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The W - Pro Wrestling - the real reason SMACKDOWN is where it is?!? (Page 2)
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Since: 25.4.03
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
    Originally posted by Phantom
    I think Smackdown could really benefit from a strong lynchpin heel, but right now injuries and a depleted roster have made that difficult.

    For as much as he was blasted earlier in the year, HHH and Evolution have been a solid faction that have really given a good foundation for the upper card. Likewise, the Angle/Heyman alliance resulted in a strong faction, with Angle, Big Show, and Team Angle united to cause problems for Brock and Benoit last year.

    I think they could probably benefit from having someone form a new heel stable on Smackdown. Heyman’s got a good start on this, with the Dudleys under his wing already. Add in either a heel RVD and possibly the Undertaker and you’ve got a strong force of top-level heels to cause problems. Bradshaw could also be a candidate to head up a stable of his own, possibly recruiting guys like Mordecai, Mark Jindrak, Luther Reigns and Chavo Guerrero.

I agree with you. Smackdown needs that dominate heel group ... I look at Smackdown as just a bunch of singles competitors getting lost in the shuffle.

I personally think Evolution is the main glue holding RAW together ... sure, they get a bit too much exposure, but they've elevated guys like Orton & Batista to almost main-event status, helped solidify Benoit as a dominate champion (for the most part) and continue to work some good matches with Jericho, Edge and Shelton.

I think Rhyno should have been left on Smackdown with Heyman. I thought they were headed that way with him during the whole Heyman GM/feud with Cena era.

But I could deal with a heel RVD ...

Go banana.

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
I'm not sure if Orton and Batista have become near mani-eventers because of Evolution, or because they've been able to work with higher level talent. Maybe its the same thing, but being around Flair and HHH for an extended period of time has got to be a huge way to learn.

I'm enjoying Batista in a big, big way, and I'm wondering how much of it is due to HHH booking him in lots of tag matches to showcase his strengths.

Back on point, SD! needs a shot in the arm, and maybe they're trying to build a stable around heel Taker and Dudleys, but with Heyman the focal point. The problem is the Dudleys are stale and the roster is full of midcarders who will take more than just time to look like credible maineventers.

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.74
Analogy time.

"Star power" is a crock. Smackdown can look to the NBA's Detroit Pistons for inspiration, because the way to put on an entertaining show is to use the roster efficiently, booking guys to their strengths rather than to a generic template.

Eddie Guerrero is a populist face, in the vein of Stone Cold, but with an ethnic flair. Fans love him and want to cheer him, but putting him in pseudo-squashes against middling tag teams wrestling solo is no way to capitalize on his success; it's akin to trotting him out every week to say, "Hey guys! I'm Eddie Guerrero! You love me! Cheer me!" And oddly enough, that's the SAME thing Cena does right about now.

Granted, the company seems to be going with a Jr. Austin-McMahon vibe, but really, your top 3 faces (Guerrero, Cena, and RVD) are anti-authoritarian characters, whose popularity with fans caused face turns, and remain immensely over despite booking. To effectively tell their stories, you need to unite their interests. Imagine a promo where New GM Kurt Angle addresses all three, isolating them as the Top troublemakers on "His" Smackdown. The story is clear: Popular fan-favorites have to watch each other's backs, because asshole authority figure wants to shape the show in his image. Each top heel, then, has to be filtered through the collander that is the Evil GM Kurt Angle.

John Bradshaw Layfield is the Golden Boy, the Right Wing Conservative who embraces good ole American values. Booker T might not be squeaky-clean, but he was brought over from RAW to be a superstar, Angle's acquisition. Rene Dupree may be French, but politics makes strange bedfellows, and if necessary, Angle would prefer Dupree to Cena. Even guys like Mordecai and Kenzo Suzuki should be endorsed by Angle: Mordecai wishes to "cleanse" the WWE, which is okay with Angle, and Suzuki can be billed as a high-demand Angle acquisition, an international superstar who Angle wants to keep happy. Luther Reigns is a hoss of the highest order, and is Angle's pet monster.

