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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.18
WWE.com has an article on The Secret History of Phantom Title Changes that's worth a look-see.



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I love the kayfabe "little information exists about the match/tournament" lines.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80

Seems like they were using a bunch of different scenarios in the one article:

phantom title changes
dusty finishes
unrecognized title changes
fictional tournaments



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.18
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    I love the kayfabe "little information exists about the match/tournament" lines.


Well, after all, it was a steamy night in Rio when Pat Patterson won the Intercontinental Championship.

The stuff about Flair, Piper and the matches in the Dominican Republic was striking. The police officers actually pointing their guns at Piper and assaulting him with clubs?! Jeez, guys, it's entertainment!! That's kayfabe for you.

(edited by ekedolphin on 25.12.12 1507)


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I once saw an Owen Hart fake title change in the Summer of 94 (before SummerSlam).
It was at a TV taping and Owen celebrated for a long time with the belt, the heels came out the the ring and put him on their shoulders, the cameramen were in the ring. Then they just reversed it and gave it back to Bret.

I wonder if it was some kind of test run for him. It may have aired on Superstars or Wrestling Challenge.





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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      I love the kayfabe "little information exists about the match/tournament" lines.


    Well, after all, it was a steamy night in Rio when Pat Patterson won the Intercontinental Championship.

    (edited by ekedolphin on 25.12.12 1507)


Though that article told me something I didn't know -- he didn't actually "win" the Intercontinental title that night. He was the North American champ and won the South American title and then unified them into the Intercontinental Championship. Never knew that. I believe I've always heard it as a tourney to name a new IC Champ.
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I thought they usually said he won the tournament in Rio over Ted DiBiase.



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Apparently DiBiase was given the North American championship when he joined the company. I thought maybe they gave him the title to replace some NWA North Heavyweight Championship that he had, but no, he had won the NWA Tri-State North Heavyweight Championship in 1976, and did not win the Mid-South North Heavyweight Championship until after Patterson was already WWF Intercontinental Champion (DiBiase's first was in February 1980; Patterson's IC reign is claimed from September 1979).

Patterson also apparently lost that WWF North American championship to Seiji Sakaguchi, who defended it in Japan for a couple years until WWE abandoned it.

I'd love to hear the real story behind that all. DiBiase's run in Vince Sr.'s WWF was extremely short lived. Was he brought in to give some prestige to the new title they were creating? Or did he decide he didn't like the WWF, forcing them to hotshot the title to Patterson (and then they decided to basically change the name, because Intercontinental > North American)?
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For whatever it's worth, Wikipedia states that the South American Championship was fictional.



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Well yeah, why would any American promotion have a South American championship? But I assume the North American championship was real. I'm guessing that after creating the NA championship, they decided that they wanted to have the Intercontinental championship instead, and created the fake unification tournament to cover it.
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On every non-WWE story, they've got no problem in going with the behind the scenes story - the NWA had to manipulate footage because the tag champions had left town.

On ever WWE story, they stick with the kayfabe-olus story. They may question why the tag team titles were returned to the Hart Foundation after the ropes break, but they definitely do not explain WWF had decided to cut Neidhart, then changed their minds and decided to ignore the whole thing.

There's no point I'm making here. It's just a thing noticed.



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They should retcon the Chyna/Jericho reign as one of them being North American and one of them being the South American Champion.

Speaking of Jericho, the mention of his 15 minutes with the title in 2000 brought to mind the events of Fully Loaded 2000 and Unforgiven 2000.

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I only stuck around for the middle part, but what I saw I did not like. Aren't the tag titles held up and vacant in TNA about once a year now?
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