The W
Views: 99907119
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
22.10.14 0142
The W - Pro Wrestling - The Pecking Order-Raw
This thread has 16 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Pages: 1 2 Next(8671 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (31 total)
oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 1985 days
Last activity: 1919 days
#1 Posted on
So me and a friend were discussing the jobber order in the WWE-how previous booking and current pushes dictate the ranking of the wrestlers in erms of wins and losses. Here's the list that we came up with for Raw, from lowest to highest, in terms of the lowliest jobber and winningest main eventer. It's totally base don random bullshit and opinion rather than stats or anything time-consuming like that. I might knock one together for SmackDown too.

JOBBER
Rosey
Spike Dudley
D-Von Dudley
Maven
Tommy Dreamer
Steven Richards
Al Snow
Chris Nowinski
Bubba Dudley
Val Venis
The Hurricane
Lance Storm
Sylvan Grenier
Rene Dupree
Rico
Goldust
Rodney Mack
Christian
Ric Flair
Test
Rob van Dam
Scott Steiner
Randy Orton
Booker T
Kane
Chris Jericho
Shawn Michaels
Kevin Nash
Triple H
Goldberg
TERMINATOR

Whaddaya think? Opinion? Disagreement? Alteration? all are welcome. The early-going and final few were easy choices, but the middle was kinda tough.




Hail To The King, Baby

Promote this thread!
AWArulz
Knackwurst








Since: 28.1.02
From: Louisville, KY

Since last post: 3 days
Last activity: 2 hours
AIM:  
Y!:
#2 Posted on
I'd say your list's about right, except I might flop Rico and Val - seems like Val wins a lot - but it might be impression only.

Didn't see Jerry Lawler and it seems he works almost as often as Flair and Michaels. Usually wins, so I stick him in there at about the same place as Flair.



We'll be back as soon as order is restored.....
XPacArmy
Frankfurter








Since: 13.5.03
From: Woodbridge, VA

Since last post: 350 days
Last activity: 347 days
#3 Posted on
If your going to put Jerry Lawler on you might as well put Jim Ross on there too. He has had what about 2 or 3 matches. Don't know if he has won them all or not.



Shopkeeper: Take this object, but beware;it carries a terrible curse!
Homer: Oooh, that's bad.
Shopkeeper: But it comes with a free Frogurt!
Homer: That's good!
Shopkeeper: The Frogurt is also cursed.
Homer: That's bad.
Shopkeeper: But you get your choice of toppings!
Homer: That's good!
Shopkeeper: The toppings contain potassium benzoate.
[Homer looks puzzled.]
Shopkeeper: That's bad.
Homer: Can I go now?
Ubermonkeys
Frankfurter








Since: 2.1.02
From: Michigan

Since last post: 3517 days
Last activity: 3391 days
AIM:  
#4 Posted on
Most of this seems right to me, but I totally don't understand D-Von being the third biggest jobber.



That Satan's a good guy. He shares his Skittles.

oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 1985 days
Last activity: 1919 days
#5 Posted on
Try and remember the last time D-Von a)Wrestled in a singles match on Raw, and b)WON a singles match on Raw. Then try and picture him beating anybody above him one-on-one.



Hail To The King, Baby

Gugs
Bierwurst








Since: 9.7.02
From: Sleep (That's where I'm a viking)

Since last post: 516 days
Last activity: 2 days
AIM:  
Y!:
#6 Posted on
The following post expresses the opinions of a raving Jerichoholic. He is biased, opinionated and bitter. You have been warned.

I'd probably switch the order of Booker, Jericho and Kane. Y2J should be at the bottom of those three, and Booker would probably be a little bit ahead of Kane. Then again, it's your list, and you can do whatever you want with it.



The preceding post expressed the opinions of a raving Jerichoholic. He was biased, opinionated and bitter. You were warned.

87 and counting!
Underwater
Boerewors








Since: 5.10.02
From: Battle Creek, Michigan

Since last post: 3277 days
Last activity: 2926 days
#7 Posted on
Orton should probably be ahead of Jericho, because he's going to be(if he already isn't)the #2 heel on Raw, and he barely ever lost before the injuries and he isn't going to be doing too much losing in the future. Jericho is just sort of there right now, and is probably at the same level as RVD.

I'd probably put Kane at Nash's spot since Kevin has beaten Jericho and that's pretty much it. Kane barely ever loses and is booked strong pretty much all of the time. Nash hasn't done much of anything and can't even get on TV right now.

The Frenchies should be ahead of Goldust. If nothing else, they have singles victories over RVD and Kane.



*cry*
Scott Summets
Sujuk








Since: 27.6.02

Since last post: 3904 days
Last activity: 3872 days
#8 Posted on
Currently, RVD should still be ahead of Orton and Steiner, and I think Hurricane should be ahead of Storm, but this list is pretty solid.



