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Now by rookie champion, I mean someone who will become a WWF World Champion for the first time EVER. The Fed seems to put the belt on someone completely new every year.

1998 - Rock
1999 - Foley, HHH, Big Show
2000 - Angle
2001 - Jericho
2002 - Brock

Now, it's 2003 and from my perspective at this point in time, here are the likely candidates for this year ranked by liklihood:

1. Booker T (#1 face on Raw. Pretty much the only one I see dethroning HHH right now. Not saying that b/c I mark for the guy or the fact that the Big Gold Belt is his property anyway either. :))
2. Chris Benoit (It's a shame the Angle/Benoit progam will be cut off to push Angle/Brock (I assume) for WM19)
3. Edge (just ONE big feud is all he needs. Heel Rock, perhaps?)
4. Rob Van Dam (I doubt it. They had THREE opportunities to do it and blew them all. Now, all Rob does nowadays is a whole lot of nothing. In addition to smoking a lot of pot.)


Anyone else I'm missing that would make a believable World Champ this year?




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#2 Posted on
I think Edge is the most likely choice of the guys you just mentioned, if for no other reason than he's a homegrown WWE guy. I'd love to see Booker take the Raw title, but I'm not exactly holding my breath.
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#3 Posted on
With the way things are going, Edge definitely looks to be in line for a title shot at No Way Out in February. He obviously won't stop the Kurt Angle juggernaut, but I believe Edge will capture the gold sometime this year.

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#4 Posted on
If Booker T would count as a "new" champion, then so would Steiner and I would say Steiner has at least a 5% chance of winning the belt at the Rumble, which is better odds than anyone else has had for awhile on the Raw side.

And the way things have been building, I wouldn't be overly shocked to see Benoit win the belt at Rumble. It could be a good way to slow burn the Angle/Lesnar feud even more as one of them (probably Angle) faces Benoit at No Way Out to bring the title back into the storyline. I could even remotely see a Lesnar/Angle/Benoit 3-way at No Way Out as a taste of the Lesnar/Angle match for Wrestlemania. Have one of them finish Benoit only to have the other somehow steal the pinfall.

As for Edge, I would suspect his title reign will start at Summerslam. It just seems appropriate for some reason. And there's always the chance that lottery would go back up to $100,000,000 again and be won by some fangirl who would give it to Vince in exchange for a short Jeff Hardy title run. Hrm... I wonder how much Vince would want in exchange for booking control of Raw for one month.
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#5 Posted on
Just sleep with his daughter.

I'm kidding! I like to joke!

Of the list given, I'd pick Booker T over Edge first, as Booker seems to be the net choice for winning the belt from HHH at Mania. RVD won't make it... his contract is running out and he's not a long-term guy.
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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by InVerse
    If Booker T would count as a "new" champion, then so would Steiner and I would say Steiner has at least a 5% chance of winning the belt at the Rumble, which is better odds than anyone else has had for awhile on the Raw side.

    And the way things have been building, I wouldn't be overly shocked to see Benoit win the belt at Rumble. It could be a good way to slow burn the Angle/Lesnar feud even more as one of them (probably Angle) faces Benoit at No Way Out to bring the title back into the storyline. I could even remotely see a Lesnar/Angle/Benoit 3-way at No Way Out as a taste of the Lesnar/Angle match for Wrestlemania. Have one of them finish Benoit only to have the other somehow steal the pinfall.

    As for Edge, I would suspect his title reign will start at Summerslam. It just seems appropriate for some reason. And there's always the chance that lottery would go back up to $100,000,000 again and be won by some fangirl who would give it to Vince in exchange for a short Jeff Hardy title run. Hrm... I wonder how much Vince would want in exchange for booking control of Raw for one month.






Considering the Rumble is the one time where most Benoit supporters on the net would understand him not getting the World Title in order to strengthen Angle for the Lesnar Mania match, under McMahon logic it would be the time that Benoit gets the world title.



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#7 Posted on
Either Edge or Booker T.
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I'm going to go with the outside shot and say Goldberg (if he counts). Otherwise I'll go with Edge. I don't see Booker ever getting it, even though I love the guy.



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#9 Posted on
Using my eternal and undying optimism, I'm going to say RVD at Wrestlemania. Also, as a wild card candidate, how's about Eddie? I could see him getting a Jericho push(tee hee) if he manages to stay clean long enough.



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#10 Posted on
Either Booker T or RVD.



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The following post expresses the opinions of a raving Jerichoholic. He is biased, opinionated and bitter. You have been warned.

Hmm. What do I think?

Booker T: Possibly at No Way Out, probably not at WrestleMania. Could be a favorite for SummerSlam, though, if they do the KOR-gets-shot thing again.

Edge: Pretty much the same as the Bookerman, although Judgment Day could be kind to our Canadian friend.

Benoit: See Edge if he doesn't win at Rumble.

RVD: I still don't believe that WWE will let him go, so I'll say that he's the third guy I'd put on my list of KOR winners.

Eddie: No way. Even if he does stay clean, He'd need to break up with Chavo and have many things fall right just to get a shot.

