The W
Views: 101481991
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
20.12.14 1627
The W - Random - The People's Champ?
This thread has 20 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 5.86
Pages: 1
(1498 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (15 total)
Joe E. Nitro
Salami








Since: 4.2.04

Since last post: 3688 days
Last activity: 1170 days
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.96
Click Here (sports.espn.go.com)

Vitali Klitschko put up a pretty good showing tonight. Granted it was against what could be viewed as a weaker opponent, but boy did the two of them put on the best Heavyweight fight that I've seen in years. Lots of hard punching, blood and very little grabbing and stalling. I like Vitali, he's not the prettiest boxer, part of that might be because he's a big tall (6'7) ass white boy, but the man can take some serious punches and turn around and give them too. He's also much more controlled than his brother who punches himself out. Vitali is now the WBC Heavyweight Champion. There are other Heavyweight Champs out there, but from what I've seen he seems to be the best of a pretty weak bunch. Boxing has a ton of issues to still sort out, which is too bad considering how much it used to mean in America. Tonight Vitali Klitschko and his iron jawed opponent put on a great fight, the crowd ate it up and showed that Heavyweight boxing still has a place in the world of sports. By the end of the night HBO was calling Klitshko the People's Champ, and I'd have to agree. He may not be the next Ali or Tyson, but he's a great transitional champion to lift the sport out of its comatose state.



(edited by Joe E. Nitro on 24.4.04 2359)
Promote this thread!
Downtown Bookie
Morcilla








Since: 7.4.02
From: The Inner City, Now Living In The Country

Since last post: 192 days
Last activity: 86 days
#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
While Vitali Klitschko's victory tonight makes him WBC Heavyweight Champion, I can't see rating him ahead of current IBF champion Chris Byrd, who defeated Klitschko (boxingtimes.com) in Germany just a little over four years ago. Granted, it was a fight that Klitschko was clearly winning until his shoulder forced him to quit; and, yes, Byrd has looked anything but sharp in his last couple of bouts. But in my mind it's the final result that matters, and I can't justify ranking a fighter ahead of someone who holds a 1-0 record (via TKO) against him. So, IMHO, before Klitchko can be considered the consensus heavyweight champ he first needs to avenge his loss to Byrd.



Patiently waiting to be Stratusfied.
MoeGates
Andouille








Since: 6.1.02
From: Brooklyn, NY

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 18 hours
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
The problem with Byrd is, even if you beat him you don't look good doing it. I'd like to see a Byrd/Klitscko rematch also, but I don't think it'll happen.

Honestly, Golata might be the best contender out there. That's scary.

Wlad Klitscho had a tough time in his last two fights, and definitely has a weak chin, but the conditioning aspect is unfair. He went twelve rounds against Byrd and beat the heck out of him every second of it. Tonight Larry Merchant was talking about something to do with Vasoline being responsible. Normally I'd say "whatever" but in this case I might buy it.



I wonder how much money George W. Bush gave Paris Hilton.
Santa Sangre
Bockwurst








Since: 21.6.02
From: Germany

Since last post: 529 days
Last activity: 417 days
#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.67
The one fight that is marketable and could get some people back into boxing is the Klitchko brother vs. brother fight. I know they've both said they don't want to break their mothers heart and all that jazz, but tell me that wouldn't be a promoters dream.



"I don't think you're a bad person, in fact, you're my favorite person in the world. You can just be a real cunt sometimes."



"There are no wealthy black men in America. Shaq is rich, the white man who signs his check is wealthy." - Chris Rock
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 15 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
    Originally posted by MoeGates
    The problem with Byrd is, even if you beat him you don't look good doing it. I'd like to see a Byrd/Klitscko rematch also, but I don't think it'll happen.

    Honestly, Golata might be the best contender out there. That's scary.
Given that Golota is now aligned with Don King - who also has Byrd - I can easily see a Golota fight, THEN a Byrd fight. But not before a Byrd/Golota rematch to settle their draw. Oh, and I'm sure all of them will have questionable judging.

