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Tonight on TV I saw the PSA's by Hollywood actors against piracy and downloading movies/music online. I just want to say that I don't personally download movies. I doubt there is anyone here who has NOT downloaded music or video clips online. But these PSA's just piss me off. I don't need some Canadian billionaire like James Cameron telling me I'm making him broke. Oh poor Ben Affleck, he might not be able to afford his divorce with Jennifer "It's Turkey time...come on, gobble gobble." Lopez in about two years. Yeah Ben Affleck telling us to not break law, when he is SUCH a law-abiding citizen himself with all the drinking and driving like the dumb untalented fuck that he is. I guess Cameron won't be able to wipe his ass with c-notes next week and will have to use fifty's instead. The other crew people losing money? Well why don't all these actors and filmmakers who are mostly socialists and liberals take their 100 million dollar paychecks and back end profits and share some of the fucking wealth to the hardworking crew people who are losing money because of PIRACY!

Here's what Hollywood does NOT want you to know. The reason that the movie industry is losing money and ticket prices keep going up is because the movies suck complete and utter shit. The product is bad so people aren't going to watch it as much. Why should I watch some hack filmmaking like Tomb Raider 2 or T3 when I can just T2 all comfy at home in my recliner with audio commentary? Why go to the movies at all, with all these dumbass sequels and inferior remakes when people can just watch their favorite movies at home in high quality at readily affordable prices when a matinee now costs $6 for a piece of crap like Charlie's Angels 2. Most theatrical releases now are just commercials for DVD anyway.

And fuck the Hollywood establishment. Its good to know that deep down under all the happy, liberal, socialist, attitudes, all you care about is getting the best limos, and living in profilin', immoral lives. What happened to filmmakers not caring about box office and just wanting to share art with others? It's all bullshit huh? Well I got to pay the bills too.

(edited by The Vile1 on 25.7.03 0002)



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On the rare occasion I turn on the TV to something other then wrestling or PBS (Yes Im a walking paradox) I can't help but notice that Hollywood is constantly breaking Box Office records. While I don't know the actual attendance numbers, I doubt that the problem lies in income, but instead in production values. Alot of that production I feel is unnecessary.

How much money did they throw into (Insert Summer Blockbuster here) to make that bimbo (Insert actress here) look like a 21st century Bruce Lee? How much money do they throw into an explosion scene to make the explosion look so real, it looks fake? Yeah, I know this is the digital age and all, but Hollywood may be moving too fast for it's own good. Is it really necessary to see each individual piece of derbies from an exploding truck falling in the viewers direction?

Of course the scapegoat will be us on the net. The music industry deems us spawn of Hitler, all the while turning a blind eye to Clear Channel, Payola, eMpTVee, and case study generalizations. Now it's Hollywood's turn. Once they rid the world of the malevolent Kazza users, they will have us believing Legally Blonde is an artistic breakthrough not seen since Citizen Kane. Much like Eminem=Mozart.

(edited by Nag on 25.7.03 0422)


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It was bound to happen sooner or later

Yes, all the movie folks named above are filthy rich. Yes, box office records are being broken left and right. No, downloading movies and mp3s is not going to make any of the above mentioned people poor.

But if you really think about it, none of these things keep downloading someone else's intellectual property for free from being illegal. Dont like it? Go fight city hall. But bashing these people because they're asking you to stop stealing their stuff is kinda silly.

Yes, I download this stuff all the time and the RIAA suing mp3 downloaders does have me semi-nervous (just like everyone else, I'm sure), but the claim that "It's ok to steal their stuff and break the law because they're already rich and I hate them" just doesnt make sense.



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I can name three movie theaters in my area, big theaters, that have opened up within a one year span of each other over the last couple of years, and there's hardly a line in front of two of them on weekends.

Home theater systems have improved vastly over the last few years, and as another poster said, we can always pop in the vastly superior T2 any time we want instead of going out and seeing T3.

