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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
I actually have this as one of my created scenarios for EWR, but the scary thing is that I think it might come true.

The part of it that's the least “out there” of all of them-- Brock Lesnar will be pushed as an unstoppable force for several months, appearing to be invincible--

But the man who will defeat him will be Triple H.

I can very easily see that happen.



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#2 Posted on
I think I already saw this movie, except the roles of Lesnar and Triple H were being played by Goldberg and Kevin Nash.


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#3 Posted on

    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    The part of it that's the least “out there” of all of them-- Brock Lesnar will be pushed as an unstoppable force for several months, appearing to be invincible--

    But the man who will defeat him will be Triple H.

    I can very easily see that happen.



I'm sure it's already booked that way.



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#4 Posted on
They did a similar thing with Jericho, putting him over Rock and Austin and having HHH be the guy who finally got the Undisputed Title off him. Except Jericho wasn't an unstoppable monster. And HHH feuded with Steph over his dog, not Jericho over the belt. Man, Wrestlemania sucked this year.
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#5 Posted on
Yes, that would suck indeed if Invincible H would destroy him.
UNLESS...it is built nicely, Trip puts him over and so on.
See, silly me, I am still hoping that (despite doing the politiks thing) HHH will one day return to his former self and be a bad ass who delivers great matches with lots of good psychology.




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#6 Posted on
Hasn't anybody else noticed that the best ring generals, the guys who can carry matches, are all best as heels? Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Dean Malenko, Triple H, Ric Flair, The Rock...all really good at dictating pace when they're heels. Some are also good as faces...but the best ring generals are heels. If HHH turned heel again, it'd be cool to have Brock and HHH gradually double-turn, that way EVIL HHH can cheat to barely beat young Brock...and put his ass over.



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Since: 20.6.02
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#7 Posted on
ekedolphin, I have some questions about the title of this thread:

Who is sucking up to HHH? Is anyone gaining favor with Paul Levesque for praising his in-ring work or diffusing speculation about unconfirmed backstage politiking?

I know, let's make anyone who disagrees with us stay quiet by automatically labelling them things like "suck-up" or "loser".

I'm kind of disappointed...I usually feel like I'm getting a good point of view when I read your posts.



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#8 Posted on
I said Lesnar would probably do the job to Triple H, too. But, here's the scenario I'd could see happening:

Bischoff said he's alread talking to Goldberg and is going to talk heavily with him when they go to Sturgis. Brock vs. Goldberg. Brock jobs. And then hell on earth ensues.

Here's what I'd like to see:

Eventually we go to Wrestlemania where Brock still holds the title and we get Brock/RVD. Only this time RVD wins, thus cementing his main event status.

I wasn't the biggest fan of RVD when he came in, but to be honest he's really grown on me. And he was the ONE guy on the Invasion team who should have come in and been a main eventer because of how over he was. Granted the WWE had no idea his respons would be that crazy. But, I wish they'd gotten on the bus with this guy earlier.



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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by Freeway420
    Hasn't anybody else noticed that the best ring generals, the guys who can carry matches, are all best as heels? Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Dean Malenko, Triple H, Ric Flair, The Rock...all really good at dictating pace when they're heels.


Because more often than not, the heel dictates the pace of the match.






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#10 Posted on
Well, Lesnar has to lose sooner or later. And at this point, it has to be someone top-card. Rock would be viable, but again, his schedule is to iffy to make any long feud worthwhile. Angle would be *perfect,* in my book. But it is gonna have to be someone with some street cred. And unfortunately, that includes HHH.



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#11 Posted on
Heels dictate the pace of the match. It's that simple. Here is a standard match:
Face starts of hot, gets in some offense.
Heel cheats to take advantage, contols middle (majority of match) portion with his offense.
Face makes superhuman comeback, hits finisher, wins.
It ain't rocket science.
The reason that some guys are also good as faces is because they understand the formula and are willing to sell for that middle portion. I mean, look at Rocky selling the headscissors last night. He looked in pain, but when Guerrero grabbed the ropes, he just started shaking all over the place and really making it look like the illegal leverage actually meant something. When was the last time HHH did that? Although, when H is a heel, he loves grabbing those ropes. I mean, dammit, I'm excited about this, cos now I get to see everyone whacked with the sledgehammer again. Well, provided H can still move/remembers how to work the KNEE~!





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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
WyldeWolf,

OK, let me rephrase that-- replace “suck-ups” with “apologists”. The point still stands. And you can't deny that there are people here that, whenever someone makes an even slightly negative comment about Triple H, are all “I don't want to hear that garbage, Triple H owns you and your mother.”



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#13 Posted on
I don't think people who dislike HHH/think he's a political bastard should necessarily shut up. I just don't think I should have to feel guilty for having a different opinion. HHH was my favorite wrestler for a long time, and he's still one of my favorites even if I do somewhat prefer Eddy and RVD these days. On the side of the apologists, I will offer this perspective, my own perspective, and nobody else needs to agree with me:

Paul Levesque, the man, is often treated as if he were an on-screen character by online fans. He has been designated a "heel" in terms of locker-room/backstage scenarios. The truth, however, is that the real world is not like wrestling. No one is 100% good or 100% bad. They're all a little of both. Maybe he shouldn't be in a relationship with Stephanie. After all, she's the bosses daughter, and it makes him look like he has an unfair influence. However, if he's honestly attracted to her (which I can understand, as I think she's a very attractive woman) and he might even *GASP* *HORROR* love her, is it fair to expect him to give up the happiness of his personal relationship so that others don't feel slighted? In my opinion, no, it's not fair. A lot of the online heat towards Trips tend to come from the fact that he's banging Vince's daughter, but this isn't some sort of short-term affair for influence. At this point, they've been together something like two years+. Having been married for two years myself and in a long-term relationship for three, I can tell you that the level of commitment and energy it takes to keep a steady relationship going that long requires genuine emotion rather than the simple ambition of a would-be world champion. Again, this is all just my opinion. I don't know much about their relationship...but then, neither do you. Presuming that he has influence because of his relationship with Stephanie is understandable. Presuming that his personal relationship is based on the desire FOR that influence is unfair.

All of that may have been unrelated to the point you made. But I've been thinking about it for a while, and I wanted to get it off my chest.

Oh, another thing, while I'm freeing my wrestling conscience: why is anyone surprised when wrestlers turn out to be assholes (see: Bradshaw, Austin, etc.) These are the same jocks and football players who beat the crap out of every nerd, geek and outcast they could get their hands on in high school. Is it such a surprise when they aren't all stand up guys when they grow up, perhaps especially the truly gifted athletes?

Anyway, rant mode off. Sorry 'bout that.



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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    WyldeWolf,

    OK, let me rephrase that-- replace “suck-ups” with “apologists”. The point still stands. And you can't deny that there are people here that, whenever someone makes an even slightly negative comment about Triple H, are all “I don't want to hear that garbage, Triple H owns you and your mother.”




And on the other side of the coin, you can't deny that there is people here that, only talk negative about HHH because it is the "in" thing to do.



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#15 Posted on
Why does the fact that I object to the "HHH=666" theory make me an apologist for him?

I have no opinion about it one way or another. What I DO object to is the IWC's presumption that everyone agrees "yes, HHH is a polticiking bastard. . .like Machiavelli, on with bigger muscles."

I don't. And I don't let people do my thinking for me, especially on a goddamned wrestling message board. THAT'S what I object to.

Don't assume. And don't try to tar everyone who disagrees with your "theory/scenario/whatever" as suck-ups or apologists.




(edited by Enojado Viento on 23.7.02 1908)


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