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Here's the full rundown of the PTC's most and least family-friendly shows:

Best

"Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (ABC)
"Three Wishes" (NBC)
"American Idol" (FOX)
"Ghost Whisperer" (CBS)
"Everybody Hates Chris" (UPN)
"Reba" (The WB)
"The Bernie Mac Show" (FOX)
"Dancing with the Stars" (ABC)
"7th Heaven" (The WB)

Worst

"The War at Home" (FOX)
"Family Guy" (FOX)
"American Dad" (FOX)
"The O.C." (FOX)
"CSI" (CBS)
"Desperate Housewives" (ABC)
"Two and a Half Men" (CBS)
"That '70s Show" (FOX)
"Arrested Development" (FOX)
"Cold Case" (CBS)

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Other than Idol, I don't watch any of their shows in the "BEST" column. On the other hand, I watch about half of their shows in the "Worst" Column.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.70
What makes something come in the best or worst category?
I haven't seen the show, but I wouldn't expect the Chris Rock show in the best category based on mr. Rock's earlier work.

I have seen the Bernie Mac show a few years ago, and unless it has changed I don't think it's all the PC either.

the other shows I can understand. Good clean family fun for the most part, that doesn't deal with the excesses of life.
Or at least not in a realistic way.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08

    "Arrested Development"


Bull[bleep]. What does Michael always say comes first? No, not breakfast.

Come on!
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.05
"American Idol" is full of pettiness, cruelty for the sake of swagger and marketing, and outifts I'm not sure I'd let my wife wear to leave the house. Of all the "reality shows" to choose from and everything else out there (where are the cable and dish channels?), how did THIS make the list?



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I'm not even sure why the PTC deserves our attention. They seem to have very flawed logic.

With that, I gotta wonder, how do they compile this list?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.45
Well other than Family Guy I won't argue for anything on their worst list.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.75
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    where are the cable and dish channels?), how did THIS make the list?


I read where this list was only for broadcast channels. They have plans for other lists for the cable channels.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85

I'm sure Seth McFarlane is really shaking in his shoes somewhere ...
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"Dancing With the Stars" also featured young lithe women in miniscule costumes... wiggling and shaking, writhing... sweating... breathing heavy... moving in rhythm and concert with a partner to a crescendo of physical excitement and... I've had a very lonely week.

But come on, Kelly Monaco was on that show. If you're a straight male and she doesn't excite you, you may need to get that pulse checked. Plus she was in "Playboy".

If I had kids, I'd watch "Everybody Hates Chris" with them. It's funny and treats the racism as a daily part of his life without grandstanding on it. Also it shows the family at its worst, but still a family. It's actually a damn good show.

Though I think there may have been a few bits that L. Brent Bozell didn't catch.

"Ghost Whisperer" has Aisha Tyler. See previous note on Ms. Monaco.

But I have to agree with "That 70s Show. I find that show to be dreadfully unacceptable. Though for reasons that are in no way related to Bozell's.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.99
Hmm. . . WWE Smackdown doesn't even make the list anymore? If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that Bozell and his PTC were just targeting the most popular shows so that they could get the maximum amount of coverage for their act. But that can't be it, can it?
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    Hmm. . . WWE Smackdown doesn't even make the list anymore? If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that Bozell and his PTC were just targeting the most popular shows so that they could get the maximum amount of coverage for their act. But that can't be it, can it?

IIRC, part of the settlement of the lawsuit between WWE and PTC was that they could no longer make negative mentions of WWE programming, such as these lists.



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I don't understand how Cold Case made this list. Of all the crime procedural dramas out there (and we are living in some kind of golden age for that) it is the closest to what I would call a "Christian" show.

There is very little swearing if any. Some drinking. Miniscule violence except that there is always a victim, but the deaths almost always occur off-screen. The show gives us the "old" and the recent version of the person making the point that character counts and that our old sins return to revisit us.

Plus, the show almost always ends with the benevolent ghost of the victim smiling at the detective to thank them for solving the case. OK, so ghosts not technically part of Christian dogma, the show still makes a case for an after-life and a higher purpose.

I could also point to the "Rocky" episode which started with an old referee dying while making his last confession.