And, yeah, assholes shooting movies in the theater and putting them on the Internet. Honestly, I've never had the patience to download a movie online, but there are lots of people out there who do. Gotta love that decreased resolution.

Increasing ticket prices, necessary or not, must also drive people away. I mean, if you can spend $15-$20 on a DVD to watch on your flatscreen TV and you can watch that DVD any time you want after buying it, that sure beats $8 for a single viewing, doesn't it?

I still go out and see movies on a regular basis (or try to) and nothing beats seeing a great movie on the big screen, but there's so many things besides piracy affecting it. Then again, when I see movies like Matrix Reloaded pulling in $90,000,000 on opening weekend, maybe the problem isn't as big as people are making it out to be.
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I just want to point out to DJ Frosty Freeze that I never said it was ok to steal someone else's intellectual property. Again I do not download movies. However, this whole internet piracy thing is not the big problem like Hollywood is telling us it is. It is simply a cover for their poor product. Look at the Hulk, that bootleg of the workprint got released online right before the movie came out, but Hulk still opened big. Matrix Reloaded also opened huge but tanked in its second weekend (Memoral Day weekend no less). So the easiest thing is to have all the whining superstars find their little scape goat while not coming to terms with the real fact, THE MOVIES BLOW! So its a bit frustrating. Movie attendance is going down every year, while a bargain matinee price keeps going up. The DVD and home theatre industry is more responsible for that than piracy.

As for downloading, why don't the movie studios talk to the computer companies. Computer companies who give people downloading software and hardware already installed on their home computers. Someone please tell me why you have a DVD burner or CD writer for something other than downloading? I thought so.

(edited by The Vile1 on 25.7.03 0914)



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The real reasons why the movie industry is losing money ...

(Actually, given his recent output, I can save time and just use this as a reference.)



(edited by vsp on 25.7.03 1021)


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X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! Jkyle.com says:

    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Yes, all the movie folks named above are filthy rich. Yes, box office records are being broken left and right. No, downloading movies and mp3s is not going to make any of the above mentioned people poor.

    But if you really think about it, none of these things keep downloading someone else's intellectual property for free from being illegal.

They're rich, I'm not, and if I had the money I'd buy everything legally. But I don't, so it's more or less a game of electronic Robin Hood. I'm picky about what I DL. If you're an asshole (METALLICA) I'm not wasting my limited resources on putting more cash in your pocket, I'll just take it. If the net wasn't around your average Kazaa user would just be using casettes and taping off the radio or directly off their friends albums. If anything, the invention of file sharing has taken the personal touch out of piracy.

Also, I really REALLY wished I hadn't got suckered into paying for Matrix 2 so if there's anyone who wants to break in the house of those existentialistic wannabe tool brothers, contact me and let's get everything AND the kitchen sink.

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(edited by AngryJohnny on 25.7.03 0135)


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"I don't need some Canadian billionaire like James Cameron telling me I'm making him broke. Oh poor Ben Affleck, he might not be able to afford his divorce with Jennifer "It's Turkey time...come on, gobble gobble." Lopez in about two years. Yeah Ben Affleck telling us to not break law, when he is SUCH a law-abiding citizen himself with all the drinking and driving like the dumb untalented fuck that he is. I guess Cameron won't be able to wipe his ass with c-notes next week and will have to use fifty's instead."

Well Gee Fuckin' Whizz, let's just go rob their big glittering billion dollar mansions if they're such fucking pigs!

"Here's what Hollywood does NOT want you to know. The reason that the movie industry is losing money and ticket prices keep going up is because the movies suck complete and utter shit."

Utter bullshit. I can name ten movies this year alone that rocked the Casnah, but nobody bothered to go see them because people are too lazy to get up off their fat asses and search them out. Don't pin the blame on movie-makers because all you go and see are the production-line blockbusters that are shown at every screen from here to Buttfuck.

"Well I got to pay the bills too."

