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PowerPB13
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Since: 25.4.02
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NWA-TNA

Hmm, you've got wrestlers that can put on cool matches, so you send 'em out there and let 'em put on cool matches. Is that so hard? Even the most diehard WWF/E supporter can hardly dispute that people like A.J. Styles, Amazing Red, and Jason Cross would never have gotten an opportunity to shine on a national scale if WWF/E were the only game in town.

On that note...shooting star legdrops rule. (I'm kinda afraid to suggest moves to the GCW crew for fear that they'd actually try them and possibly get hurt and then I'd feel guilty, but then those guys fly around the ring pretty regularly anyway. ;))

I've heard all kinds of good things about NWA-TNA's tag team division, particularly the duo of "America's Most Wanted"(Wildcat Chris Harris & Cowboy James Storm). Only saw a little bit of Harris in his occasional appearances on WCW WorldWide prior to this. Between Harris & Storm, the SATs, Divine Storm, the Disciples Of The New Church, and yes, even the Harris Boys, they've got great depth in that department. Compare that to WWE, which has TWO sets of tag belts and far too many thrown-together duos filling out the tag team divisions(including the current Raw-brand tag champs).

Odd how the one Power Plant graduate that DIDN'T make the Natural Born Thrillers is now the one that's on top of the world, or at least the X Division. Congratulations, Sonny Siaki!

Ron "The Truth" Killings will apparently be in attendance at the ten-year Raw anniversary celebration, temporarily dusting off his K-Kwik persona. One of my online colleagues theorizes that this could mean a potential jump back to WWE. (Oddly, they sure aren't PUSHING him like he's leaving in a month, as he scored a big win over B.G. James on Wednesday night.) My line of thought: WWE, figure out how to use the people you've GOT before signing even more.

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SMACKDOWN

Only quick thoughts here...

Steiner fits in better on Raw anyway. But then that involves the peril of giving him a microphone on a live TV show...

You know, when ECW first invaded Raw back in early 1997, who would have thought that so many of the ECW representatives would have ended up in WWE anyway? Let's take a tally: Stevie, Meanie(temporarily), Nova(in OVW), Taz(z), Raven, Dreamer, both Dudleys, and now the artist formerly known as Little Guido, Nunzio.

Out of the WCW imports, who would have thought that Chavo Guerrero Jr. would be in such a high-profile position?

Weird how Kurt Angle the heel seems to have trouble with a lot of opponents, but Kurt Angle the face is a superman who can throw around super heavyweights and make anyone tap to the anklelock, even Steve Austin. Go fig.

Hey, *I* was the big-mouth who said Albert needed a name change. THEY MUST READ MY WORK! Whoever's reading this: Push D-Lo! Send talent scouts to GCW shows! Give undercard matches longer than four minutes! Err...yeah, moving on now...

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I'll end with this thought: Some of the most ridiculous damn things get over in wrestling. That's why I give just about ANYTHING a chance until it's pretty clearly flopped. But maybe I'm just naive...

-Patrick
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I can't believe it. I just read an entire post by Patrick and not one time did you mention that guy with the three initials who "holds everyone down."



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PowerPB13
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Since: 25.4.02
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I don't know what you're talking about. Besides, this only really focused on NWA-TNA and Smackdown and *name deleted to protect the innocent* doesn't appear on either of those shows.

-Patrick
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"On that note...shooting star legdrops rule."

Yes. The Crossfire is probably the coolest move I've ever seen. It's only a matter of time before someone like Rey rips that off and uses it in WWE.

"'ve heard all kinds of good things about NWA-TNA's tag team division, particularly the duo of "America's Most Wanted"(Wildcat Chris Harris & Cowboy James Storm). Only saw a little bit of Harris in his occasional appearances on WCW WorldWide prior to this. Between Harris & Storm, the SATs, Divine Storm, the Disciples Of The New Church, and yes, even the Harris Boys, they've got great depth in that department. Compare that to WWE, which has TWO sets of tag belts and far too many thrown-together duos filling out the tag team divisions(including the current Raw-brand tag champs)."

Agree 100% on this. TNA's tag division is very deep, and while they aren't all GREAT, most of the workers are pretty good. I like SATs and Divine Storm, but I despise the Harris Boys. I like the Smackdown tag ranks, but everything else in WWE is just haphazard.

"Ron "The Truth" Killings will apparently be in attendance at the ten-year Raw anniversary celebration, temporarily dusting off his K-Kwik persona. One of my online colleagues theorizes that this could mean a potential jump back to WWE. (Oddly, they sure aren't PUSHING him like he's leaving in a month, as he scored a big win over B.G. James on Wednesday night.) My line of thought: WWE, figure out how to use the people you've GOT before signing even more."

If Killings goes back, it'll be to cause trouble. He's made it very clear on several occasions that he wants no part of the WWF because of the way they treated him when he left. Of course, money talks and everyone has a price, but I doubt WWE will even let him in the BUILDING for the anniversary show.