Rorschach: "None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
OlFuzzyBastard
Knackwurst








Since: 28.4.02
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 14 days
Last activity: 11 days
AIM:  
#9 Posted on
Besides the tag match with HBK, which Michaels got the pinfall in, and his DQ victory over HHH, name a match Kevin Nash has won since his comeback. Give it a shot.



(edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 6.7.03 1416)


JST
Toulouse








Since: 20.1.02
From: Quebec City, CAN

Since last post: 50 days
Last activity: 18 hours
#10 Posted on
I'd put Hurricane a little higher, what with their attempts to push the guy.

Terminator?



Big Bad
Scrapple








Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 3 hours
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
I didn't realize Tom Henke wrestled on RAW, let alone deserved the top spot.



Over 1600 posts and still never a Wiener of the Day!


Q: If you could have one superpower -- the strength of 100 men, invisibility, or the ability to fly -- which would you choose and why?

Michael Vick: Oh man, invisibility. If I was in a bad situation or something or I said something or you know, caught with two girls I could just disappear. I could be gone just like that -- no trouble.


"I don't understand the creative process. Actually, I make a concerted effort not to understand it. I don't know what it is or how it works but I am terrified that one green morning it will decide not to work anymore, so I have always given it as wide a bypass as possible."-- William Goldman


Spaceman Spiff
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: Philly Suburbs

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by Tod deKindes
    I'd put Hurricane a little higher, what with their attempts to push the guy.

    Terminator?


What attempts? Other than teaming w/ Kane, and the few weeks w/ Rock, he's basically been a jobber since coming to Raw.

If it were up to me, Helms would be back on SD w/out the Hurricane gimmick.



Ubermonkeys
Frankfurter








Since: 2.1.02
From: Michigan

Since last post: 3517 days
Last activity: 3391 days
AIM:  
#13 Posted on
<< Try and remember the last time D-Von a)Wrestled in a singles match on Raw, and b)WON a singles match on Raw. Then try and picture him beating anybody above him one-on-one. >>

Fair enough, but here's some fun as far as I can tell about Buh Buh- since he lost the HUGE match against Triple H in September 2002, how many singles matches has he had on Raw? That's right, 1. And he LOST that match, on 5.26.03, to Rodney Mack. So I guess I can understand D-Von being low, but Buh Buh sure doesn't belong that much farther up from him.

EDIT: I forget words.

(edited by Ubermonkeys on 6.7.03 1803)


That Satan's a good guy. He shares his Skittles.

cfgb
Lap cheong








Since: 2.1.02
From: Ottawa, Ontario

Since last post: 8 hours
Last activity: 4 hours
#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.87
Ubermonkeys - that said, Bubba DID win several singles contests for awhile, and if put in the ring with any of the people below him, it's reasonable to expect he should win.

D-Von got himself a win over Triple H about 18 months ago with TONS of interference, and since then did what? Jobbed on Velocity lots, tagged with Ron Simmons and jobbed some more.... He's been proven useless without Bubba so his position is very well deserved.



Contact cfgb
Visit SHOOTING STAR PRESS - regular updates, great writers. Check it out!
Ubermonkeys
Frankfurter








Since: 2.1.02
From: Michigan

Since last post: 3517 days
Last activity: 3391 days
AIM:  
#15 Posted on
Buh Buh in singles (RAW) in 2002/2003

1.14.02- Lost to Spike
2.04.02- Lost to RVD
4.01.02- Beat Raven
4.08.02- NC Booker T, beat Goldust
4.15.02- Lost to Raven, beat Stevie
4.29.02- Lost to Stevie
5.06.02- Beat Stevie, lost to Raven
5.20.02- Beat Regal
5.27.02- Lost to Brock
6.10.02- Lost to Brock
6.24.02- Lost to Eddy
7.08.02- Lost to Benoit
8.05.02- Beat Big Show
9.09.02- Beat Stevie
9.30.02- Lost to Triple H
5.26.03- Lost to Rodney Mack

So as far as the list goes, he's 2-1 vs. Stevie and 0-1 vs. Spike, guys below him. His singles record on Raw since the beginning of 2002 is 7-11-1. I'm not sure whose argument I'm making with this, just kinda putting it out there.

