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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
It's Girl Power week for the new DCU. Starting off with three of DC's biggest female guns, so to speak.

Wonder Woman #1. Different. I'm a worshipper of George Perez's 1986 reboot of Wonder Woman post-Crisis, so that's the standard I hold all Wonder Woman to. This wasn't bad, though. I liked the re-design and reinvention of the Greek gods. Zeus is missing, and he's up to some shenanigans involving the usual... impregnating human women. Hera seems to be hunting down his latest conquest, a girl named Zola who's unaware she's pregnant by Zeus. There are centaurs and Hermes is reimagined as a N'avi from Avatar with bird feet. As an introduction to Wonder Woman, it's not really. We don't learn anything about her we don't already know: She has the classic costume, slightly tweaked with dark boots. She has bracelets and a magic lasso. Her power levels aren't clear; don't know if she can fly or not. But I thought the new look gods were intriguing, especially Apollo, who's rich and uses three hot women as Oracles atop a skyscraper. It's different, but I guess I liked it.

Supergirl #1. I've always had a soft spot for Kara Zor-El, including the Jeph Loeb/Michael Turner teen sex kitten. The new Supergirl lands in a meteor shower in Russia with no memories (though she first assumes she's on Krypton which indicates the new Krypton is not an ice crystal world). Then a bunch of Russian soldiers in ED-209 battlesuits attack her and she fights them, slowly confusedly discovering some of her powers. That's it, really. She doesn't speak English or Russian. And then Superman shows up in the last page, just like he did in the last page of Justice League #1. A lot of fighting and action, but not much more otherwise.

Catwoman #1. This was more interesting than expected. And by "interesting", I mean "softcore pornographic." Judd Winnick's Catwoman is in full-on sex kitten mode, speaking of. Anonymous people torch her apartment, which leads to introducing her new handler in crime, and leads Selina into a Russian sex club filled with hookers and gangsters. Then a wild left turn: she sees an old Russian gangster who turned out to be the man who murdered her mother in front of her eyes as a child. So Selina corners him in the rest room, seemingly murders him, and then makes her escape as Catwoman. Then Batman shows up in the penthouse Selina is squatting in, not remotely angry or even aware she killed someone, and they get to humping. Bat and Cat humping. The last few pages becomes a sex book. And it's not the first time they've humped. Batman and Catwoman are total fuck buddies.

And now the main event:

Batman #1. This was really good. I liked the neat little shout outs to Batman 1989, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Scott Snyder wove in. And Batman does a lot more detective work in here than he did in Detective Comics. Continuing the stuff set up in Batman and Robin #1, Bruce Wayne is implementing a massive initiative to rebuild Gotham and secure its future. This leads to a neat scene involving Bruce in black tie with all three of his "sons", Dick, Tim and Damian. But before that is Batman in Arkham fighting off a prison riot by Two Face, Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, and others with help from... The Joker?! (But how does this fit into the Face/Off last scene in Detective #1?) It ends with a big mystery involving a shocking murder suspect who once wore green underpants and a yellow cape. No, not Jason Todd. Or Damian Wayne. Or Tim Drake. Batman #1 was really well written, rich in characterizations. It's really good, I say again.

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So, DC's answer to the feminist outcries is women are either lost in confused or sex objects regardless they need a strong man around. Christ, I am so glad I don't work for DC my wife would have my balls for the Selina shit. Wonder Woman sounds promising, but after JMS' run I am sick to death with the Gods. Where is Cheetha or some DCU villains for her to throw around? Not feeling anything in the New DCU.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I missed updating last week so a brief summary of what I got:
Green Lantern-This was not really what I was looking for. It wasn't awful, but this isn't something I really want to read anymore either.
Batwoman-This was fantastic. The character development was great and this is definitely one of the more well drawn books out of the new batch.
Suicide Squad-What a mess, but nothing I can say here hasn't already been said by many other online journalists/bloggers.
Demon Knights-This was one of the more interesting books out there. I know next to nothing about most of these characters, but it seemed like it would be fun. The story set up almost seems like a game of D&D with all of the heroes meeting up in a bar and then having it being attacked. Definitely interested in where this is going.

