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Tom Dean
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I'm not a Star Trek fan myself, but my mom is, and when I was growing up, she had a book called the Star Trek Concordance that I liked to look through. One of the concepts I remember from it was the Prime Directive. I looked up the exact wording (would you believe there is Star Trek information available on the Internet??), and it apparently says, "As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Starfleet personnel may interfere with the normal and healthy development of alien life and culture."

Substituting the US for Starfleet, this is what worries me about a war against Iraq. I don't doubt that Saddam is a threat to the US and its allies. I don't doubt that he supports terrorism. I don't doubt that he is building chemical and biological weapons, and would be thrilled to acquire and use a nuke if he could. This is a bad, bad guy. He massacres his own people with poison gas. I buy all that, and I buy that a different Iraqi leader would be very much in our national interest.

But all that said, ultimately, does the US have the right to go in there and replace the Iraqi government with the type of leader America wants? Yeah, I know Saddam was not exactly freely chosen by his own people as their leader. Does that make it a different situation? I really don't know. Would we be serving the Iraqi peoples' own interest by giving them a democracy like our own? Or is it really more in their own interest to have us leave them alone? Or does it not really matter what's in their interest, because the US government's job is solely to protect America's own interests?

And, well, if we do decide to let the whole thing go, we'll all feel pretty goddamn stupid if and when poison gas gets released in Tel Aviv or the Washington metro, won't we?

I have no big conclusion to make this any more coherent, other than if it strikes a thought in you, say it :-)



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    Originally posted by Tom Dean
    I'm not a Star Trek fan myself, but my mom is, and when I was growing up, she had a book called the Star Trek Concordance that I liked to look through. One of the concepts I remember from it was the Prime Directive. I looked up the exact wording (would you believe there is Star Trek information available on the Internet??), and it apparently says, "As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Starfleet personnel may interfere with the normal and healthy development of alien life and culture."

    Substituting the US for Starfleet, this is what worries me about a war against Iraq. I don't doubt that Saddam is a threat to the US and its allies. I don't doubt that he supports terrorism. I don't doubt that he is building chemical and biological weapons, and would be thrilled to acquire and use a nuke if he could. This is a bad, bad guy. He massacres his own people with poison gas. I buy all that, and I buy that a different Iraqi leader would be very much in our national interest.

    But all that said, ultimately, does the US have the right to go in there and replace the Iraqi government with the type of leader America wants? Yeah, I know Saddam was not exactly freely chosen by his own people as their leader. Does that make it a different situation? I really don't know. Would we be serving the Iraqi peoples' own interest by giving them a democracy like our own? Or is it really more in their own interest to have us leave them alone? Or does it not really matter what's in their interest, because the US government's job is solely to protect America's own interests?

    And, well, if we do decide to let the whole thing go, we'll all feel pretty goddamn stupid if and when poison gas gets released in Tel Aviv or the Washington metro, won't we?

    I have no big conclusion to make this any more coherent, other than if it strikes a thought in you, say it :-)

Tom Dean
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I can't argue with that!



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"How YOU Doin'?"
- me, weekly (or so) at [slash]

"History is being make-ed... someone is going to get their head completely shaved off"
- David McLane, PPV opening promo

You see this? You see how my body's glowing like that? Yeah... a lot of people can't do that. Come get some of this glowing. Oh, okay, you. You want some. You want some of the glowing. Look, man... your soul... I'm going to totally floss with it and chew on your spirit. I read that somewhere. But I'll do it.

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Also, voters. But then, you've made your opinion of voters pretty clear (albeit after some coaxing ;-) ). This is a fun exercise in academics but seriously...people who are trying to keep their jobs, pay their bills, raise their families?
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