"Weird how Kurt Angle the heel seems to have trouble with a lot of opponents, but Kurt Angle the face is a superman who can throw around super heavyweights and make anyone tap to the anklelock, even Steve Austin. Go fig."

Isn't that how it is supposed to be?

"Send talent scouts to GCW shows!"

HAHAHAHA that would be a wasted trip.
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"The Crossfire is probably the coolest move I've ever seen. It's only a matter of time before someone like Rey rips that off and uses it in WWE."

Not Rey, not with his achy-breaky knee anyway. Besides, Rey already "borrowed" the Code Red.


"If Killings goes back, it'll be to cause trouble. He's made it very clear on several occasions that he wants no part of the WWF because of the way they treated him when he left. Of course, money talks and everyone has a price, but I doubt WWE will even let him in the BUILDING for the anniversary show."

From the radio interview transcript I read, he didn't seem quite as sore at WWE any more and even kissed up to *name deleted* a bit, which some might see as a prerequisite to signing.

""Send talent scouts to GCW shows!"

HAHAHAHA that would be a wasted trip."

In an attempt to provide a mature response...WWE, no, they have trouble figuring out how to use the cruiserweights they have. NWA-TNA, on the other hand, might at least give some of the more promising GCW competitors a tryout to see what they've got.

On that note, what exactly separates the GCW cruiserweights from the indy cruiserweights that have competed for NWA-TNA(some of whom you've evidently become a fan of after having seen them in action)? Several months ago, the SATs and Divine Storm were just as unknown to the general wrestling public as Billy McNeil, Delirious, and others, and they often wrestled in the same type of venues that GCW holds shows in. However, the NWA-TNA competitors you mentioned apparently impressed you when you saw them in action, so what exactly makes you think that McNeil/Delirious/etc. wouldn't also make a good impression?

-Patrick

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"On that note, what exactly separates the GCW cruiserweights from the indy cruiserweights that have competed for NWA-TNA(some of whom you've evidently become a fan of after having seen them in action)? Several months ago, the SATs and Divine Storm were just as unknown to the general wrestling public as Billy McNeil, Delirious, and others, and they often wrestled in the same type of venues that GCW holds shows in. However, the NWA-TNA competitors you mentioned apparently impressed you when you saw them in action, so what exactly makes you think that McNeil/Delirious/etc. wouldn't also make a good impression?"

Actually, we've all known about the SAT's long before they went into the NWA. They've been having good matches with the Briscoe Brothers for quite some time. See, I DO follow indy wrestling, and I enjoy it IF it's good. I've never seen GCW (you never sent me the tape you promised :-)), so the only reason I make fun of them is to get you all riled up. I do remember looking at some pictures of some GCW guys one time, and they looked more at place working cash registers at Walmart than in a wrestling ring, but what do I know.
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In all honesty, during the months before the death sentence for WCW was announced, I thought Chavo had the potential to be a US Champ, and perhaps someday be a World Champ. Chavo was one of the biggest wastes they had during the Invasion, and if not for Uncle Eddy getting cleaned up, he probably would have been released months ago in one of the worst decisions that could be made. Another reason to be grateful Eddy cleaned up.
Scott Steiner on a live mic: Please, just bring in Dingbat, and see which one makes less sense on the mic, which can actually go over 1 minute in a match, and most importantly, which one disappears/gets injured first. At most, it would be a two week feud.



I want you to know, I agree with everything I've just said.
PowerPB13
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    Originally posted by JJBotter
    "On that note, what exactly separates the GCW cruiserweights from the indy cruiserweights that have competed for NWA-TNA(some of whom you've evidently become a fan of after having seen them in action)? Several months ago, the SATs and Divine Storm were just as unknown to the general wrestling public as Billy McNeil, Delirious, and others, and they often wrestled in the same type of venues that GCW holds shows in. However, the NWA-TNA competitors you mentioned apparently impressed you when you saw them in action, so what exactly makes you think that McNeil/Delirious/etc. wouldn't also make a good impression?"

    Actually, we've all known about the SAT's long before they went into the NWA. They've been having good matches with the Briscoe Brothers for quite some time. See, I DO follow indy wrestling, and I enjoy it IF it's good. I've never seen GCW (you never sent me the tape you promised :-)), so the only reason I make fun of them is to get you all riled up. I do remember looking at some pictures of some GCW guys one time, and they looked more at place working cash registers at Walmart than in a wrestling ring, but what do I know.



Don't judge a book by its cover, someone once said. I'll leave it at that. And I think the GCW owner would be the first to admit that the company is run on what could politely be described as a "sparse" budget.

I'd send a tape, but I don't know if you'd just say "Shut up, just shut up"...

-Patrick

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"if you'd just say "Shut up, just shut up"..."

Be fair -- the only times I've ever done that are when you're being your super-smarmy self and whining about how everyone else criticizes wrestling. :-)
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