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Since: 21.11.02
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Is anyone out there watching this show? I am totally hooked on it and can not wait for the finale next week. This show has that great slow burn going for it and sucked me in from week 1. If you are not watching it, go to Amaxon.com under digital downloads and check it out (or On Demand). It is well worth it. The acting and writing are phenomenal.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
I remember when they posted the first four or five episodes online. It was like 10 or 11 at night and I thought, "well, I'll watch the first episode online and catch up with the rest later if I like it." I ended up staying up 'til 3 or 4 am to watch all of them. I'm loving it and actually read it was recently renewed for a second season. I guess some people are complaining that it's dragging, and compared to the first few episodes, I can see that. But I have no real complaints about it.
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Episode 11 dragged but I was expecting it since the needed to get to 13 and they used hte excuse of a search warrant and 48 hours to get one. So that was a filler. Episode 12 was solid but I was not expecting fireworks sinc eit is the last show before the finale. Every other ones has been great. And as for the dragging, i think people are used to CSI and L&O where everything is tied up in 50 minutes. I am thoroughly enjoying the dialogue and guessing (wrong) the final outcome. Next Sunday can not come fast enough.

I am curious about season 2. New cast? New case?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
    Originally posted by Wpob


    I am curious about season 2. New cast? New case?


I would guess it would have to be both, which would be kinda strange. Unless Linden just decided to stay in Seattle and they already hired Holder so they kept him.

Boy, the AV Club (and those that commented on the article) DOES NOT like this show:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/beau-soleil,57427/
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Since: 21.11.02
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#5 Posted on
I think they miss the point. It did show the police work has been less than stellar - that is what makes it real. They chased the first lead (the teacher) and completely dropped everything else. They were so sure it was the teacher it did not dawn on them to look at other leads. They have handled this poorly - but they are still working it and trying to solve the case. I mean, every TV show has holes - do they bitch that Dr. House can only solve a case because of a chat with Wilson or Cuddy and that triggers something he overlooked earlier? I think they are being a little too hard. Why would the cops care about a teacher in coma when he is no longer a suspect? Why would they go after the father more when he is in jail? Leads die and then are forgotten because they are no longer necessary. To me, this is more real than L&O who solve crimes in 48 hours.

Alas, to each their own. I enjoy it. Other don't.



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Since: 9.1.02
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.07
The search warrant episode was polarizing. I loved it, but if Holder and Linden don't come back next season, then it will have been a huge waste of time. The time they spent looking at Belko as a suspect WAS a waste of time.

The Holder/Linden and Mitch/Stan relationships are the backbone of this show, and both are extremely well-written. It's so painful to watch Mitch and Stan fighting with each other.

They probably did spend too much time on Bennet as a suspect (which ended with the painfully, eye-rollingly dumb t-shirt misdirection), but creatively, the whole point of it was to drive a wedge between Mitch and Stan.

I'm extremely curious to see how they reconcile last week's cliffhanger with what we have seen during the rest of the season. They're walking a fine line between clever and dumb here. Let's see what side they fall on.





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Since: 8.5.03
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
    Originally posted by Wpob
    Is anyone out there watching this show?


Yes. (The W)

I'm still digging the show, but I wish we could see how Bennett's wife is doing. That subplot is a victim of narrowing the focus on the investigation.

The Lovely Mrs. Tracker suspects some misdirection on last Sunday's cliffhanger. She thinks the new suspect is involved in bad things, but not the murder.

The casino angle and the new revelations about Rosie create another parallel to Twin Peaks, which both delights and frustrates me.

The actor playing Holder is dead perfect.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.83
I tried watching one episode with the son that runs away and after about half an hour of the female cop being a bitch, the male cop's terrible ghetto accent and the fact that they just stole shit from Twin Peaks was enough for me. I understand its one of those shows you have to get into, but I'd rather not since I am pretty sure I would want everyone to be brutally murdered at the end.



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Since: 21.1.02
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Wpob
    And as for the dragging, i think people are used to CSI and L&O where everything is tied up in 50 minutes


I disagree with that, because The Killing basically worked the 60 minute cop drama formula, just in reverse. Every week it was "solve last week's clue beyond any doubt/crying as character development/rain/dramatically reveal new clue". Whether that's more realistic or not, the way they handled it quickly made things stagnant. Then right when it seemed like the show was finally having forward plot momentum, it basically hit a reset button. A 13 episode season, and at the end of episode 9 we were still where we were at the end of episode 1, with the election storyline being so clearly disconnected from everything else that it was clearly going to end up involving the killer. Thankfully, that reset actually has led to some of the characters taking steps towards depth (the Holder/Linden look for her son episode was excellent), but I'm well past the point of caring anymore- I pretty much only have kept watching for completions sake.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
    Originally posted by CxMorgado
    A 13 episode season, and at the end of episode 9 we were still where we were at the end of episode 1, with the election storyline being so clearly disconnected from everything else that it was clearly going to end up involving the killer.


