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Since: 25.4.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83

The Rock has a new interview up at WWE.com in which he states that he'll be coming back early next year and will be a part of Wrestlemania XX.

Wonder what his role will be ...



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.28
Possibly a Rock and Sock connection (Foley might go ahead with that?) with Steve Austin, fighting Evolution? I personally wouldn't mind seeing that.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83

I wouldn't mind seeing a Flair vs. Rock match just for the significance alone.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.81
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    I wouldn't mind seeing a Flair vs. Rock match just for the significance alone.


And in that case, even though the match would be pretty good, FUCK THE MATCH...I want that program just for the dueling promos. Because you KNOW Flair would bring his verbal A-Game out and Rock would be right there with him.

Hell, at WrestleMania they can stand in the center of the ring and do a Lincoln-Douglas format for 30 minutes and not even wrestle and I'd be on board with it.




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Since: 25.10.03
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Personally a match I want to see that has never happened is HBK vs. Rock.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
I most want to see The Rock vs. Bret Hart. But I guess that's not happening.



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Well you know something, Mean Gene...
Too bad they turned Cena face. Rock vs. Cena would be platinum just on the promos alone.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09
Well Rock wants the spotlight on him again so he can use it to propel his movie again...

He's a better heel than face anyways...

Right now, he's as bad as Hogan ever was at getting the spotlight back on him...



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WWE benefits much more from Rock coming back than Rock does by coming back; I don't see how you can describe his return as selfish and just trying to put the spotlight on himself. Let's not forget last year...during his two month run he put over everyone from Goldberg to The Hurricane...hardly sounds like a selfish man to me. Certainly not in the Hogan category.

As far as what to see...I'm with Yen, Rock vs. Cena would have been the way to go. Not only would Cena have gained major cred with a WM win over Rock (and you know that's how it'd be), he'd also be able to draw from whatever mainstream pub they're gonna get from the WM/Rock combination. Rock/Michaels and Rock/Flair, while they'd certainly be worthwhile, they wouldn't have near the novelty appeal of Rock/Hogan or Rock/Goldberg simply because Flair and Michaels have both been WWE regulars for so long now.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
Rock's selfish because he likes hearing his name chanted by his millions (and MILLIONS) of fans. D'uh!

As for Mania, right now as soon as I saw on 411 that Mick Foley and HHH shot down the idea of a singles match, but that Mick may be involved in a "tag match" of some kind, my first thought was a one-night-only reunion of the Rock & Sock Connection. I could easily see the two of them teaming up against HHH and Flair in a "Loser Leaves the WWE Forever" match. Of course, they'd probably end up losing that one if they put that stip on it.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
As much as I would have liked to see a Rock/Cena feud and a Foley singles match, after watching RAW last night, this idea of a Rock N Sock Connection reunion doesn't seem half bad. There already seems to be too many prolific singles matches lined up, and having a tag team match with main eventers would make it stand out. Plus any ring rust from Rock and Foley wouldn't be as evident.

I would personally love to see RockNSock vs Orton/Flair, just to see Flair's interactions with both Rock and Foley, and because they're already leaning on giving Orton and Foley something together. However, the likely pick if a tag match were to occur would be Orton/HHH vs RockNSock, which would be fine with me as well.

I just must stress that if they do bring Rock N Sock together, I think what we saw last night should be the last time we see the two of them in the same ring until closely prior to Wrestlemania. The more we see it, the less special it becomes.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.48
Oddly enough, none of the actual wrestling-related news has perked my interest as much as this one little blurb did:

"-- Today's Washington Post Style section discusses The Rock's upcoming role as an aspiring actor bodyguard in the sequal to Danny DeVito's Get Shorty. [Credit: PWTorch.com]"

There's going to be a movie adaptation of Be Cool? Sweet.



Anyway. We shouldn't get our hopes up yet; for all we know they're going to make Rock wrestle Mark Henry or something.
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The Rock's probably extremely rusty now, so they'll have to let him beat a few mid-carders before headlining anything. That also means that WWE should hold the whole Rock n Sock Connection return back until around No Way Out. I agree 100% with Paragon, but no doubt Vince'll think up some stupid gimmick to do with Austin and Rock teaming, or a Heel Rock. Who knows...
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
I would much rather see Rock vs Orton. 3rd Generation Superstar vs 3rd Generation Superstar. The Rock would be an incredible claim for the Legend Killer. And then you could also have some Flair/Rock promos. A win over Rock at Mania would make Orton a main eventer instantly. I would like to see him kill some more legends before then. As much as everyone wants Steamboat vs Flair at Mania I would think it would make more sense for Orton to get a duke over him somehow before he got The Rock.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.36
    Originally posted by SeVen
    I would much rather see Rock vs Orton. 3rd Generation Superstar vs 3rd Generation Superstar. The Rock would be an incredible claim for the Legend Killer. And then you could also have some Flair/Rock promos. A win over Rock at Mania would make Orton a main eventer instantly. I would like to see him kill some more legends before then.


That never even crossed my mind... Imagine this: RVD vs Orton, Foley Guest Referee. Rock interferes while Foley is out, allowing RVD to get the win. Flair comes in (Although he should be HURT from his match here in Perth) and starts a verbal assault on the rock, adding in one or two "wooos" to sound good. The Rock comes back with some witty comment that sends the crowds wild, and when Flair starts taunting Rock to come closer, Orton comes behind with the RKO! That could make a great start!

    Originally posted by SeVen
    As much as everyone wants Steamboat vs Flair at Mania I would think it would make more sense for Orton to get a duke over him somehow before he got The Rock.


