I don't care if he's all gray now or not. I'd love it if he came to Raw and started yelling at someone in the middle of a match. Personally, I think this is a better look than those awful cowboy hats and outfits with tassles all over them.
Originally posted by Dexley's Midnight JoggerI don't care if he's all gray now or not. I'd love it if he came to Raw and started yelling at someone in the middle of a match. Personally, I think this is a better look than those awful cowboy hats and outfits with tassles all over them.
He would only be fed to Orton.
I like the beard, myself. Harley looks freakishly cherubic in that photo. I think I would look older if I stood next to him.
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He's looked like that for a few years now except he usually has his hair and beard dyed black. Physically, he doesn't look bad and could still go with most the guys wrestling now, but Vince just won't give the guy the spot he deserves.
The reason Mach doesn't have the spot he deserves is that he won't take it. As TNA found out last time they signed him, he's only going to wrestle if he's handed the title--and surely you're not saying that that's the spot he deserves, are you, Cerebus?
Originally posted by CerebusHe's looked like that for a few years now except he usually has his hair and beard dyed black. Physically, he doesn't look bad and could still go with most the guys wrestling now, but Vince just won't give the guy the spot he deserves.
The only spot Macho deserves is a hall of fame induction and a 3 disc DVD set.
He doesn't have the name Hogan has, and while I have no doubt the idea of the Macho Man vs. John Cena could get the fans in a frenzy for Wrestlemania, it would all go to HELL the minute the idea leaves paper and Macho walks out looking old and haggered.
I'd normally get excited about any prospects of an oldie making a comeback for a one shot deal, but I saw Savage in TNA at the end of 2004 and it was a disaster. I don't need to see him do that to himself again.
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Savage can only blame Savage for how he is remembered in wrestling history.
He is such a control freak that he insists that every spot in every match be laid out in extreme detail. That is why Steamboat is not a huge fan of Wrestlemania III, he thought it was too mechanical, and that if one sequence had gone bad Savage would of completely fallen apart. His feud with DDP was agonizing for WCW agents because neither guy was able to function on the fly.
Vince took Savage leaving him harder than when Hogan did. Hogan had already testified against Vince in court so their relationship was crap anyway. Savage though was under steady employment, being given a charity announcing job when their was no one left for him to feud with or anyone he was willing to put over. Savage owed Vince big time, and we all know the alleged rumors of Savage and the McMahon family.
If Savage gets a DVD treatment it will be of the Ultimate Warrior variety. His enjoyment of locking up wives and girlfriends is good at least for 1-2 chapters. All his good matches were a result of guys like Steamboat and Flair who could carry him. And when he worked with guys like Hogan, Warrior, DDP, Nash, and Sid he turned into mister average robo wrestler at best.
Originally posted by majikxAnd when he worked with guys like Hogan, Warrior, DDP, Nash, and Sid he turned into mister average robo wrestler at best.
I'm not sure if that's your opinion or if that's how you're saying they would spin it for a DVD release, but it's a ridiculous argument.
Savage carried Hogan, DDP and Warrior to some of (if not the) best matches of their respective careers. You can use the argument that he planned everything out second by second, but I don't see that as a problem if he can pull it off. In fact I find it even more impressive when I hear of notebooks full of step-by-step plans as I can't think of many who seemed as unpredictable in the ring as Savage.
Right up until 1998 when he finally screwed his knee up for the last time he was still wrestling like a guy half his age. And for two guys over the age of 40 who apparently couldn't work without a script, Savage and DDP had one of the hottest feuds in terms of both angles and match quality in the whole of 1997.
Originally posted by majikxSavage can only blame Savage for how he is remembered in wrestling history.
I don't necessarily see that as a negative thing. This isn't a guy like Warrior who had two years on top, pissed everyone off, then disappeared. Savage was one of the most well known wrestlers on TV for almost 20 years and I think the majority of fans remember him fondly. It would take far more effort and spin to convincingly vilify him than it did for someone like Warrior.
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