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John Orquiola
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Since: 28.2.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
Cathy, or Kathy, whichever, is a vile creature. I mean, I find her physically attractive and I'm neither Jim Halpert nor married with children, but yeah, she is terrible.

For me, the hot streak came to an end at three episodes. This was pool party-level Office. On the surface, a logical coupling with Erin and Ryan, The Office's prime douchebag, but it ended limply. Packer and Nellie? Gross. Darryl and what's her name. Don't care. So do not care.

Jim utilizing Dwight as a weapon to clear C/Kathy out of his room was the only thing that I thought worked, just because it was solving such a vile problem in a way akin to how Dwight and Jim operate. And yet, you know, it would be nice if Jim Halpert were a man who could stand up to a woman trying to get him to cheat on his wife without tricking Dwight into Wile E. Coyote tactics. But then he wouldn't be Jim Halpert, which is my point.

Three steps forward but a big step back this week.

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I liked this week's better than last, although, I don't like Nellie's character any more now after the last 2 episodes than I did at the season finale. Count me in the camp that is very glad Spader got the job over her. Speaking of which, he's been missing in action for a while now.

I still think we're only scratching the surface of Cathy's attempts at Jim. He really conveyed the uneasiness of the situation with her being in his room well.

"Dude, I didn't know you were @#$%-ing Val." was a great reaction, line of the night for me.

One drawback tonight, too much Nellie/Packer, not nearly enough Florida Stanley.



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Since: 12.12.01
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
I like it when Dwight and Jim are friends and I laughed very much at the line about how everything's a joke to bed bugs.

Deeply disappointed in no Ryan/Erin, that's so much more interesting and hilarious than anything with her and Andy.

3 weeks til Community y'all
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Since: 16.10.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.49
I loved it.

This Tallahassee plot-line has sucked me back in to the a show I stopped caring about.

I was really interested to see what was going on with Jim and Kathy and what she was going to try. I could feel Jim's frustration and wouldn't blame him for being tempted once I saw her in a bathrobe.

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"That would be in March"

Though the show still suffers without Michael, this one moved along at a nice, quick pace. (Good job directing Kevin/Brian Baumgartner)
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.49
Since it is a show withing a show (the documentary that never airs) they could always take a Meta route and say that the show had gotten boring after Michael left and the doc producers "cast" Kathy as someone to come in a stir the pot and convinced Sabre to hire her as a temp. Maybe Robert's in on it- which would explain why she was allowed to stay on after Pam came back.

It's crazy to think we're in Season 8 and there's still no real explanation of why there are cameras following these people around. I don't think anyone expected the show to last this long.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.75
I thought the show was okay. My favorite part was seeing Cathy try to get at Jim, since they've never really explored another woman hitting on Jim as in-depth as this. And now having to bring it back to the office setting...it should be interesting. Not a bad episode, but not as good as the last few weeks.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.01
    Originally posted by dwaters
    It's crazy to think we're in Season 8 and there's still no real explanation of why there are cameras following these people around. I don't think anyone expected the show to last this long.


Does this matter? It's been stated within the show that it's for a documentary about American office life, and that the cameras are 'active' in the action (as in the cameramen are physically there).

For other shows that use the fake-documentary style like Parks & Recreation and Modern Family, I don't think they've even bothered to acknowledge the cameras or acknowledge they're documentaries --- it's just the style of the program.



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#8 Posted on
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Does this matter? It's been stated within the show that it's for a documentary about American office life, and that the cameras are 'active' in the action (as in the cameramen are physically there).


I thought of this when Ryan and Erin were in the kitchen and they had to duck under the table. The cameraman had to do the same thing, because he was physically there.

Although they went and violated the premise with Kathy trying to sleep with Jim with a cameraman in the room... As its always been, its one of those conceits where how closely they adhere to it is at the mercy of the story. Which I'm fine with.

Count me amongst those who enjoyed Jim calling Dwight to help him with Kathy. It was dysfunctionally perfect.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.49
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Does this matter? It's been stated within the show that it's for a documentary about American office life, and that the cameras are 'active' in the action (as in the cameramen are physically there).




Who stated this and when? I've seen every episode and don't remember.

A lot of people say the documentary premise has been dropped and just go with it, but it still bugs me.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Although they went and violated the premise with Kathy trying to sleep with Jim with a cameraman in the room...


I think there was an establishing shot where the camera was shooting from outside through a sliding glass door. Then Dwight's camera came in with Dwight. I can't hold those assertions up to scrutiny though.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14
I saw the first 3-4 episodes last last year, and I don't remember them explicitly explaining that it was for a show. I think this is a leftover assumption from the british show.

On the other hand, Michael's departure tells you what's going on. Aren't his last lines, "You'll tell me when this airs, right?"
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.95
I put off watching this episode as long as I could but had to do it last night. With the Kathy-Jim situation, I knew what I would have to endure while watching the show, courtesy of Mrs. Goon:

"Does this happen when you go away to conventions?"
"How many women have hit on you when you're out of town?"
(Pausing show): "Okay, if you were in your room and Kathy showed up, what would you say to her? When would you tell her to leave?"

(sigh)

Dwight sure was funny, though.
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#13 Posted on
    Originally posted by theremin
    I saw the first 3-4 episodes last last year, and I don't remember them explicitly explaining that it was for a show. I think this is a leftover assumption from the british show.

    On the other hand, Michael's departure tells you what's going on. Aren't his last lines, "You'll tell me when this airs, right?"


The camera crew would have to be for something, and it's clear they exist (unlike on Parks and Rec, where you have talking heads and glances but it's never been established that there's a documentary crew - it's just the format they used since it works well.) Besides the walkthrough of the office in the pilot, there were interactions with the camera crew later on (the cameraman pointing out to Pam that Dwight got a candy bar from Angela; the camera crew busting Pam and Jim for being engaged.)

That said, it's just a device and while I hate the phrase "it's just a TV show, chill" as it allows for the forgiveness of too many sins, I shall heed its advice here.
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