(DISCLAIMER: I managed to miss tonight's fight AND the Byrd/Golota fight)



Kings16
to go!
CRZ
redsoxnation
Scrapple








Since: 24.7.02

Since last post: 537 days
Last activity: 537 days
#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
If you throw the Tyson freakshow out of the equation and believe Lewis is really retired, Golata/Klitscko might be the only big money fight out there. True, they are both foreigners, but they are both white, which means 2 white guys fighting for a heavyweight title (Gerry Cooney would have to be rolled out for commentary on the fight). Plus, it'll be a gutter war, with both guys throwing bombs the whole night. Throw in the Poland vs. Soviet Union (I know, Ukraine, but its boxing and money, they'll use Soviet Union if they have to), and the bad blood could really get flowing. This might be Don King's dream scenario.



WooHoo, the wrestling dead pool is back in business.
Grimis
Scrapple








Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1327 days
Last activity: 1124 days
#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Honestly, Golata might be the best contender out there.
And isn't this the same Golate that hit Tyson repeatedly in the balls?

By the end of 2005, Tyson will have one of the belts, as scary as that is.



JayJayDean
Scrapple








Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 5 days
Last activity: 1 day
AIM:  
Y!:
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Originally posted by Grimis
    And isn't this the same Golate that hit Tyson repeatedly in the balls?


The same Golota, but that was Riddick Bowe, not Tyson.

I'd rank the belt-holders like this:

1. Klitschko
2. Byrd
3. Ruiz
4. Brewster

I know Byrd "beat" Klitschko, but that was four years ago, and I can't honestly believe that Byrd could handle Vitali today. Vitali seems to have really come into his own, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to seem him end the John Ruiz Career of Shame in his next fight. Thank GOD I decided to not make any effort to see the Byrd-Golota/Ruiz-Oquendo PPV.

I also have to say I somewhat buy the theory on Wladimir and the Vaseline and massage contributing his loss. On "Legendary Nights: Hagler-Hearns" Emanuel Steward mentioned Hearns getting a massage before that fight and he had no energy even in round TWO against Hagler. Wladimir had never had a problem going past five rounds before, and I'd love to seem HIM against Ruiz as well, although it's apparent he's going to have to go through some comeback fights for a while.



RIP, Pat Tillman, 11/6/76 - 4/22/04

To get ass, youve got to bring ass." -- Roy Jones Jr.

"Your input has been noted.
I hope you don't take it personally if I disregard it."
-- Guru Zim

"Speak English or face admin retribution." -- CRZ
BigVitoMark
Lap cheong








Since: 10.8.02
From: Queen's University, Canada

Since last post: 3436 days
Last activity: 3345 days
ICQ:  
#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.10
Does Roy Jones still hold one of the heavyweight titles? I know he wasn't planning to become a full time heavyweight, but I can't help but wonder if the lack of legitimate money fighters right now might prompt someone to make it worth his while to do so.

Also, I know they've said they'd never do it, but the only non-Tyson fight out there right now that I would go and see would be Klitschko vs. Klitschko. I know all signs point against it right now, but I think it's only a matter of time and a couple more dog title fights that don't draw before someone steps up with enough money to get it done.

What's the over/under on how long until they go back to Tyson again?

Finally, yes Byrd holds a win over Klitschko, but those things happen. Doesn't Oliver McCall hold a win over Lennox Lewis? Does anyone think in a thousand years that that would happen again (if Lewis hadn't retired, that is)? I sure don't.





Don't you hate pants?
redsoxnation
Scrapple








Since: 24.7.02

Since last post: 537 days
Last activity: 537 days
#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    Does Roy Jones still hold one of the heavyweight titles? I know he wasn't planning to become a full time heavyweight, but I can't help but wonder if the lack of legitimate money fighters right now might prompt someone to make it worth his while to do so.

    Also, I know they've said they'd never do it, but the only non-Tyson fight out there right now that I would go and see would be Klitschko vs. Klitschko. I know all signs point against it right now, but I think it's only a matter of time and a couple more dog title fights that don't draw before someone steps up with enough money to get it done.

