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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
Was this the first episode ever in the series that didn't have Rick, Lori, Daryl, and the main cast in it? Although Daryl and Rick were mentioned constantly by Merle. Good to see Merle again. No, it isn't. I hate Merle. We're supposed to hate Merle, and I do, so everybody wins. Except me, because I hate Merle.

So we're introduced to the safe and secure town of Woodbury. I must say, the Governor didn't disappoint. Frankly, I liked the guy. I liked and trusted him all the way through until he waved the white flag at the convoy of National Guardsmen and started shooting them dead. (I like that the Governor has his own Glen. But with a goatee. An evil Glenn from a mirror universe.) The Governor even has his own Ben Linus-looking scientist guy, who I could have sworn was serving up poison tea at breakfast.

Speaking of which, Michonne is the worst dinner guest ever. Remind me never to invite her over for scrambled eggs, toast and (unpoisoned) tea.

We learned a lot about Michonne's Walker slaves, who are her... parents, I'm guessing? Or were. So, cutting off Walker arms means they can't grab you, naturally. Cutting off their jaws takes away their ability to bite and eat. And once they can't eat, they grow docile as they slooooowly starve, to death, presumably. Plus the added bonus of the de-limbed and de-jawed Walkers sending off an odor that distracts other Walkers so you can walk among Walkers. Michonne figured all this out by herself?

Andrea, suspicious as she was at first, sure got the hots for the Governor. Especially on the street there when she asked him his name, he said "Never!", and swaggered off like Han Solo.

I thought the Governor was all right, but he's got heads in jars in his panic room. So the Governor invented the heads in jars of Futurama. Where was Nixon's head? Arrooo.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.50
My TV cut out for the reveal, so it was heads in the jar and not what it is in the comic? Very Centauri Emperor of him. I also had no audio for the first 10 minutes of the show with the helicopter going down. I don't know if this was DISH trying to be cute if they were, it failed, because without the sound, it was way more intense. I love Merle, but his new hand is so supervillany it distracts me a bit.

I love the Governor. The massacring of the soldiers was utter brilliance. It showed, he was a dude not to be messed with and far more intelligent than most of the human villians who turn out to be buffoons we have run into like Merle, the prisoners and to some extent Shane. Andrea made me forget that I hated her for most of season two til the end where she was like "La Dee Daa, its a new beautiful home with a nice town shopping center, I think I am going to stay." Oh Andrea, you always choose the wrong side.

Michonne is also perfect. I have to say, out of all the episodes this season, this was probably the most pleasurable to the comic book fan in me. They hit all the right notes for those two characters which was a massive concern when I first heard they were going to try to do the prison arc. I can't wait for next week.


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17
I really loved the character of the Governor, but I hated that reveal at the end. I know it's from the comics, I knew what it was before they showed it, but it was just unnecessary. I get it; he's a bad guy. I saw him murder like 20 soldiers in cold blood. I already had a reason to dislike him, because he was an amoral, ruthless, power-hungry dictator. Making him crazy did not work for me.

That said, there was a whole lot to like here. Like I said, I enjoyed the Governor up to the reveal, and I really liked the subtle costume and acting choices that made him parallel Rick. The return of Merle worked just the way it was supposed to, and it's going to be real interesting to see what happens when he and Daryl finally meet up again. And I'm going to say that Evil Science Guy is the sensational character find of season 3. He was just so awkward and unintentionally creepy during that breakfast. I want this guy on every episode for the rest of the season.

Finally, between Shane and the Governor, I think it's safe to say that Andrea has a type.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by lotjx
    My TV cut out for the reveal, so it was heads in the jar and not what it is in the comic?


It was more like heads in fish tanks. As if the Governor was Ozymandias and instead of a giant bank of televisions, he was looking at stacked fish tanks full of liquid with human heads in them.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
I guess that the fish tanks were added so we get the "Deranged and EVIL" vibe. Keep in mind that Rick has shown he's willing to kill to keep his people safe. Adding in the deranged bit to the Governor shows us that this guy isn't just doing Rick's gig, he's sadistic, too.

Yet this was probably the first episode in awhile that I wasn't thrilled with. I understand this Governor and Woodbury stuff is all from the comics, but it just wasn't working at 100% for me. Maybe as time goes on, I'll look back on this episode and realize it was a key turning point.

-Were we supposed to believe that Merle arrived at the helicopter crash site with the Governor's guys,then immediately ran deep into the woods to go on perimeter patrol and thus, sneak up on Andrea and Michonne?

-The Gov's troops took out the National Guard guys way too easily for my tastes. Sure, the Woodbury militia had the element of surprise, but since the National Guard had survived for almost a year, I expected more from them.

-Was it a Huey helicopter that we saw in Seasons 1&2? I thought it looked like more like a news copter. Details aside, does this mean it's the end of the helicopter speculation for the series?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17
    Originally posted by dWs


    -Were we supposed to believe that Merle arrived at the helicopter crash site with the Governor's guys,then immediately ran deep into the woods to go on perimeter patrol and thus, sneak up on Andrea and Michonne?

    -The Gov's troops took out the National Guard guys way too easily for my tastes. Sure, the Woodbury militia had the element of surprise, but since the National Guard had survived for almost a year, I expected more from them.

    -Was it a Huey helicopter that we saw in Seasons 1&2? I thought it looked like more like a news copter. Details aside, does this mean it's the end of the helicopter speculation for the series?


- If it was me, I'd always have somebody running perimeter looking for zombies, so I didn't have a problem with that.

