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The W - Pro Wrestling - The Leapfrog Effect (good or bad?)
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.59
This year in the WWE (admittingly) hasn't been the most exciting year in terms of excitement and surprises; however, with Sheamus the current WWE Champion (it still takes some getting used to just saying that) and Drew McIntyre the IC Champ, has the WWE been more about leapfroging others with backstage politics?

The WWE as I said seemingly hasn't had a lot of surprises (though Sheamus winning is the biggest surprise I can remember in awhile) but now has turned into "it's not what you do, it's who you know" type deal.

Sheamus (and I have nothing against him) is actually a credible champion.....if the WWE doesn't screw this up. Drew McIntyre is the annointed one who everybody knows by now is the hand-picked person by Vinny Mac to eventually lead the company.

Nothing against these guys once again but when you think about Dolph Ziggler who was supposed to be an IC champion (and now is becoming less relevant by the day), Jack Swagger who may now never see the the light of day again when it comes to being pushed, while CM Punk (still relevant) but has dropped from main event status.

Conclusions/ After-thoughts:
I am a fan of all 3 of these guys and there are more wrestlers who have been with the company longer and yet have not even tasted mid-card success and main-stream success.

Drew definitely has the makings of future main eventer while Sheamus is more of a monster than a Celtic Warrior but can be used quite well if the WWE doesn't decided to drop the ball on these guys.

However, what I am not a fan of is that guys who have worked diligently and are passed over based on the connections that some guys have backstage.

There are plenty of wrestlers being leap-frogged from future success for others to have immediate success. I am by far not on Vince's level in terms of success but one area I think that could help the company is bringing guys like Swagger, Ziggler, MVP, and others into gradual feuds that could help elevate them (look at Swagger and Cena as they have had a couple solid matches and that alone to me speaks volume of what Swagger can do if given the chance).

I am curious on other peoples' opinions on the "leapfrog effect" of whether it is good for the long-run or just a temporary fix for instant success.

Your thoughts and opinions.....................
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.79
Everyone really needs to stop with the "(Insert Wrestler) is only getting pushed cause he's friends with HHH/picked by Vince/etc." nonsense. Vince McMahon is in one business - the making money business. The guys he's pushing are the guys he believes will make him the most money, period.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.71
I'm of the mind that Ziggler is getting repackaged with a new name. I don't think they knew what they had there when they gave him that moniker. That's my hope to explain his absence following the multiple shots at the IC title where she shined.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
I like to think that they're saving the Ziggler repackage for when he does finally win a title. Which may sound kind of silly, but hey, you can't tell me it didn't work for Johnny Nitro.

But, to address the original topic -- what else is new? Advancing up the ol' corporate ladder through fortuitous connections rather than through hard work is not exactly a new idea, in any field, and it would be kind of goofy to expect that professional wrestling is held to a higher standard than other businesses.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.61
I am with the 2nd poster who said that everyone needs to stop with the backstage politics issue. At this point, I personally don't care who is WWE/IC Champion. I like the idea that someone not named Cena, HHH or Orton is champion and there is a new face to go with the belt. I do hope that some deserving talents (MVP, Swagger, Shelton, Christian, CM Punk, Matt Hardy) can finally get into the main event scene in 2010 and really add something different to the mix.

This is part of the reason why I do hope that the Hogan/TNA partnership goes well. Realistically, it will tank but as a fan, I hope it lights a fire under someones ass...



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Swagger....From what Jim Ross has cited in blog posts, Swagger has a bit of an attitude/intensity problem. All the talent in the world, but maybe he needs a couple more months of 'cooling off' to get his head straight.

MVP....I'm not sure he really has 'it' to be a main eventer, though I'm fine with him as a mid-to-upper card guy. I still say it was a crime that WWE didn't go full-out with making him into a wrestling version of Terrell Owens or Ocho Cinco. That would've been a money heel gimmick, especially if partnered with a sleazy 'agent' as his manager making absurd demands.

Punk....WWE was high on this guy from the get-go. I mean, he was pretty well-protected on ECW and got a solid push, won the ECW title, won the MITB and cashed it in for the world championship within two years of joining the company. That's a pretty good push to me. And since then, he's become the top heel in the company after Jericho and is only gaining steam now that his 'straight edge messiah' character is being sharpened.

Ziggler....well, that stupid name was a bit of a setback. Maybe his losing streak was intentional, so they can start a 'Dolph was lost without Maria' angle now that she's back.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by Big Bad

    Punk....WWE was high on this guy from the get-go. I mean, he was pretty well-protected on ECW and got a solid push, won the ECW title, won the MITB and cashed it in for the world championship within two years of joining the company. That's a pretty good push to me. And since then, he's become the top heel in the company after Jericho and is only gaining steam now that his 'straight edge messiah' character is being sharpened.


He's not the top heel after Jericho. He's certainly behind Batista on the depth chart right now, if not others...and that's defining "the company" as Smackdown, because he's certainly behind Orton.

Yes, they pushed him within ECW, and then he won MITB and became champ. What's stalled him, though, was the way they handled him as champ. Basically, in each of his championship runs he was booked to look like a paper champion who had gotten lucky to win. He didn't seem to win any significant matches as champ and IIRC lost several non-title matches while holding the belt.

If they had just given him a couple of successful feuds with the strap before he lost it to Undertaker, it would have gone a long way towards establishing Punk as one of the big guys. And of course actually putting him over Taker would have been used, although I can understand why they would not have done that. Since he lost the belt, he's been marginalized.

Compare his push to Orton's, and I think it comes up lacking. Which is a shame, because I think Punk is much better in the ring, much much better on the stick, and more over, at least based on where they were when their pushes were similar. I think they had the chance to make Punk a big star, and didn't take it.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.59
they had just given him a couple of successful feuds with the strap before he lost it to Undertaker, it would have gone a long way towards establishing Punk as one of the big guys. And of course actually putting him over Taker would have been used, although I can understand why they would not have done that. Since he lost the belt, he's been marginalized.

Compare his push to Orton's, and I think it comes up lacking. Which is a shame, because I think Punk is much better in the ring, much much better on the stick, and more over, at least based on where they were when their pushes were similar. I think they had the chance to make Punk a big star, and didn't take it.


I honestly could not agree much more than this nor could I have had it said any better.

I have like Punk from the get-go because he has an unique offense and persona but since he turned heel, Punk has recieved a bigger crowd reaction, his mic skills flowed very well and his feud with Jeff Hardy was the best feud of 2009 (and I thought there was no way to follow 2008's feud with HBK and Jericho).

If the WWE utilized Punk properly, he could have been a main-stay as a main-eventer. He won the belt after cashing the MITB on Jeff Hardy and shortly lost it to Undertaker in a match that had no feud or story leading up to it. For any wrestler to keep momentum, they need a feud or storyline leading up to their match unless a pair of wrestlers have already had history (aka John Cena vs. Randy Orton, and some others as well).
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