I don't want to see Steamboat and Flair, that would be terrible for WWE!
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    Originally posted by Amazing Telephone
    -- Today's Washington Post Style section discusses The Rock's upcoming role as an aspiring actor bodyguard in the sequal to Danny DeVito's Get Shorty. [Credit: PWTorch.com]"

    There's going to be a movie adaptation of Be Cool? Sweet


Obviously you know what a no-brainer bit of casting that was if you've read the book, because I know when I read it I thought the bodyguard was completely written with The Rock in mind.

Of course, there's a twist, but I'm not giving that away.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.19
I'm sorry, but I think that WWE draws more and benefits more from a Rock-Cena match than a Rock & Sock reunion.

If you want Foley in a tag team match, I'd give him an RVD or an Austin as a partner.

Rock-Flair would be cool, and Rock-Orton sounds nice, but I like the idea of Orton-HHH and Flair-Maven (w/ Steamboat) better.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    WWE benefits much more from Rock coming back than Rock does by coming back; I don't see how you can describe his return as selfish and just trying to put the spotlight on himself. Let's not forget last year...during his two month run he put over everyone from Goldberg to The Hurricane...hardly sounds like a selfish man to me. Certainly not in the Hogan category.


I'm not hoppin' on this so much to defend Hogan as to clear up some rivisionist stuff on the Rock. First of all, he does need WWE, as clearly evidenced by the fact that Rundown recovered only a little more than half its budget at the box office. It cost about 85 mill and only made about 47.5 of it back, so Rock's mantle of "great action star" will have to wait until a little something known as mathematics backs up the title. Personally I feel if movies were allowed to stay in theatres longer these days more of them would be profitable, but nowadays it's two months in, take a month off, push a DVD, and under those conditions Rock's a box office failure. Particularly in Hollywood where you're only as good as your last picture. Scorpion King was a successful spinoff, but it's yesterday's news as far as the pages of Variety are concerned.

Secondly, he didn't put over Hurricane. If Triple H lost to Hurricane by count-out would you say he put him over? You'd be wrong there, too. It was a cute little angle but Hurricane is not any bigger a star for it.

Second "everyone from" implies he put over, well, everyone as well as Hurricane and Goldberg. The only other people he wrestled during this time were Hogan and Jeff Hardy (both of whom he beat).

Finally, did you SEE what Rock did to Goldberg at Backlash? Did you see their feud? Goldberg took months to recover from "being put over" by the Rock. He made him look like a complete blithering idiot, then played into the cheers he wasn't supposed to be getting at the PPV match. I'm a Rock fan, but what he did there definitely puts him in Hogan territory. And it sure as hell wasn't putting him over. He jobbed, but he didn't put over anyone the last time he came back.

If Rock ever does become the box office star he was supposed to with Rundown, I for one will be surprised if he comes back at all. Do you think Rock was on Letterman saying he wasn't going to go back to wrestling ever because he thought it'd be funny? He meant it, and with all the fellatio he was getting on every newspaper's entertainment page for his movie, he had every reason to believe he was never going to need wrestling. But Rundown loses all that money and next chance he gets, here he is, in a land where he is king instead of just another commoner, and has five million people to pimp his next film to. And it's just because he "loves that electricity" or he "has the business in his blood". Or maybe that's all just a big coincidence.

But can you really call that a coincidence? No you can't. Or can you?

No. No you can't.


edit: Jivesoul you're right. It was a rollup. But my point remains, it didn't do anything for hurricane.


(edited by Hogan's My Dad on 10.12.03 1848)

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.24
Didn't Hurricane pin Rock, roll him up or something? That's how I remember it. I don't think you could ever accuse Rock of not putting guys over, considering the stature he has outside of wrestling (albeit because of wrestling).
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Since: 20.8.03
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
With a lot of fans, the Rock could appear on WWE television once every three months, lay down in the middle of the ring, and let every wrestler on the roster pin him one by one each and every time...and yet there would still be bitterness about his jump to Hollywood. I suppose that should be expected.

I hold no ill feelings towards the Rock. He has done everything you could possibly do in wrestling, has done almost everything you could ask of a good company man, and has given us wrestling fans lots of great memories in the process. Sure, three years from now when Rock's movie career reaches an end, he'll be crawling back to the federation just like the rest of them. But you can't blame him for trying. I know I won't.

As for his last run, the flaws being mentioned are primarily booking's fault. Let's face it, the Hurricane doesn't have main event written on him. But what that victory did was potentially allow the Hurricane to move up the midcard ranks. It was up to the writers to follow up on that opportunity in the weeks following that match. They didn't. They're the ones that failed, not the Rock.

I agree that the Goldberg/Rock feud was a complete disaster. But understand this..the Rock had a role to fill in the segments he was given. Was it his fault that he was the one who ended up looking like an even bigger star, all while Goldberg looked like a complete fool? Is it the Rock's fault, or is it the fault of Vince McMahon and his yes men who were watching and writing that crap each and every week and doing the exact opposite of what made Goldberg in WCW? The Rock had a duty to do. He played up his segments on RAW, and then did the j-o-b at Backlash. I don't see the problem.

I understand any frustration of Rock not making any stars during his last run, but for one..he has a history of laying down for wrestlers he had no right to lay down for. But he did it because he was asked to do it, and that's often what HHH, Austin and Taker haven't done in the past. And two, more than anything, Rock was not brought in to put people over--he was brought in to put asses in those seats. And he did exactly that during that stretch.
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