season as well. Jeez, they're from Georgia - couldn't she throw in a Drive-By Truckers tune?

I think it's a little striking just how complacent the group has become. All it really took was one Walker to take down about a third of the camp.
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Since: 27.2.03
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.60
    Originally posted by Leroy

    I think it's a little striking just how complacent the group has become. All it really took was one Walker to take down about a third of the camp.


I was thinking the same thing. You'd at the very least want someone on watch inside the jail, and since it is a jail, why wouldn't you lock everyone down for the night? And definitely, why weren't the two isolation patients locked up, with a guard, just in case they died and turned? That decision absolutely baffled me.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
    Originally posted by Leroy

    couldn't she throw in a Drive-By Truckers tune?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvJ-lWOZMYg

People gotta learn some things as they go. In the comic it took a while before people locked themselves in their cells at night (which was as much for their safety as everyone elses).

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
Hell, in comic book time, it's probably another three seasons before Rick realizes they could easily put a bunch of cars around a fence, to stop them from bunching up in one place.
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Since: 9.1.02
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.13
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by Leroy

      I think it's a little striking just how complacent the group has become. All it really took was one Walker to take down about a third of the camp.


    I was thinking the same thing. You'd at the very least want someone on watch inside the jail, and since it is a jail, why wouldn't you lock everyone down for the night? And definitely, why weren't the two isolation patients locked up, with a guard, just in case they died and turned? That decision absolutely baffled me.


I don't know why you'd lock everyone up in cells at night if the assumption is that you're living in a safe place. I'd like to believe that the two people in isolation were locked up, but whoever killed them and dragged them outside used a nearby key to get in.

As far as wanting a guard inside, again they're supposed to be safe. What bothered me with this scene was that people were up and walking around and still didn't hear Zombie Milhouse gnarling and snarling while he tore parts off the dead guy. If I'm lying in bed at night I can hear a dripping tap from 5 miles away.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
Zombies must really like fresh meat because they'll be feeding on a recently killed body all by themselves without having to share it with anybody, and still get up and go after the first thing they see or hear.





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John Orquiola
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    Zombies must really like fresh meat because they'll be feeding on a recently killed body all by themselves without having to share it with anybody, and still get up and go after the first thing they see or hear.


Oh geez. Don't open up this can of worms: "Is it logical for a zombie to act that way?"

Leroy
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    Zombies must really like fresh meat because they'll be feeding on a recently killed body all by themselves without having to share it with anybody, and still get up and go after the first thing they see or hear.


Nicotero explained this on Talking Dead. At some point, the victim becomes a Walker themselves, so the attacking Walker no longer identifies the victim as 'food'.

And I kind of have to agree with John here - they are Zombies, so they're always going to act in a way that is serves the plot more than they will act in a way that is behaviourally consistent.
SchippeWreck
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Since: 26.3.03
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
    Originally posted by Leroy
      Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Zombies must really like fresh meat because they'll be feeding on a recently killed body all by themselves without having to share it with anybody, and still get up and go after the first thing they see or hear.


    Nicotero explained this on Talking Dead. At some point, the victim becomes a Walker themselves, so the attacking Walker no longer identifies the victim as 'food'.

    And I kind of have to agree with John here - they are Zombies, so they're always going to act in a way that is serves the plot more than they will act in a way that is behaviourally consistent.

Yeah, it's fairly easy to nitpick, though my issue this episode was more with walker physiology than behavior. Every one of those walkers was freshly turned. There really hadn't been time for any sort of decay. Yet, someone was able to squish a walker's head like a rotten pumpkin with one good stomp? I guess I need to look to my sig again, but it still bugs me.

The gore has sure been ramped up this season. I don't need to see fence-face zombie EVER again.



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Matt Tracker
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
Remember in the first episode that Mrs. Morgan Jones was a zombie who could use a doorknob. Also, the Atlanta zombies understood how to use things like ladders to get to Merle on the rooftop.

I'm OK with mutable walker "rules." Infections hit people differently, and the decay of the body and mind shouldn't be the same for everyone.




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