- Agreed. I would have expected trained soldiers to put up a better fight. Element of surprise and the fact that the Woodbury crew knew exactly where to find them helped somewhat, but I had trouble buying into that.

- It was in the comics (where it was also a news chopper), so I would think so. Could be a red herring if they wanted it to be, though.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.45
I actually loved the Governor's men taking out the army. It made sense too how he took them out. He distracts them with the "Hey, everything is going to be fine, I am a friend with a white flag and we are going to be fine. Oh yeah, did I mention my sniper? No, ok well here they are."

The army guys also looked exhausted. It just seemed like they were tense about the helicopter situation and then the immediate relaxation from finding out they were ok lead to their deaths. Woodbury holds a lot of mysteries and floating heads is the tip of the iceberg. I do think the helicopter is not the same helicopter Rick saw.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
I thought the governor was creepier than he was in the comic books.
He felt more subtle, more realistic than I thought he was in the books.
I wonder if he will do the same stuff he does in them, or if they manage to keep him a bit more subtle.
And yes, I know it sounds insane to say that about a guy who kept heads in tanks.

It was an interesting angle to not have Rick or the 'prison crew' involved in the story. It does make me wonder how we eventually get the two groups to meet.

Oh and I guess this means it wasn't Merle that was peeping on Carol last week.
Else he would've mentioned finding the prison, right?





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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
I think when people think of the first helicopter Rick saw and the Army one, it's natural to think that we're watching the same helicopter on it's original trip. From the first shot of the helicopter we saw in Atlanta though, it would have been in the air for 2 years at least for that to be the case. I have no problem with them saying it is the same helicopter, and no problem if they say that was a different one. I'm sure more than one army base put up a fight for a few months heading into the end of the world.

I was surprised after the show to have it pointed out that this is the first episode without Rick yet. Made it seem different, and I like that they've spread out the episodes to focus on one group then the other to get this season started. Pacing has been a problem with this show in the past, maybe this will help it.

"between Shane and the Governor, I think it's safe to say that Andrea has a type." Haha, Andrea sure is an idiot. Just when I had started to forgot how stupid she usually was.

Seeing The Governor as the "Anti-Rick" with his Anti-Ricktatorship Army was interesting. The Evil Glenn with goatee was a nice touch, but I think one big question comes out of this episode:

When the two sides inevitably meet and face off in battle, will T-Dog and Evil T-Dog get to say anything, even to each other, before they do battle? Or will they just nod knowingly to each other before raising their weapons?

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
This felt like one of those episodes of Lost that I really never liked, but it dragged even more without characters I was really into like Ben or Locke.

Andrea does nothing for me, so maybe the fact she was the focus character meeting the town was the problem.

Merle on Team Governor just seems like Bizzaro Daryl. Each team has a guy with the same skill set.

I really didn't like the Natioal Guard scene either. So, no I was not a fan of this episode, but it might seem better down the road since it was an introduction/building block episode.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
I like the dichotomy of one camp living in a town and another living in a prison. Those in the town mistakenly believe they have a benevolent ruler; those in the prison know exactly what Rick is doing. The governor's people have the luxury of the illusion.

I like leashed Merle. He is cowed. He knows his place. Daryl, meanwhile, has earned his. I did not however like the direction of the Merle scene in the town. It was heavy, um, handed.

I wonder how the show might be better if the Andrea and Lori actresses had gotten the other's role. Andrea, the character, strikes me as falling a little too easily for the alpha males, and I think the Lori actress can convey that with more credibility. Also, I think the Andrea actress can better depict Lori's regressions as wife and mom.

A good episode with a nice ending. I don't know the comic. I didn't know what was coming. But it's good. Weird good. This show needs a little madness.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    Finally, between Shane and the Governor, I think it's safe to say that Andrea has a type.

I'll agree that Andrea at least seems intrigued by the Governor, at this point.

Yet I don't think she was really into Shane. I got the sense that she banged Shane in Season 2 because she was incredibly thrilled and turned-on with her new gun-shooting powers. It could have been Dale or Carl showing her how to shoot and she would've grabbed their unit.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Shane and Andre were a "thing" after their little encounter. It was just a one-time fling after a rush.

    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    I like the dichotomy of one camp living in a town and another living in a prison.

Yeah, this is a great little set-up they've established. Looking from the outside, it seems like folks in the prison would be worse off, as opposed to the folks in the little Mayberry that the Governor seems to have built.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17
    Originally posted by dWs
      Originally posted by Tenken347
      Finally, between Shane and the Governor, I think it's safe to say that Andrea has a type.

    I'll agree that Andrea at least seems intrigued by the Governor, at this point.

    Yet I don't think she was really into Shane. I got the sense that she banged Shane in Season 2 because she was incredibly thrilled and turned-on with her new gun-shooting powers. It could have been Dale or Carl showing her how to shoot and she would've grabbed their unit.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Shane and Andre were a "thing" after their little encounter. It was just a one-time fling after a rush.



There wasn't anything else to it after that, but that was almost exactly when we found out that Jon Bernthal was leaving the show, so I don't know if that's a story or a casting decision. There was more to their relationship before that, though. Andrea was clearly into Shane from at least the beginning of season 2, and was trying to talk him into taking her with him when he was planning to leave the group, well before he taught her to shoot. In fact, him teaching her marksmanship spun out of her flirting with him. So the relationship had at least a little more behind it than just the thrill of the moment.
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