Now onto this week

Green Lantern Corps-This was not bad. They introduce the characters well, and then send them off on their adventure. Admittedly, not too much action in this one, but the way this ends makes me look forward to the next issue.
Batman-Full agreement with John, this was very well done. The only minor complaint I had was the art was a bit odd as this seemed to have almost an anime style which is ok, just looked a little different.
Blue Beetle-This was a surprise to me because this was an issue I picked up for a one and done just to check it out but I am going to stick with it. A very cool story point making the beetle scarabs known by green lanterns and have them want to take them out because they are dangerous weapons. The only complaint (and this is very nit-picky) is none of the teenage characters look like teenagers, they all look like seniors in college instead of sophomores/juniors in high school. Again, this was a very nice first issue.

From what I read this week (and a couple last week) this is more what I expected from the relaunch. After reading reviews, I may need to pick up Wonder Woman I guess.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
    Originally posted by lotjx
    So, DC's answer to the feminist outcries is women are either lost in confused or sex objects regardless they need a strong man around. Christ, I am so glad I don't work for DC my wife would have my balls for the Selina shit.


Then you better stay the fuck away from Red Hood and The Outlaws #1. When DC said The New 52 would be more "accessible", they really meant Starfire would be. Because SHE IS AN ALIEN WITH A PORN STAR BODY AND SHE LIKES TO BE NAKED AND LIKES TO FUCK. (comicsalliance.com)

This is how Tamaraneans have been revamped: They don't really tell the difference between humans. Humans are a collection of "sights" and "sounds" to them. And they like like to fuck. Starfire has fucked many of the Titans, because that's what she likes to do. Finally, the DCU has living, breathing Real Dolls from outer space. If you like to fuck, better hope you end up on a superhero team with Starfire like Roy Harper and Jason Todd did, because Starfire WILL FUCK YOU.






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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by lotjx

      If you like to fuck, better hope you end up on a superhero team with Starfire like Roy Harper and Jason Todd did, because Starfire WILL FUCK YOU.





    Why do I now envision this as something someone would use as a recruiting pitch to get more heroes on the Outlaws team?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
But, but Star was the cute innocent one in the Titan Teen cartoons. I feel dirty now.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
So what is Jason Todd like this week? Angsty anti-hero or delusional psychotic?
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97

Comics blogger Laura Hudson's take on Starfire and Catwoman

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/22/starfire-catwoman-sex-superheroine/

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.23
I know I’m late to the party, but I just wanted to throw out my brief thoughts about the books I picked up so far. This is my first mass exposure to comics. Please...take it easy on me. Over time, I’ll learn how to articulate why I like one book’s art over another, how to develop characters’ voices in my head as I read, and which writers to obsessively worship and which ones to obsessively hate. But for now, all I know is which books hooked me and which ones didn’t.

One thing that seems to be common in most of these books: lovely violence. I never realized that it was so prevalent or that these books were so “adult.”

When choosing which ones to buy, I found myself, on paper, to be more attracted to the Dark and the Edge titles. Also, based on the movies and cartoons and TV shows I’ve seen over the years: (1) I’m a huge Batman fan, but there are way too many books in his corner of the DCU. I probably won’t read all of them. (2) I have nothing against Superman, but he’s just not my thing. I’ll end up reading a few of his books to see how they are. (3) I don’t like Green Lantern and will probably not read any of those books.


Week 1

Justice League – will probably continue to read just for the sake of keeping up with the flagship title.


Week 2

Action Comics – I loved the art in this book. It was perfectly fine, but as I said, Superman doesn’t really do it for me.

Animal Man – Still looking to get myself a copy.

Detective Comics – Echoing what others have said: dark, twisted, violent, awesome.

