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(Hey, I can finally use the Pirate Icon for something!)

Pirating, I suppose, is wrong. (blog.wired.com)

The RIAA won thier court case today against Jammie Thomas, a Minnesotta woman who was the first file sharing defendant to go to trial instead of making a deal.

24 songs (out of over 1700!) on her harddrive is costing her $222,000 in 'damages' to the record companies.

Good thing I don't use KaZaa. Hehehe...
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See also: Internet & Computers thread from yesterday - ARSTechnica version of this story is linked here (arstechnica.com).

I take issue with your thread title and hyperlink text, in that no pirating was actually proven - only that they jury decided that Thomas did indeed share out the 24 tracks in question. There wasn't even proof that anybody downloaded them from her. We can thank the jury instructions for that as it greatly reduced the burned of proof on the part of the RIAA to claim actual monetary damages.

As it stands, the RIAA could have "won" $150,000 per song (times 24) so $222,000 probably isn't exactly what they were hoping for given the cost of the trial. It's also not exactly the minimum ($750 per, or $18K) so who knows where the figure came from - it works out to $9250 per.

Surely it's enough to give Thomas a lot of trouble.

It may help the RIAA with a campaign of fear but there are so many other ways to anonymously share now that I can't see it making a dent in the number of people out there doing what they're doing.



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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

"The Mexican rebels aren't running it back for touchdowns, so it's close." (thecubsfan)


So what's the lesson here? Leech unrepentantly?

Aren't the lawsuits a money pit for the RIAA anyway? Don't see them going forward with too many more.



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Here is the problem to me. I understand sharing music, books, and other intellectual property, however, with digital technology and the internet, protection of one's intellectual property is almost impossible. What is going on now is thievery, pure and simple. As someone in a university setting where this is of great importance, I wish I had an answer. On one hand I think peoiple should be allowed to share music, etc. but on the other how do the individuals who produce this intellectual property insure they are fairly compensated?



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Yeah, I'm kinda torn too. I mean it's not like we didn't all tape stuff and pass it between friends making copies well before this Internet sharing stuff hit the bigtime. Now because it's "better quality" and easier to share with more people, they go after us. Which makes me wonder what they do about digital radio. Will it be illegal for me to tape a song off there? Probably.

And this lady I see tried to hide it by replacing her hard drive. Not that I condone being sneaky but she would have been smart to replace the NIC as well.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    Here is the problem to me. I understand sharing music, books, and other intellectual property, however, with digital technology and the internet, protection of one's intellectual property is almost impossible. What is going on now is thievery, pure and simple. As someone in a university setting where this is of great importance, I wish I had an answer. On one hand I think peoiple should be allowed to share music, etc. but on the other how do the individuals who produce this intellectual property insure they are fairly compensated?


I think labeling this as "thievery" is a bit of an over-simplification. To beigin with, the labels don't operate on fair footing. IMO, the RIAA has brought a lot of this on themselves via the mode by which they operate. Certainly, obtaining music by deliberately circumventing payment isn't the most "ethical" way, but I would argue that some of this is "tit for tat".

As an aside, every few years there seems to be yet another class action lawsuit brought against the music industry for price fixing. And it seems yet another one is in the works:

Class action lawsuit filed against music industry

    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Which makes me wonder what they do about digital radio. Will it be illegal for me to tape a song off there? Probably.


They were trying to require DRM for webcasts in the early stages of those negotiations - until congress told them to knock it off. I would imagine some attempt at a DRM for digital radio maybe in the works, but I certainly haven't heard of anything as of yet.






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