    What's the over/under on how long until they go back to Tyson again?

    Finally, yes Byrd holds a win over Klitschko, but those things happen. Doesn't Oliver McCall hold a win over Lennox Lewis? Does anyone think in a thousand years that that would happen again (if Lewis hadn't retired, that is)? I sure don't.







Jones gave up the belt, and Ruiz became champ as he won a provisional title match while Jones was still champ.



WooHoo, the wrestling dead pool is back in business.
oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 2045 days
Last activity: 1979 days
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
Thre Brit tabloids are somewhat abuzz today over a rumoured Klitschko/Lewis meeting after the fight, which apparently ended with Lewis kinda maybe agreeing to a rematch for a massive paycheck. Unlike most I'm a huge Lewis fan, but I have to admit I think seeing him pass the torch to Klitschko fair and square would be a lot more satisfying an end to his career than the bowing-out-on-top routine.



For Relaxing Times...Make It Suntory Time

Grimis
Scrapple








Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1327 days
Last activity: 1124 days
#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I have to admit I think seeing him pass the torch to Klitschko fair and square would be a lot more satisfying an end to his career than the bowing-out-on-top routine.
Of course, the problem for heavyweight boxing comes if Lewis beats Klitschko fair and square and Lewis retires(again)...





The election is still six months away. But Kerry's reputation has been built over 40 years. And the voters seem to be sniffing it out.- David S. Broder
Joe E. Nitro
Salami








Since: 4.2.04

Since last post: 3688 days
Last activity: 1170 days
#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.96
    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      I have to admit I think seeing him pass the torch to Klitschko fair and square would be a lot more satisfying an end to his career than the bowing-out-on-top routine.
    Of course, the problem for heavyweight boxing comes if Lewis beats Klitschko fair and square and Lewis retires(again)...


The problem is if both these guys fight an even fight and the decision goes to the judges. Neither one of these guys are a true knock-out boxer.


JayJayDean
Scrapple








Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 5 days
Last activity: 1 day
AIM:  
Y!:
#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Originally posted by Joe E. Nitro
    The problem is if both these guys fight an even fight and the decision goes to the judges. Neither one of these guys are a true knock-out boxer.





WHAT?!?!?!

Lennox Lewis is 41-2-1 with 32 KOs.
Vitali Klitschko is 34-2 with 33 KOs.

That seems to be a decent KO percentage to me.

Lewis KO'ed Rahman with one punch, and Klitschko destroyed Kirk Johnson, who had never been knocked down.



RIP, Pat Tillman, 11/6/76 - 4/22/04

To get ass, youve got to bring ass." -- Roy Jones Jr.

"Your input has been noted.
I hope you don't take it personally if I disregard it."
-- Guru Zim

"Speak English or face admin retribution." -- CRZ
BigVitoMark
Lap cheong








Since: 10.8.02
From: Queen's University, Canada

Since last post: 3436 days
Last activity: 3345 days
ICQ:  
#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.10
I wouldn't mind seeing Lewis/Klitschko again, especially considering their last fight didn't have a definite winner. Like Joe E. said, though, if Lewis wins (which I think he would if he was in game shape) and retires again (which he definitely would) it kinda drives home the point that heavyweight boxing doesn't have a bonafide champion among the current active guys. Whoever puts that together better be sure of a big payday, because the potential damage to Klitschko's drawing power is big.



Don't you hate pants?
Thread rated: 5.86
Pages: 1
Thread ahead: Iron Chef America
Next thread: Kill Bill Volume 2 Rocked!
Previous thread: Spike TV Likes Cars
(1498 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Has anyone else here had a problem in the new update where they buy out a company where you're supposed to get all the contracts, the game crashes, when you come back the company still exists and all their old talent are now free agents, and you're out th...
- spf, EWR Troubles (2002)
Related threads: Richard Simmons gets tough - Gatti/Branco - Acelino Frietas - More...
The W - Random - The People's Champ?Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.165 seconds.