Green Arrow – Nothing here thrilled me. Cheesy dialogue, boring story.

Stormwatch – I don’t know what’s going on here yet, but secret societies are cool to me. I’m educating myself on the history of Stormwatch and The Authority. I love (not really) how it literally tells you to read Superman #1 in three weeks to fill in a piece of the story.

Swamp Thing – For whatever reason, I never got into Swamp Thing as a kid. I’m giving this a chance to see what I’ve been missing. I think I liked this. Will re-read before deciding if I continue with this.


Week 3

Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E. – Picked this up based on John’s review, and I'm not sure I have the words for it. So weird. The art is SO rough, but it serves the book well, I think. I *think* this is awesome. It’s definitely memorable.

Grifter – Was one that I was really looking forward to. Don’t know anything about the character. Liked it well enough to keep going.

Legion Lost – I’m...not sure if I liked this. So much going on. Will have to re-read once or twice.

Mister Terrific – I wanted to like this so much because I was interested in the premise, but sadly, no dice. The character is so cheesy. And awkward at times.

Resurrection Man – Favorite book so far. Love the character and the premise. Loved the art, which reminds me so much of The Sandman. Love the dialogue, especially the interrogation of the coroner.

Superboy – This was a late Week 3 addition because I was intrigued by the premise. I’m interested in how they tell this story – how Superboy develops identity, consciousness and conscience. I laughed OL when he walked by the burning house.


Week 4

Batman – Loved it. A little spot I liked a lot was Bruce activating the facial recognition algorithm to identify Dick, Damian and Tim. It was maybe a way to introduce these characters (and their current alter-egos) to a new guy like me.

Captain Atom – A little cheesy in spots, but overall, I like this. And I like Dr. Manhattan.

DC Universe Presents: Deadman – Loved the character and the premise.

Wonder Woman – If I’m being honest here, I have to admit that I never knew Wonder Woman’s origin. I’m ashamed to admit that. But now I do. And this was so, so awesome. I’m a huge fan of Greek mythology. This was probably my favorite art of any book I read, especially the cover. The only problem is that this thing took about 60 seconds to read.


That’s 17 of 39 that I’ve read (well, 16 not counting Animal Man). I count 11 that I will definitely continue reading.

Justice League
Detective Comics
Stormwatch
Frankenstein
Grifter
Resurrection Man
Superboy
Batman
Captain Atom
DCU Presents (at least through the end of the Deadman story)
Wonder Woman

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    When choosing which ones to buy, I found myself, on paper, to be more attracted to the Dark and the Edge titles


The Dark and Edge titles have been by and large the most intriguing and entertaining of the New 52 books. Myself, as much as I love superheroes, I'm also an adult who is mindful that they're a juvenile affectation. Swamp Thing, Frankenstein, and Demon Knights were a lot of fun; as I said before, they reminded me of classic Vertigo comics from the early 1990s. And I sincerely hope you get ahold of a copy of Animal Man soon. Incidentally, you might want to seek out Alan Moore's Swamp Thing some time. Those are simply great, and wait until you get to the American Gothic storyline...

    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Also, based on the movies and cartoons and TV shows I’ve seen over the years: (1) I’m a huge Batman fan, but there are way too many books in his corner of the DCU. I probably won’t read all of them. (2) I have nothing against Superman, but he’s just not my thing. I’ll end up reading a few of his books to see how they are. (3) I don’t like Green Lantern and will probably not read any of those books.


Myself, I love Batman, but I agree, I won't continue reading all of the various Bat family of books. Batman and Batman and Robin will probably be what I stick to going forward.

I love Superman even more than I do Batman, but I can honestly count on less than five fingers how many great Superman comics I've ever read. Action Comics would take up a finger. Superman, for being the first and greatest superhero, is also the hardest to get right.

I like Green Lantern in theory, but hardly ever in execution. Especially with all the different colored Lanterns. Fuck that. I've no interest in a crayola box full of Lanterns with books to match.