Rosie was found in a campaign car, a detail they left out of the last episode to build toward the last few minutes.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by CxMorgado
      A 13 episode season, and at the end of episode 9 we were still where we were at the end of episode 1, with the election storyline being so clearly disconnected from everything else that it was clearly going to end up involving the killer.


    Rosie was found in a campaign car, a detail they left out of the last episode to build toward the last few minutes.


Yeah, they didn't remind us of the car in that episode, but it's something we've known since very early on. We're clearly supposed to have disregarded it as a red herring. Only thing is, even though they found multiple ways to account for it and keep suspicion off of the campaign, they still kept that subplot going while tossing aside the subplots surrounding other red herrings like Bennett and the sex dungeon. Their attempt at misdirection actually ended up making it clear that the campaign story would tie back in to the murder, because it was the only recurring subplot that wasn't playing directly off of Rosie's death every week.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
I was getting mighty worried about this show with five minutes left, and then it kicked into second-season subplots.

I had some issues with writing snags (Bennett's wife really doesn't know who tried to kill her husband?), but the biggest apparent writing failure turned out to be a last-second plot point.

I am intrigued.





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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
For a show that spent so much time seemingly borrowing from Twin Peaks, you'd think they would have, you know... LEARNED FROM TWIN PEAKS.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
I'm hoping the finale answered the question of whether or not this case/cast would be back or whether or not it would be an all new set of circumstances.
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Since: 21.11.02
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#15 Posted on
Well, I think the show landed with a THUD and this from some one who LOVED episodes 1-10. 11 was a filler, 12 was decent, but I was expecting a payoff from 13 and outside of that last 5 minutes, I was wanting and expecting more. I am guessing season II pick up with the end and the case continues.





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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.73
This show had all the promise in the world and then pulled down its pants and took a dump and out came The Killing.

The show clearly wants us to think Linden is some kind of brilliant, tortured investigator who sacrifices her relationships with her son and her fiancee in her undying quest for justice. Except it then takes a shotgun to its own premise by making Linden rather bad at police work.

Feel free to look up the places that have recapped all the hilarious ways in which she bumbles along through the case, as it's entertaining to re-live. But the end result of it is that she basically sucks at everything. Horrible mom. Terrible girlfriend. Awful detective. What a great character to base a show around!

All the early reviews were like, YES, this is a female character the likes of which we've never even seen! It's about time! But before long, Linden grows tiresome and gets left on the side of the road while the breakout star becomes her pale, skinny, meth-head, street-wise, ghetto-talkin' partner. But then, oops, he's a bad guy now, I guess. SWERVE.

Like everyone, I was hooked on the first few episodes. But by the middle I couldn't shake how bad the cops were at doing their jobs and the absurdity of the show relying on the most ridiculous coincidences possible. (Why yes, two young girls involved in the case did happen to have the exact same pink t-shirt from the Grand Canyon.)

By the latter stages, I just kept watching for perverse amusement. The show tries so hard to be GRITTY and REAL with its constant greyness and rain and no make-up. Yet the story itself is absurd in numerous ways. I cannot recall seeing such an odd combination before.

The shame of it is that the actors in it are genuinely good. The scene with the dad meeting Ahmed's wife when she asks him how many kids he has, and the look on his face as he realizes it's now just two, but he still says three. That guy can act.

Yet it will be overshadowed because that was one of the dumbest scenes ever seen in history by the human eye.
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#17 Posted on
Bill Simmons weighs in, and you guessed it, he hated it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/grantland/story/_/id/6680958/hackery-first-degree




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
I think Linden has been screwed over from the first episode. Her boss sandbagged her with a case after celebrating her departure, and he has dogged her on every turn. She's ensnared by the investigation, and it will not let her go. It's poisoned all her relationships. It's poisoned every one's. I enjoy watching the damage ripple outward. I think that's the real story of the show, not just the murder mystery.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
I was really only disappointed because I thought the season would be one complete story that wrapped up in the finale, but instead we get a Dallas like cliffhanger.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.15
Wow, I thought the outrage over the second-to-last episode of Game of Thrones was bad. That pales in comparison to the outrage over this show. Everyone (fans and critics alike) is reacting as if this show is a true crime against humanity, punishable only by the execution of Veena Sud. I can't stop laughing at these people.

One of things I thought was a huge waste of time earlier in the season was the time they spent on Belko's personal life. I take that back. It informed quite nicely his behavior during the finale.

It seems like there are two ways to play the big twist.

The first:

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The ultimate goal of Holder and his partner was to frame Richmond specifically. Targeting Richmond this way makes absolutely no sense, considering Holder's actions throughout the whole season.


The second:

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The ultimate goal of Holder and his partner was to frame *someone*, and Richmond ended up being the best and easiest choice, given the cirumstances.


Or I guess it's possible

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Holder's not a bad guy. SWERVE!








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