Why don't you sell crack then? Or steal a new car when yours breaks down? Same principal, I guess. "Oooh, I can't afford to go to the movies!" Then you DON'T FUCKING GO. And if the films being downloaded are such a piece of shit, then why do you even care?

"As for downloading, why don't the movie studios talk to the computer companies. Computer companies who give people downloading software and hardware already installed on their home computers. Someone please tell me why you have a DVD burner or CD writer for something other than downloading? I thought so."

As for handgun murders, why don't we just arrest the guys that sell 'em and let the actual perpetrators off the hook? Can someone tell me what purpose a handgun has other than to cause people injury? Point made.

"Most theatrical releases now are just commercials for DVD anyway."

*Shakes head in utter disbelief*

Again, most shitty cookie-cutter blockbusters, which you seem to despise, are commercials for DVDs. And yet you seem soooo riled up at the Hollywood system you so badly want to fuck for making films that don't appeal to you. Here's a free tip, slick: instead of moaning about movies you don't like, find some that do. And don't try and justify downloading by saying "Well, they're all stinking rich anyways", because that's pretty much saying "I condone theft".

And before you start attacking me, no, this isn't a moral bug up my ass. I've just had my first script optioned for pre-production, and while I'm sure it won't play anywhere near you guys-or anywhere at all if it doesn't make a distribution deal-it pisses me off to think there are people sitting out there thinking "Well, these guys are earning shitloads anyways, so it won't hurt for me to take this for free". Because it's not just the big movies that get sapped away on the 'net. These days, it's anything that garners a theatrical release. I mean Christ, that's like jumping a taxi without paying, or telling a plumber to get lost after he's fixed your pipes. YOU WOULDN'T DO IT.

And besides, where's the damn fun in watching a movie like T3 or Hulk on your computer screen?




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For reference, I suck as much music from the Internet teat as anyone, but I have downloaded exactly two movies from P2P apps:

* Jackass: The Movie (which I'd already seen in the theater, and the DVD (which I've since bought) wasn't out yet)

* Ken Park (because, quite frankly, I'll be shocked if I _EVER_ get an opportunity to see it in a theater, given the controversy surrounding it)





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Two points:

1) Stealing is not the same as violating copyright. One is a civil violation and the other is a criminal violation. If the law can recognize the difference, so should we.

2) You shouldn't violate other people's copyright.



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I always try to put the shoe on the other foot. If I had made something worthwhile like music or movies, I would want to be handsomely compensated for such activities. I think it's a slippery slope you find yourself on when you can rationalize using this property without compensating the artist. Where do you draw the line? I may be in the minority, but I have never downloaded any movie or music from the internet. I purchase all my music on CDs.



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Here's my take on it. I used to download music ALL the time when I had internet at my home. Why? Well, one of the three reasons.

A)It's music you wouldn't find anywhere else. (example: parodies of songs like the "Mexican Thong Song. Or underground bands that haven't released CDs)

B)I want to hear what other songs on a CD sound like besides the ones on the radio. I've bought countless CDs where the only good songs are the ones you can hear in the preview thing at stores. If I like the other songs, I actually do go buy the CD itself.

C)There is only one good song on the CD and the rest are complete shit. Why should I have to pay sixteen dollars for one good song?

I never did download movies (since they took too long anyways). But I was planning to get music videos, since you can't really find them anywhere but TV. And the ones I want are NEVER on TV anymore or they're too explicit for TV. But oh well...





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OK, working in the motion picture biz, I get a certain amount of info presented to me daily.

Here's what I can say:

-My movie theatre is doing less business than this time last year, and even this time two years ago (but that's a result of three new multiplexes opening up three years ago, flooding the market with too many theatres).
-Films are generally having one or two big weekends, then fizzling out (with the exception of Finding Nemo, which ruled).
-Films are generally still breaking even, as digital means of producing films make SFX a lot less expensive.
-More shitty films are getting made.
-Affleck looks like a grape.