Goldberg: Longshot to win the Royal Rumble match itself, coming down to a job at WrestleMania. Won't happen.

Steiner: No. He's still fresh in the crowd's eyes, and I don't know if he can last through one match, never mind a one-month title reign.

Batista: Very unlikely, but I think he'll get the Diesel push at the Rumble this year.

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(edited by gugs on 11.1.03 1242)

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#12 Posted on
It's so sad the way WWE just dropped the ball on all four of those guys.

When Benoit fought Rock at Fully Loaded in 2000, they should have let him actually win the belt right there, instead of doing the Dusty Finish. Right after, Benoit was in a mid-card feud with Jericho, then re-formed the Radicalz, which meant teaming with Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn, who were already perceived as jobbers by that point.

Booker T could have been a superstar right when he walked in the WWF door back in July of 2001. All Vince had to do was treat him like one, but I guess that was too much for McMahon to handle. Booker soon found himself teaming with Test and Goldust, and losing to teams like Spike Dudley & Tazz. Then, in the spring and summer of this year, Booker was one of THE most over guys in WWE. Was he pushed? No. His teaming with Goldust just moved along, as they lost to Lance Storm & Christian on numerous occasions. They finally won the Tag gold in December, only to lose it three weeks later.

After feuding with Kurt Angle this spring, Edge could and should have been pushed directly up the card. Instead he just stayed in the midcard, just trudging along. He was placed in matches with good workers to make himself look like a bonafide superstar all fall. Then, he feuded with Albert. That could have been death, but luckily, the feud was kept short, and Albert looked like a total loser by the end of it, never getting a chance to beat Edge. Edge still gets great reactions from the crowd. It might not be too late with Edge, but if they don't do anything with him soon, it will be.

Personally, I think Rob Van Dam's failure to go up to the main-events is the most inexcusable. I know many don't think much of him as a worker, and that's fine. But put in a tape of him in the fall of 2001, and tell me he did not deserve to be in the main-events. Listen as the crowd goes absolutley ape-shit whenever he was on TV, and tell me he didn't deserve to be champion. Didn't deserve to be in their with the likes of Austin or Rock or Angle or Hunter. Vince McMahon was just HANDED this gold-mine in RVD. He didn't have to work for it or anything. It just fell in his lap. The ball was thrown RIGHT TO HIM. But instead of running with it, he fumbled it, picked it up, and threw it back on the ground. Then stomped it until it was totally deflated. After a quick (and very entertaining) feud with Austin, RVD was quickly buried. He lasted a total of 2 minutes in the Royal Rumble, then went on to feud with Goldust. He then had a good feud with Eddie Guerrero, and soon became the number one face on RAW during the summer, feuding with Brock Lesnar. He was soon buried by Triple H and wasn't even on last month's PPV. He is now a part of a comedy team with Kane, and it doesn't look like it'll get much better anytime soon.

Will there be a rookie champion this year? Maybe. But at this rate, it will sooner be Bradshaw than a guy who actually deserves it. A guy like one of these four.

I'm just warning you.

(edited by OMEGA on 11.1.03 1440)


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#13 Posted on

    Originally posted by OMEGA
    After a quick (and very entertaining) feud with Austin, RVD was quickly buried.


I may have missed this, but how exactly did RVD feud with Austin? I don't recall any 1-on-1 pay-per-view matches between them. The closest they came was Angle/Austin/RVD.



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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by OMEGA
    br>Booker T could have been a superstar right when he walked in the WWF door back in July of 2001. All Vince had to do was treat him like one, but I guess that was too much for McMahon to handle. Booker soon found himself teaming with Test and Goldust, and losing to teams like Spike Dudley & Tazz. Then, in the spring and summer of this year, Booker was one of THE most over guys in WWE. Was he pushed? No. His teaming with Goldust just moved along, as they lost to Lance Storm & Christian on numerous occasions. They finally won the Tag gold in December, only to lose it three weeks later.








Come on, you don't think Vince would actually let someone have no matches on Television and then put them in a World Title feud without seeing what they can do in a WWF/E style match, do you? Oh wait, forgot about the exciting Billy Jack Haynes/Hercules Hernandez WWE Title feud that's currently occurring.



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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by probleus

      Originally posted by OMEGA
      After a quick (and very entertaining) feud with Austin, RVD was quickly buried.


    I may have missed this, but how exactly did RVD feud with Austin? I don't recall any 1-on-1 pay-per-view matches between them. The closest they came was Angle/Austin/RVD.



Basically, it was RVD getting under Austin's skin for being a face and for taking the title shot.



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#16 Posted on
I can see Book taking it at 'Mania if H holds onto it. He hasn't really been buried, as much as we like to say he has. He had that one match where he lost fairly clean to Trips before the Elimination Chamber match, but it was on a RAW where nothing happened and no one will remember it if it isn't brought up.

He is the only RAW talent of that calibre who is fathomable in the title match at 'Mania. RVD is done and can't cut promos for grown-ups anyway. Steiner obviously isn't cookin' it at Mania with Trips if they're meeting at the Rumble; otherwise they wouldn't have given it away. Book is our only choice unless they go back to Shawn. And they won't because it looks like Shawn/Jericho at 'Mania.