Oh and 24 didn't make the list for Worst? PTC's criteria is a little wacky, methinks.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.51

American Idol is there because the winner was Miss White Bread middle America Aryan nation sweetheart.

L. brent bozo is certifiable.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
The PTC has a website (www.parentstv.org) with all the shows and the PTCs ratings. Some of them are really out there.

LLakor, the PTC really disagrees with you on Cold Case (parentstv.org).

I'm pretty sure that last year, Everwood got the "worst" rating. There was pretty big backlash against it by other tv watchdogs (and TV Guide), and now it looks like the PTC has reclassified the show as yellow, instead of red, and all traces of it being labeled an evil, subversive show seem to have been eliminated. Way to stick to your guns, Bozell.
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    Originally posted by Llakor
    I don't understand how Cold Case made this list. Of all the crime procedural dramas out there (and we are living in some kind of golden age for that) it is the closest to what I would call a "Christian" show.

    There is very little swearing if any. Some drinking. Miniscule violence except that there is always a victim, but the deaths almost always occur off-screen. The show gives us the "old" and the recent version of the person making the point that character counts and that our old sins return to revisit us.

    Plus, the show almost always ends with the benevolent ghost of the victim smiling at the detective to thank them for solving the case. OK, so ghosts not technically part of Christian dogma, the show still makes a case for an after-life and a higher purpose.

    I could also point to the "Rocky" episode which started with an old referee dying while making his last confession.

    Oh and 24 didn't make the list for Worst? PTC's criteria is a little wacky, methinks.



Wasn't the male lead in Cold Case married, but having fantasies about the female lead? I only watched the first 5-6 episodes of this the first year, but there was a strong infidelity undertone from what I remember.

Maybe he was just playing favorites with her or being overprotective because he was in to her... Eh. I stopped watching after the hostage show.



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I'm going to have to agree with The War At Home being the worst show on the list. The mom and dad have three kids, one of whom is 17 (I think) and they did a show about her taking their pot stash. Who, after 17 years and three kids, still is pathetic enough to do pot?

About the only good thing on the show is the oldest boy in the family who everyone thinks is weird, but looks and sounds like a 14 year old Mick Foley.



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X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

I think the biggest tragedy here is the number of you not watching Everybody Hates Chris...

Which BTW is pretty squeaky clean. Little to no profanity, no sex, no glorified violence (only bullying, which is hardly displayed in a positive light), and the only person called a cracker was done so in narration (out of frustration for being wrongly accused).

This thread mostly reminded me how much I miss seeing Steven Richards get to win matches.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    Best

    "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (ABC)
    "Three Wishes" (NBC)
    "American Idol" (FOX)
    "Ghost Whisperer" (CBS)
    "Everybody Hates Chris" (UPN)
    "Reba" (The WB)
    "The Bernie Mac Show" (FOX)
    "Dancing with the Stars" (ABC)
    "7th Heaven" (The WB)




Thank goodness these nuts are just out there enough and their logic is just wacko enough to keep them from getting more support.

Look at these shows! What a bunch of bland, milquetoast pap. This is representative of these people's ideal "entertainment" - seriously a half-step away from the return of Champagne Hour with Lawrence Welk.

This list seriously made my blood run cold. Ye gods.



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    Originally posted by AngryJohnny
    and the only person called a cracker was done so in narration (out of frustration for being wrongly accused).


Though if memory serves, Joey Caruso called young Chris "nigger" in the pilot.

But, yes. Word. You should all be watching this.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
From Bozell's comments, , on Family Guy. I love the detailed explanation:

    Originally posted by Brian Bozell
    One episode this season featured teenaged daughter Meg being deflowered by comedian Jimmy Fallon on "Saturday Night Live." This show’s lack of any dignity whatsoever is proven by a parody of the classic children’s tale of Pinocchio in which Geppetto bends over with his buttocks in front of Pinocchio’s nose, then tries to get Pinocchio to lie, so that his nose will grow and, viewers are led to conclude, penetrate his anus.
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You know, that was my first thought too, but since they never referenced it later on (like Pam secretly telling the camera it was so), I just figured I was wrong.
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