(edited by Freeway420 on 25.7.03 1456)


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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    "I don't need some Canadian billionaire like James Cameron telling me I'm making him broke. Oh poor Ben Affleck, he might not be able to afford his divorce with Jennifer "It's Turkey time...come on, gobble gobble." Lopez in about two years. Yeah Ben Affleck telling us to not break law, when he is SUCH a law-abiding citizen himself with all the drinking and driving like the dumb untalented fuck that he is. I guess Cameron won't be able to wipe his ass with c-notes next week and will have to use fifty's instead."

    Well Gee Fuckin' Whizz, let's just go rob their big glittering billion dollar mansions if they're such fucking pigs!

    "Here's what Hollywood does NOT want you to know. The reason that the movie industry is losing money and ticket prices keep going up is because the movies suck complete and utter shit."

    Utter bullshit. I can name ten movies this year alone that rocked the Casnah, but nobody bothered to go see them because people are too lazy to get up off their fat asses and search them out. Don't pin the blame on movie-makers because all you go and see are the production-line blockbusters that are shown at every screen from here to Buttfuck.

    "Well I got to pay the bills too."

    Why don't you sell crack then? Or steal a new car when yours breaks down? Same principal, I guess. "Oooh, I can't afford to go to the movies!" Then you DON'T FUCKING GO. And if the films being downloaded are such a piece of shit, then why do you even care?

    "As for downloading, why don't the movie studios talk to the computer companies. Computer companies who give people downloading software and hardware already installed on their home computers. Someone please tell me why you have a DVD burner or CD writer for something other than downloading? I thought so."

    As for handgun murders, why don't we just arrest the guys that sell 'em and let the actual perpetrators off the hook? Can someone tell me what purpose a handgun has other than to cause people injury? Point made.

    "Most theatrical releases now are just commercials for DVD anyway."

    *Shakes head in utter disbelief*

    Again, most shitty cookie-cutter blockbusters, which you seem to despise, are commercials for DVDs. And yet you seem soooo riled up at the Hollywood system you so badly want to fuck for making films that don't appeal to you. Here's a free tip, slick: instead of moaning about movies you don't like, find some that do. And don't try and justify downloading by saying "Well, they're all stinking rich anyways", because that's pretty much saying "I condone theft".

    And before you start attacking me, no, this isn't a moral bug up my ass. I've just had my first script optioned for pre-production, and while I'm sure it won't play anywhere near you guys-or anywhere at all if it doesn't make a distribution deal-it pisses me off to think there are people sitting out there thinking "Well, these guys are earning shitloads anyways, so it won't hurt for me to take this for free". Because it's not just the big movies that get sapped away on the 'net. These days, it's anything that garners a theatrical release. I mean Christ, that's like jumping a taxi without paying, or telling a plumber to get lost after he's fixed your pipes. YOU WOULDN'T DO IT.

    And besides, where's the damn fun in watching a movie like T3 or Hulk on your computer screen?



I'm not justifying download. Why won't you people actually read what I'm typing. I'm pissed because Hollywood is pushing downloading and piracy as the cause for Hollywood losing money and raising ticket prices. The problems being from the glut of growing, bad DISPOSEABLE films. Are there great films out there? Yes, and I have seen them. But they are being replaced by Hollywood trash and endless amounts of big budget, poorly made sequels and inferior remakes. What I want to clarify is that I am pissed that Hollywood has to be all high and mighty and tell people to "STOP PIRACY" when piracy isn't the real problem but the amount of medicore films and sequels that no one wants to see in the theatres.

And how'd this handguns thing start, I wasn't talking about handguns.

Again, I do NOT download movies. But I don't want to hear high powered celebrities giving me the "Do as I say, not as I do" PSA's because they are guilty of every crime they use their influence and money to speak out against.