Chavo Guerrero was a dominant heel champion, and rather than finding an underdog to face off against him, the bookers chose to "shake things up" by putting the title on a soon-to-be released woman, then giving it right back. The rest of the cruiserweights, with the exception of Rey Mysterio (for whom the cruiserweight title is passe) have been booked to look like chumps; the cruiserweight battle royal did a decent job of undoing that, but having Chavo win wasn't the smartest move. Ideally, you want to present a fast-paced cruiserweight style that can be a good 7-10 minutes of action every show, and you need guys who can generate responses. The tag division is another opportunity to employ cruisers in meaningful matches. The Haas-Rico pairing has been good for both, and it shows the wonders of storytelling and characterization.

But I'm rambling. Use the ENTIRE roster, filling the card with guys doing what they're good at, and the show will be technically sound.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
    Originally posted by madiq
    Use the ENTIRE roster, filling the card with guys doing what they're good at, and the show will be technically sound.

I love when everyone agrees with Vince Russo's booking methods without even knowing it.

Seriously though, that IS the best way to do it. Right now you've got too many people doing basically the same thing (the mid-card shuffle) with only the details changing in some poor attempt at keeping things 'fresh'. They were at their most successful when Russo was in charge because he knew that a good show needed something for everyone to do. From what I've heard (Foley's 1st book is the only reference I can think of now) it's a rarity for wrestlers to have a guy in charge that cares about each wrestler's character development.

Obviously getting him back won't work. Even if they did, his time is done. It's like getting Hogan back because you need a #1 draw. But there has to be SOMEONE out there that can keep track of what each guy is doing from week to week and try to think of ways to keep things moving, rather than looking at each week as "Shit, I have to write ANOTHER two shows to get through this week too!" and then just phoning it in to collect another paycheck for another week written.

Of course, if they could stop firing the few people they hire who DO try to write like that, it would be a good first start.

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.23
    Originally posted by BigTimbo
      Originally posted by A Fan
      Bradshaw is probably killed whatever importance the World Title had, so it would be a good idea to move to someone like Rob, Taker or even Booker.

    I honestly don't see how many people could make a valid point about this when he has only been champion for 3 days now and we haven't even seen him on TV as the champion yet. I understand that Bradshaw isn't the most popular guy in wrestling (or in discussions about wrestling) but after a little while as champ, he may actually start to be enjoyable. I've actually enjoyed him as a heel, I think he plays his character pretty good and while he is no Chris Benoit, he plays a believable part both in wrestling and when he is doing promos. I also understand the German Nazi thing was uncalled for but probably so was picking your nose with the Canadian flag and look where HBK is now. That doesn't make what he did any better, but people are quick to forget about things that happen when they actually like that wrestler's ability or ability to cut promos.

For me it took away some (a lot actually) importance from the title. In my eyes I just don't think for a while now you can portray winning the WWE championship as any sort of accomplishment when you have someone like Bradshaw with an overnight drastic gimmick change and a fast track ticket to the title... There been other title holders I didn't like, either from length of title run, or maybe thinking there's a better option. But no one as a individual stands out more in what doesn't belong in this list of champions then JBL.

I think his character is fine as well, but to be the top man to entrust the company (which I think the title represents) before these last few months, all your years in the company you were part of a mediocre tag team or a lower-midcard attraction that didn't even get regular A-show level TV time, now your champion... It makes the WWE title seem worthless, which they are usually careful in keeping the World title strong before this.

smark/net attack wienerville advisory is raised to YELLOW alert - Elevated (JBL is the new WWE champion, good gawd hide under the desk. But Benoit is World Champion allowing some safety in the IWC)- 6/28
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It does sound good for an indy gimmick match to draw a crowd. If it was on TV, I would turn it off faster than if the EEEEEEEEEEEEE midget fought Minidust. Oh, I'm just kidding. OF COURSE I'd watch the EEEEEEE midget fight Minidust! -K
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