    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Wonder Woman – If I’m being honest here, I have to admit that I never knew Wonder Woman’s origin. I’m ashamed to admit that. But now I do. And this was so, so awesome. I’m a huge fan of Greek mythology.


If you love Greek mythology, I suggest in the strongest possible manner you seek out George Perez's 1986-1988 reboot of Wonder Woman, conveniently collected in affordable trade paperbacks:

Gods and Mortals (Volume 1) (amazon.com)
Challenge of the Gods (Volume 2) (amazon.com)
Beauty and the Beasts (Volume 3) (amazon.com)
Destiny Calling (Volume 4) (amazon.com)

THAT is Wonder Woman. There's never been a finer version.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
I'm wondering at this point if we can call in and vote for Jason Todd to die again. I can't count how many times they've tried to reboot him in the last five years and every try seems to fail more than the last. Everything about this book is wretched. Starfire's already been talked about at length, but it has to be mentioned that this reboot was supposed to fix Arsenal's broken character and they STILL made him a total douchebag! Unbelievable!

Batman's the only pass I read from the week's pile, though I admittedly didn't buy too much. I'll be able to weigh in a little better on next week's pile. JL Dark is at the top of my pull list.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
    Originally posted by Mr Shh


    One thing that seems to be common in most of these books: lovely violence. I never realized that it was so prevalent or that these books were so “adult.”




The DCU (and Marvel to be fair) has been coarsening for quite a while now. Given that Geoff Johns is one of the bigger culprits of the hyperviolence trend and he is now Chief Creative Officer of the DCU, it shouldn't be a surprise.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
Batman #1 - Liked it. But not as good as Detective #1. Interesting detail I caught with the faciel recognition software has that Dick, Tim, and Damien all had "High" priority, but Alfred had "Highest". Cool touch, but I call BS that Dick would be on equal footing with Damien when it comes to security.

Nightwing #1 - Good, but not great. I like Nightwing (almost wrote something else...whew). However, I've never gotten into his solo books. He just doesn't have the cast of characters in them. Should have put Babs in his book at least. He also needs some decent villains. Todd would have been a great arch nemesis if he wasn't the Lex Luger of comics.
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Okay, I was going to wait until I'd read all the nDCU #1s that I was going to read, but all I have left is Firestorm, and I probably won't get around to that for another two weeks. So far I've read:

JLI
Batgirl
Demon Knights
Legion Lost
Legion of Super-Heroes
Birds of Prey
Resurrection Man

And here's the thing; they're all good enough, I like them (some more than others), and I'll stick with them at least through the first arc to see where they're going. But the whole point of this initiative was to bring in new readers, readers who weren't buying the books before the reboot. Under these conditions, the books are colossal failures. LOSH is a simple continuation of the old series, with no less than 4 plot points carried over from the old series without any explanation whatsoever. If you weren't already reading it, you are lost. Birds of Prey is completely new, but doesn't provide adequate information for a good #1. JLI, Batgirl, and to a much lesser extent, Legion Lost, at least explain their premises pretty well, but unquestionably rely on the reader already having some fondness for the characters and knowledge of their histories. Demon Knights, which I liked quite a lot, was particularly bad about pretending that every reader already knew who the characters were and what they could do. No explanations for Vandal Savage, Madame Xanadu, or Shining Knight. And Etrigan's introduction was spectacularly unspectacular. This was supposed to be an introduction for people. Give Etrigan the long-form transformation sequence, with the full incantation so that he seems really special. This was so very clearly a book aimed at people who already know who Etrigan is and want to read a book about him. The only one of the books I've read that really seemed like a genuine introduction to the character and his world was Resurrection Man. Mitch Shelly's whole deal gets laid out, and we find out what he's up against. Should be simple enough, but nobody else thought it was important to do even though it was ostensibly the whole reason for the "New 52."
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