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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
Vile1, once upon a time Hollywood was full of people who wanted to tell stories to make a difference in people's lives. This was around wartime, when everyone needed something to take their mind off all the crap that was going down. Nowadays, filmmaking is much more a business than an art, which sucks. As such, it's not good business to give away FREE STUFF to everyone. Hence, if they're not getting money from you when you watch or buy the film, it's bad for business. It's a lot easier to nip this in the bud now with annoying PSA from Affleck & Jimmy Cameron than to wait until piracy becomes a huge problem and they actually do have to go back to making films for the sake of making good films, instead of making them to make money.



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#16 Posted on
A large portion of the movies out there are serials and remakes so while they aren't that creative or original in storyline, they score big on consuming your entertainment dollars and free time. A good portion of them suck too unless you or your friends and family are hooked on them, then it doesn't matter. The serials also attract a lot
of pirates and collectors with their guaranteed audience.

As for celebrity PSA's about piracy, they seem as effective as their anti-drug/drinking PSA's. They annoy the majority who don't do it and attempt to strike a nerve with the ones that do.






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I have a friend who was giving a presentation to a high school class last winter about Right to Use ethics & such. The audience was freshmen & sophmores at a Catholic high school. My friend was actually suprised at the response. He was expecting "Hey, its no big deal, the artists make plenty of money anyway." What he got instead was more of "Of course its all right to do. The stuff wouldn't be available on the internet if it weren't OK to download." (My friend does have enough of a clue that they weren't just playing him -- that was the kids' real thinking.) It hadn't even occurred to them that there might be an ethical question involved. And this is in spite of the Nabster/Metallica stuff.

Thursday was the first time I'd seen a commercial spot on the subject. Whether it was effective or not (That's debatable.), what I glean from my friend's experience is that apparently it is a subject that needs to be raised, particularly among that target demographic.
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#18 Posted on
Joel Stein had a great column on this very subject in the April 18, 2003 Entertainment Weekly

Don't know if it's available online, so I'll just quote my favorite paragraph:



    "I found the most convincing part to be the working stiffs," said Valenti of the PSA, "the guys who have a modest home and kids who go to public schools. They make $75,000 to $100,000 a year. That's not much to live on. I don't have to tell you that," he said, vastly overestimating the U.S. poverty level and what I get paid for this column. I vowed right then not only to pirate a movie but also to find a way to use the Internet to steal directly from Jack Valenti's home.


This is my philosophy; if there's a movie I'm slightly interested in watching, I'll download it, then when it hits my local uber video store Click Here (rentertainment.com) I'll rent it if I liked it. That way local business gets my money instead of a huge corporation.

I'll also point out that I usually go to a movie a weekend, so I'm not hurting the studios that much.

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You know, I remember when there was a big deal made about CASETTE TAPES and how you could tape off the radio and that would kill the music industry.

The movie studios need to find ways to adapt with the changes in technology and society. Would people rather pay their $8 to download the movie for a viewing instead of going to the theatre? I know I might check out more movies that way.

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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by The Vile1

      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      "I don't need some Canadian billionaire like James Cameron telling me I'm making him broke. Oh poor Ben Affleck, he might not be able to afford his divorce with Jennifer "It's Turkey time...come on, gobble gobble." Lopez in about two years. Yeah Ben Affleck telling us to not break law, when he is SUCH a law-abiding citizen himself with all the drinking and driving like the dumb untalented fuck that he is. I guess Cameron won't be able to wipe his ass with c-notes next week and will have to use fifty's instead."

      Well Gee Fuckin' Whizz, let's just go rob their big glittering billion dollar mansions if they're such fucking pigs!

      "Here's what Hollywood does NOT want you to know. The reason that the movie industry is losing money and ticket prices keep going up is because the movies suck complete and utter shit."

      Utter bullshit. I can name ten movies this year alone that rocked the Casnah, but nobody bothered to go see them because people are too lazy to get up off their fat asses and search them out. Don't pin the blame on movie-makers because all you go and see are the production-line blockbusters that are shown at every screen from here to Buttfuck.

      "Well I got to pay the bills too."

