And my basic, initial point is that to call Rhyno a bad worker, for no apparent reason, is ridiculous. The six months he had in the big leagues was and still is enough to make a judgment on his improved in-ring abilities. He is a solid if unspectacular worker who is more than capable of holding his own with the big boys and kicking it up a notch when called for. He is NOT an "abhorrent" worker by ANY stretch of the imagination. Would you honestly put that guy in the same league as Brian Adams, or Ed Leslie, or Sid?
And not to rag on you or anything, but what makes your personal star rating any more valid than Scott Keith's? Or your opinion more valid than Meltzer's or Ryder's? As I recall it, I enjoyed the match, as did many others, and it was even more impressive considering Jericho was CONCUSSED and blowing spots left, right and centre. We're not just talking about Rhyno having a decent match with a ready-to-go Jericho here, we're talking about him getting an enjoyable match out of a guy who'd had his bell rung and could barely keep his balance at times. That is a feat worth mentioning, in my book.
And while we're at it, WHEN has Rhyno performed any of moves while not matching up to your 3 C's (which I must admit are quite a good scale)? He's got crisp execution on his offence and uses those moves in most matches. He was establishing a firm character for himself and getting better and better at working the crowd and garnering heat when he went down with the neck injury. Witness his very good match with Kurt Angle the night before he was "suspended".
Look, I'm not arguing Rhyno's case as the be-all end-all of wrestlers here. But he is not, by any means, a BAD wrestler. As I have said, to call Rhyno a bad wrestler would be akin to blasting a large percentage of the WWF roster. Which you may well do, as I have no idea what you watch on a regular basis.
Monte's right, this little mini-thread could have been an independant one.
To answer the question, I think they should bring in some extra talent and have a 20-30 man tournament over a few weeks to determine who comes in. You know, the top 8 guys get contracts, the top 2 get shots at the European and IC titles. It'd e a good way to give some tv time to guys we'd normally never see.
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Originally posted by oldschoolheroDear God, what the Hell are you talking about? I hope to God you haven't seen last year's SS match because if you did that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard said. Jericho was a veritable Evan Karagias that night, blowing the Lionsault and a missile dropkick in spectacular fashion (ie. falling face first off the top rope).
Was that the night a screw came out of the turnbuckle and caused the ropes to be loose? I think Jericho messed up those spots because of this, but I could be wrong. I remember hearing an audible "KLANG" during the match and thought "what the hell?" and sure enough, on several sites the next day it was confirmed the ropes were faulty. Was that Summerslam?
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Originally posted by TheBucsFan411wrestling lists these unsigned talents:
Godfather Funaki Chavo Guerrero Hugh Morrus Shawn O'Haire Chris Kanyon Mike Awesome Steve Blackman TAKA Michinoku Bull Buchanan David Flair Eric Angle Jamie Knoble Johnny the Bull Mark Jindrak Mike Sanders Nidia Randy Orton RC Haas Shannon Moore Tiger Ali Singh
By my count, 6 have never appeared on WWF TV-Orton, RC Haas, Shannon Moore, Sanders, Johnny the Bull, Jamie Knoble. Maybe Jindrak, I can't rememeber.
Two others-Eric Angle, David Flair- have been on TV in the past but never wrestled.
That list doesn't seem complete to me. Like mentioned Rhyno is not on there. And what about Shelton Benjamin, Haku, The Island Boys, Haku and the Dupps (or were the Dupps released?)
Like it's already been stated most of the good talent in this group like Awesome and Kanyon are injured. The others who have been on WWF tv before I don't think have much of a chance of having a successful career (Godfather, Hugh Morrus). And the other developmental guys might not be ready yet. Although I think O'Haire, Sanders, and Knoble have to talent to be there someday. But since I don't watch the developmental leagues that just based on what I saw in WCW and haven't seen how them, or the other guys have come along.
As for Benoit, he was on Excess like three weeks ago, and said he was getting in the ring that coming up week, so he's probably already dusting off the ring rust, so it should be just a matter of time before he's back, while Kanyon, Rhyno, Awesome etc. I think are still injured for quite a long time.
And lastly, Heat is on MTV and has a good timeslot, but isn't Excess on MTV too? I know the timeslot probably isn't as good since i don't think as many people watch wrestling on late Saturday Night as much as they do early Sunday Night, but still one show getting Excess and one getting Heat is a pretty fair trade. Then Jakked could be a review show.
EDIT: Ok, i see that second list now, didn't see it the first time through.
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As it is, my collection starts and ends at Shawn Michaels: From the Vault. I ordered Mick Foley - Hard Knocks and Cheap Pops and will have The Ultimate Ric Flair collection soon enough. Those are mandatory for obvious reasons.