D-Von overall (RAW/SD) in 2002/2003

1.07.02- Lost to Spike/Tazz with Buh Buh
1.21.02- Lost to RVD/Spike/Tazz with Buh Buh/Book
3.11.02- Lost to RVD/Hardys with Buh Buh/Regal
3.18.02- Lost to Billy/Chuck with Buh Buh
5.09.02- Beat Triple H
5.16.02- Beat Maven
5.23.02- Beat Rikishi
6.06.02- Lost to Faarooq
6.13.02- Lost to Faarooq
6.27.02- Beat Faarooq/Orton with Batista
7.04.02- Beat Venis/Orton with Batista
7.11.02- Beat Henry/Orton with Batista
7.25.02- Beat Venis
8.01.02- Lost to Rikishi
8.08.02- Lost to Henry
8.22.02- Lost to Rikishi/Cena with Batista
8.29.02- Beat Cena
9.05.02- Lost to Batista
10.3.02- Beat Billy/Chuck with Faarooq
10.17.2- Lost to Edge/Rey with Faarooq
11.25.2- Lost to Jericho/Tian with Buh Buh
12.2.02- Beat Rosie/Jamal with Buh Buh
12.9.02- Beat Jericho/Tian/Victoria with Buh Buh/Trish
12.16.2- Lost to Storm/Regal with Buh Buh
1.06.03- Lost to Batista/Rico/3MW with Buh Buh
1.20.03- Lost to Storm/Regal with Buh Buh
1.27.03- Lost to Storm/Regal with Buh Buh
2.03.03- Lost to 3MW with Buh Buh
2.10.03- Beat Morley with Buh Buh/Spike
3.10.03- Lost to Storm/Morley
3.24.03- Lost to RVD/Kane with Buh Buh
3.31.03- Lost to Storm/Morley, RVD/Kane with Buh Buh
4.07.03- Beat Kane with Buh Buh
4.21.03- NC Trish/Spike with Buh Buh
5.12.03- Beat 3MW with Buh Buh
5.19.03- Beat 3MW with Buh Buh
6.09.03- Lost to Rodney Mack
6.16.03- Beat Mack/Nowinski/Jazz with Buh Buh/Trish
6.23.03- Beat Jericho/Storm with Buh Buh

D-Von's singles record in the same time period is 5-6. Obviously this isn't entirely accurate since I don't have Velocity results to go by. 17-21-1 is his overall record, as far as I can tell. Looks like 7-12-1 when he teams with Buh Buh, 3-1 with Batista, 1-1 with Simmons.

Looking at this, apparently the intention of this post was to prove I have no life. I think I've made my point.




That Satan's a good guy. He shares his Skittles.

oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 1985 days
Last activity: 1919 days
#16 Posted on
Again, the list isn't put together using stats or any rigid form of classification. It's decided thinking "Would X job to Y?". Hence kevin Nash's high ranking, D-Von's low showing, and Bubba's surprisingly solid position.



Hail To The King, Baby

Ubermonkeys
Frankfurter








Since: 2.1.02
From: Michigan

Since last post: 3517 days
Last activity: 3391 days
AIM:  
#17 Posted on
Indeed, but Rico pinning Flair a while back proves that ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWE and I'll finally shut up by saying that Al Snow is too high. :)



That Satan's a good guy. He shares his Skittles.

Oliver
Scrapple








Since: 20.6.02
From: #YEG

Since last post: 6 hours
Last activity: 5 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    If it were up to me, Helms would be back on SD w/out the Hurricane gimmick.
I disagree. I think that the Hurricane is really decent, and he's very much needed on Smackdown! in the cruiserweight division. Keep the gimmick, though, or else he'll look like everyone else in the division who wear a full faced mask, like Dragon or Mysterio.

Heck Hurricane's gimmick is one of the freshest things on the show, with exception of the hilarity that is Rico.



Steven + Faith: Three months of happiness, and a controlling, emotionally manipulative, and psycho sister. Not Faith...Faith's sister. Don't ask. PLEASE don't ask...
Shem the Penman
Toulouse








Since: 16.1.02
From: The Off-Center of the Universe (aka Philadelphia)

Since last post: 262 days
Last activity: 61 days
#19 Posted on
Helms - Hurricane gimmick = Shannon Moore

The only thing that bums me out about the Hurricane gimmick is that he doesn't seem to be doing the mask giveaway thing any more. I think the Hurricane could stand to be bumped up a few spots on the list -- I don't think he's any lower on the pecking order than Storm or Les Frenchies.

And I think it's overly optimistic to put Goldberg over Triple H, but we'll see come Summerslam.



"next to of course god america i
love you land of the pilgrims' and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn's early my
country tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?"

He spoke. And drank rapidly a glass of water
Spaceman Spiff
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: Philly Suburbs

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
#20 Posted on
What I meant was, put Helms in the cruiser division as an arrogant dick heel. He can cut a promo about comic books are for losers, he's busy signing autographs for "snot-nosed" kids while all the "boys" are heading back to the hotel w/ chicks, he was never treated w/ respect on Raw, etc. Bring back the Sugar Shane Helms persona, except as a heel who thinks he's God's gift to women.

I love the Hurricane gimmick, but he's been doing it for a while, and I think it's time to freshen him up (yeah, I know they'll lose all the merchandising $$$). It looks like Kidman will be a heel when he returns, but other than him, the division won't have any strong heels (pending what they do w/ Knoble).



Pages: 1 2 Next
Pages: 1 2 NextThread ahead: The Return of Your Favorite Thread...
Next thread: Nova Invented Knee Injuries
Previous thread: Holy God!
(8671 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
To clarify on keloid (but not the source of Booker T's scars): Generally, you're either a `keloid-former' or you're not (this is not a rule, a keloid scar can happen to anyone).
The W - Pro Wrestling - The Pecking Order-RawRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.405 seconds.