      Why don't you sell crack then? Or steal a new car when yours breaks down? Same principal, I guess. "Oooh, I can't afford to go to the movies!" Then you DON'T FUCKING GO. And if the films being downloaded are such a piece of shit, then why do you even care?

      "As for downloading, why don't the movie studios talk to the computer companies. Computer companies who give people downloading software and hardware already installed on their home computers. Someone please tell me why you have a DVD burner or CD writer for something other than downloading? I thought so."

      As for handgun murders, why don't we just arrest the guys that sell 'em and let the actual perpetrators off the hook? Can someone tell me what purpose a handgun has other than to cause people injury? Point made.

      "Most theatrical releases now are just commercials for DVD anyway."

      *Shakes head in utter disbelief*

      Again, most shitty cookie-cutter blockbusters, which you seem to despise, are commercials for DVDs. And yet you seem soooo riled up at the Hollywood system you so badly want to fuck for making films that don't appeal to you. Here's a free tip, slick: instead of moaning about movies you don't like, find some that do. And don't try and justify downloading by saying "Well, they're all stinking rich anyways", because that's pretty much saying "I condone theft".

      And before you start attacking me, no, this isn't a moral bug up my ass. I've just had my first script optioned for pre-production, and while I'm sure it won't play anywhere near you guys-or anywhere at all if it doesn't make a distribution deal-it pisses me off to think there are people sitting out there thinking "Well, these guys are earning shitloads anyways, so it won't hurt for me to take this for free". Because it's not just the big movies that get sapped away on the 'net. These days, it's anything that garners a theatrical release. I mean Christ, that's like jumping a taxi without paying, or telling a plumber to get lost after he's fixed your pipes. YOU WOULDN'T DO IT.

      And besides, where's the damn fun in watching a movie like T3 or Hulk on your computer screen?



    I'm not justifying download. Why won't you people actually read what I'm typing. I'm pissed because Hollywood is pushing downloading and piracy as the cause for Hollywood losing money and raising ticket prices. The problems being from the glut of growing, bad DISPOSEABLE films. Are there great films out there? Yes, and I have seen them. But they are being replaced by Hollywood trash and endless amounts of big budget, poorly made sequels and inferior remakes. What I want to clarify is that I am pissed that Hollywood has to be all high and mighty and tell people to "STOP PIRACY" when piracy isn't the real problem but the amount of medicore films and sequels that no one wants to see in the theatres.

    And how'd this handguns thing start, I wasn't talking about handguns.

    Again, I do NOT download movies. But I don't want to hear high powered celebrities giving me the "Do as I say, not as I do" PSA's because they are guilty of every crime they use their influence and money to speak out against.



What I want to know is what you have against Canadians, liberals, and socialists? James Cameron shouldn't tell you what to do because he's rich and Canadian? Most of these people are socialists? What in the blazing fuck sense does it make for a millionaire to be a socialist? Socialism is state-ownership of industry and capital. Why would a greedy millionaire want that? You know Stalin, Hitler, Lenin? Men who historically speaking are linked (somewhat erroneously) to socialism? Well none of those guys wanted all the cash in the world, most of the derided monetary gain. So get your internal logic right before you go around complaining that don't read what you're typing.

I don't see why a person can argue against what he sees as greed without bringing politics into it. What are words like liberal and Canadian be used as arguments against these celebs? I know republicans use "liberal" as an insult but what's it got to do with movie stars?

And this whole "make better movies" argument is weak. There was a time when the motion picture was the only entertainment of its kind and had little competition. Then TV came along in the 50's and almost killed movies. But film survived. I think it will continue to survive regardless of what "piracy" is coming around. I could download movies, but I'd rather spend my 30 bucks and have a night out with my friends then stay inside and watch choppy-quality downloads while mentally masturbating about the fact that I'm getting something for free. Fact is, people don't want their work given away when they could make money if people, you know, paid for it.

Agree or disagree, let's not complain against their rights to at least make an argument.













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