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Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

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Well, it's September 15th and at midnight ET tonight the current Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NHL and the NHLPA will expire. Both sides are far apart on a deal, moreso than in 1994 when they had a strike that cut the NHL season to 48 games. Expect a long lockout.

-By the way, midnight ET is ALSO the deadline for any unsigned free agents to sign contracts. Nobody can sign until a new CBA is hammered out, including unsigned draft picks like the Flames' Dion Phaneuf. All 2003 CHL players have to be signed by June 1, 2005 or they're *supposed* to get back into the draft...but if there's still a lockout in June they'll probably address this.
-If there's no deal in place by January, there'll be no season and the NHL won't allow it's players to play in the 2006 Winter Olympics (as they won't be able to allow another work stoppage).

For the heck of it, notable free agents (both restricted and not):
RESTRICTED: Jarome Iginla [Flames], Peter Forsberg [Avalanche], Pavel Datsyuk [Red Wings], Radek Dvorak [Oilers], Mike Comrie [Coyotes], Chris Pronger [Blues], Dany Heatley [Thrashers], Ilya Kovalchuk [Thrashers], Andrew Raycroft [Bruins], Josef Vacicek [Hurricanes], Olli Jokinen [Panthers], Michael Ryder [Canadiens], Rick DiPietro [Isles], Roman Hamrlik [Isles], Martin Havlat [Senators], Martin St. Louis [Lightning]
UNRESTRICTED: Theoren Fleury [Blackhawks/Rehab], Paul Kariya [Avalanche], Teemu Selanne [Avalanche], Chris Chelios [Red Wings], Ziggy Palffy [Kings], Luc Robitaille [Kings], Jason Allison [Kings], Josef Stumpel [Kings], Anson Carter [Kings], Adam Deadmarsh [Kings], Al MacInnis [Blues], Pavol Demitra [Blues], Johan Hedberg [Canucks], Byron Dafoe [Thrashers], Alexei Zhitnik [Sabres], Alexei Kovalev [Canadiens], Pavel Bure [Rangers], Eric Lindros [Rangers], Mark Messier [Rangers], Peter Bondra [Senators], Alexei Zhamnov [Flyers], Mario Lemieux [Penguins] & Ron Francis [Leafs]

Could be a rush of signings before the CBA ends. Or...not.



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The strike through is a nice touch for this forum.
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Since: 3.10.02
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Welcome to the new AHL forums! Its like the NHL, but without the talent or huge salaries!



Thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

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Since: 2.1.02
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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Go Hitmen!

It's extraordinarily depressing in that the media has spoken of this lockout continuously since the 2002 playoffs, and there's been little effort to fix this problem. I wonder if we'll see hockey this year.
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Since: 11.1.02
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
Well, my cousin is now playing for the Victoriaville Tigres in the QMJHL...so let's all cheer for him instead of the NHL!





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Since: 9.12.01
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Remember, the San Diego Gulls are a great team with a bandwagon that has room for all of you.

Go ECHL!



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Since: 6.1.02
From: Outer reaches of your mind

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
The EAST coast hockey league has a team in San Diego, California... Time to get the E out.



smark/net attack wienerville advisory is raised to ORANGE alert - High (Benoit lost the title to some punk kid named Orton, lets look at the positive at least it's a heel not named HHH who has the title, which allows two fresh faces battling for the World title.. whaat? excuse me? what happened on Raw! well scratch that... Over to Smackdown we wave at Justin Bradshaws title reign, I think I'm getting sea sick)- 8/22
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Since: 12.1.02
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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Remember, the San Diego Gulls are a great team with a bandwagon that has room for all of you.

    Go ECHL!


Bah. The Gulls are like the Yankees of the ECHL (former WCHL). Support YOUR Fresno Fighting Falcons.
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Since: 9.12.01
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Don't hate us because we're beautiful, or for the weather.

Hate us for our Hockey.



Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
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Since: 3.10.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.13
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    The Gulls are like the Yankees of the ECHL (former WCHL). Support YOUR Fresno Fighting Falcons.


Wouldnt that mean that San Diego has won continuously since going to the E?





Thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

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Freeway
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Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40
Where the hell can you see NHL-esque action during the lock-out? Two places, the American Hockey League & the East Coast Hockey League!