I wouldn't be surprised if they put it on Edge but I wouldn't bet on it. If he can stay at this level for another year I can see it in 2004. He needs a chance to cut semi-regular promos and develop catchphrases. If they were going to crown him with the big belt this year, don't you think they'd be letting him talk?

Eddy would be perfect in the role of small, amazing wrestler who always pulls it out. On top of that, he could do it as a face because everyone respects Eddy so much. They gave him that tiny opening for the fans to cheer for him by putting him against Cena and look what happened. He's a face just like that. I don't see why the WWE doesn't do the ethnic champion thing anymore that they used to draw huge houses with in the 70's. Use Eddy to target the Hispanic community, as Morales was used. It could work today and Eddy's nine times the wrestler that anyone who isn't Kurt or Benoit is, anyway. I'd personally give him a 6-month reign after Brock takes it from Angle. It'll never happen but since Eddy's not young I'd say now is the time. Same thing for Booker...He's not young either so 2003 is the year to get all you can out of him.

But what do I know, I'm not a former Conan O'Brien writer.

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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by IPowerbombedKidman

    Basically, it was RVD getting under Austin's skin for being a face and for taking the title shot.



Does this mean that Tazz and Spike Dudley feuded with Steve Austin too? I know RVD and Austin had a singles match on Smackdown, but I don't think they really pulled the trigger on a feud between the two.





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#18 Posted on
    Originally posted by probleus

      Originally posted by IPowerbombedKidman

      Basically, it was RVD getting under Austin's skin for being a face and for taking the title shot.



    Does this mean that Tazz and Spike Dudley feuded with Steve Austin too? I know RVD and Austin had a singles match on Smackdown, but I don't think they really pulled the trigger on a feud between the two.



Austin did feud with both Tazz and Spike. Well sort of. When Stone Cold was a heel he was trying to get some papers signed for something and I don't remember what. But he tried to get Spike and Molly to sign but said something deragtory to Molly, so Spike ripped up the papers and they had a match later. Also Tazz had problems with Stone Cold from the beginning of the invasion to a while into it. They even teased him attacking Stone Cold a few times and Tazz was getting good crowd reactions because it. It could've been a great feud but they just kind of dropped it like most things.


Actually I guess those aren't really full fledged feuds, but they did have some interaction with each other.

As for my list.
1. Scott Steiner, i think he has a 50/50 chance to win the title at Royal Rumble so that would make him first.
2. Chris Benoit, Yeah i realized it's between Lesnar/Angle but I think Benoit could possibly get a surprise win at the RUmble, if not he'll win it later this year.
3. Edge, same as Benoit
4. Eddie, a darkhorse, although it would be hard to have a Lesnar/Angle feud then have the winner kept the belt long enough to look strong, and then hotshot the titles to all three of Benoit, Edge, Eddie, so maybe not. But there's always the possibility of them switching shows.

As for RVD and Booker T, I don't see either one of them as World Champions. I'd take Christian, Matt, Kanyon and Rhyno before either one of them.

(edited by Quezzy on 11.1.03 1635)


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#19 Posted on

    Originally posted by OMEGA
    It's so sad the way WWE just dropped the ball on all four of those guys.

    When Benoit fought Rock at Fully Loaded in 2000, they should have let him actually win the belt right there, instead of doing the Dusty Finish. Right after, Benoit was in a mid-card feud with Jericho, then re-formed the Radicalz, which meant teaming with Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn, who were already perceived as jobbers by that point.


    After feuding with Kurt Angle this spring, Edge could and should have been pushed directly up the card. Instead he just stayed in the midcard, just trudging along. He was placed in matches with good workers to make himself look like a bonafide superstar all fall. Then, he feuded with Albert. That could have been death, but luckily, the feud was kept short, and Albert looked like a total loser by the end of it, never getting a chance to beat Edge. Edge still gets great reactions from the crowd. It might not be too late with Edge, but if they don't do anything with him soon, it will be.



Funny..I think they are doing the best thing they could do with Edge.
1 - get him higher up the card by having a hot feud with Angle.
2 - sustain that push and get him really over by having him feud with guys that are incredible wrestlers.
3 - Give him the super baby face entrance and offense everything to get him super over.
4 - To see how he handles and creates heat against NON-incredible (over) wrestlers you have him feud with a lesser guy. How does he do when HE has to bring the workrate, the heat and everything?
5 - Put him back in another interesting feud (part of the posse against Team Angle)
6 - (to happen somewhere next year) give him the title(shot)

As for Benoit..I don't know. Back when he feuded with the Rock I am not sure if he would have been ready for the title. The crowd didn't like him because he feuded with the Rock.
Now they gotten to see more of him, how wicked awesome he is. Why he doesn't talk all that much but kicks ass none theless.
I think this year will be the year of Benoit..



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#20 Posted on
Well, last night on Velocity, Ernest Miller stated that Chuck Palumbo would be the next world champion, so I guess this debate is settled.
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