ANAHEIM: Cincinnati Mighty Ducks (AHL), San Diego Gulls (ECHL)
ATLANTA: Chicago Wolves (AHL), Gwinnett Gladiators (ECHL)
BOSTON: Providence Bruins (AHL)
BUFFALO: Rochester Americans (AHL)
CALGARY: Lowell Lock Monsters (AHL, shared with Carolina), Las Vegas Wranglers (ECHL)
CAROLINA: Lowell Lock Monsters (AHL, shared with Calgary), Florida Everblades (ECHL)
CHICAGO: Norfolk Admirals (AHL), Greenville Grrrowl (ECHL, shared with Edmonton)
COLORADO: Hershey Bears (AHL)
COLUMBUS: Syracuse Crunch (AHL), Dayton Bombers (ECHL)
DALLAS: Houston Aeros (AHL, shared with Minnesota)
DETROIT: Grand Rapids Griffins (AHL), Toledo Storm (ECHL)
EDMONTON: Edmonton Road Runners (AHL), Greenville Grrrowl (ECHL, shared with Chicago)
FLORIDA: San Antonio Rampage (AHL), Texas Wildcatters (ECHL)
LOS ANGELES: Manchester Monarchs (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL)
MINNESOTA: Houston Aeros (AHL, shared with Dallas), Louisiana Ice Gators (ECHL)
MONTREAL: Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL), Long Beach Ice Dogs (ECHL)
NASHVILLE: Milwaukee Admirals (AHL)
NEW JERSEY: Albany River Rats (AHL)
NY ISLANDERS: Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL), Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies (ECHL)
NY RANGERS: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL), Charlotte Checkers (ECHL)
OTTAWA: Binghamton Senators (AHL)
PHILADELPHIA: Philadelphia Phantoms (AHL), Trenton Titans (ECHL)
PHOENIX: Utah Grizzlies (AHL), Idaho Steelheads (ECHL)
PITTSBURGH: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins (AHL), Wheeling Nailers (ECHL)
ST. LOUIS: Worcester Ice Cats (AHL), Peoria Rivermen (ECHL)
SAN JOSE: Cleveland Barons (AHL), Johnstown Chiefs (ECHL, shared with Tampa Bay), Fresno Falcons (ECHL)
TAMPA BAY: Springfield Falcons (AHL), Johnstown Chiefs (ECHL, shared with San Jose)
TORONTO: Saint John's Maple Leafs (AHL), Pensacola Ice Pilots (ECHL)
VANCOUVER: Manitoba Moose (AHL), Columbia Inferno (ECHL)
WASHINGTON: Portland Pirates (AHL), South Carolina Stingrays (ECHL)
INDEPENDENTS: Mississippi Sea Wolves, Augusta Lynx, Pee Dee Pride, Alaska Aces, Bakersfield Condors, Victoria Salmon Kings



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Since: 9.12.01
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Gulls games broadcasted locally in San Diego on Channel 4 San Diego, the home of the Padres, Gulls, Riptide, and SDSU Aztecs.

Check out the home of the San Diego Gulls at http://www.sandiegogulls.com/

I will probably be going to the home opener on Saturday October 23rd if anyone wants to buy me a beer.



Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
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Since: 10.12.01
From: Aurora, IL

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    ATLANTA: Chicago Wolves (AHL),


They actually outdrew the 'hawks when going head to head at least once last season, and they've got lots of games on TV. They're going to good businesss now - they would've done better if the Blackhawks hadn't killed off as many potential hockey fans over the last ten years.



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Since: 24.7.02

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.27
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    The strike through is a nice touch for this forum.








But shouldn't it be a lock symbol designating lock-out, rather than a strike symbol, since this is not a strike?



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    The strike through is a nice touch for this forum.


Agreed. It had me smiling this morning.

Anyways, as for hockey for me, there's always the OHL's Ottawa 67s and the QJMHL's Gatineau Olympiques to keep me filled.



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Since: 18.6.02
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
As for me, I've got the Central Hockey League to keep my interests.

Thank goodness there's still a hockey forum to post in.



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Since: 3.1.02
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.53
    Originally posted by IncredibleHeelHeat
    As for me, I've got the Central Hockey League to keep my interests.

    Thank goodness there's still a hockey forum to post in.


AHL, ECHL, Junior Hockey, International Leagues, College Hockey and as CRZ will soon find out, there is nothing bigger in his new home state than High School Hockey.

Go Trenton Titans !!!



Folk singers are always liberal pansies, but not me.....I sing for my fellow conservatives...care to hear "Shoot the Hippie out of the Redwood Tree" ?
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Alberta-area Ws have the WHL's Calgary Hitmen (ranked 3rd by the CHL), Lethbridge Hurricanes, Red Deer Rebels & Medicine Hat Tigers, the AJHL's Calgary Canucks & Calgary Royals, the U of C Dinos, SAIT, Mount Royal College...and the rest of the crappy AJHL teams. We'll be fine.



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Since: 9.12.01
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    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    and as CRZ will soon find out, there is nothing bigger in his new home state than High School Hockey.
Hey, if I passed on WORLD CUP hockey (in St. Paul), you can be PRETTY sure I won't be going to see HIGH SCHOOL hockey. :)



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Since: 3.1.02
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by dunkndollaz
      and as CRZ will soon find out, there is nothing bigger in his new home state than High School Hockey.
    Hey, if I passed on WORLD CUP hockey (in St. Paul), you can be PRETTY sure I won't be going to see HIGH SCHOOL hockey. :)


Then you DAMN WELL better check out the Golden Gophers. They produced Flames defenseman Jordan Leopold (who won the Hobey Baker with 'em) and Flames first round draft pick Kris Chucko is playing for them for the next four years.



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