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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      LOVE the Fark headline: Religious zealot set to take down Jets in New York City


    Do you? To me, and even as a joke, they are essentially equating Tim Tebow to terrorists that killed thousands of people in New York.


It is a play on multiple words, celebrating language.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.84
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    I will never ever root so hard for Mark Sanchez to be successful as I will this coming year. Tebowmania was bad enough coming out of Denver, I can only imagine how much more ridiculous it'll be coming out of New York.

    I also have a funny feeling my remote is going to have a hard time finding ESPN for a long while.


Honestly, I never got this feeling.

It's not Tim Tebow that was perpetuating any of the hype - it was the media. Why is it his fault that the media clings to cop-out journalism like this?

I don't recall him ever pushing his religion in anyones face or acting like anything but a guy who wants to play football. Honestly, if the NFL had a bit more players like Tebow, it'd be a better place.

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Honestly, if the NFL had a bit more players like Tebow, it'd be a better place.


Yeah, that's what the NFL needs: more overrated shitty passers.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
      Originally posted by Packman V2
      I will never ever root so hard for Mark Sanchez to be successful as I will this coming year. Tebowmania was bad enough coming out of Denver, I can only imagine how much more ridiculous it'll be coming out of New York.

      I also have a funny feeling my remote is going to have a hard time finding ESPN for a long while.


    Honestly, I never got this feeling.

    It's not Tim Tebow that was perpetuating any of the hype - it was the media. Why is it his fault that the media clings to cop-out journalism like this?

    I don't recall him ever pushing his religion in anyones face or acting like anything but a guy who wants to play football. Honestly, if the NFL had a bit more players like Tebow, it'd be a better place.




I wasn't necessarily directing it at Tebow, because the media is the one that drove most of the Tebowmania craze. However, if Sanchez is successful this year, it will prevent the same chain of events that happened in Denver last season with the billboards and media circus that surrounds it. It was bad in Denver, it can only be much much worse in a market like New York.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco

    Roger Goodell should suspend the Jags


He should've suspended them if they DID acquire him. They'd be acquiring him as a third QB (since they already have Gabbert and Henne), special teamer and gimmick player, and lord knows the Tebow fans in South Florida would be all over Gabbert the first time the kid screws up. As much as he sucked last year, most fans aren't ready to give up on him so quickly. Not to mention this likely would've fractured the relationship between GM and owner and, rightfully or not, Shad Khan would've been seen as a meddling owner for getting GM Gene Smith, who is not a fan of Tebow, to trade for him.

And the national media believes they should've acquired Tebow FOR THE FANS, strangely, most Jaguars fans DIDN'T want Tebow, and this whole mystical idea of somehow the Jaguars would gain all these fans by Tebow coming aboard and him saving the franchise...despite the fact they haven't had a blackout in two years. Acquiring Tebow would not have been a football move, it would've been a PR move. As a fan, I want them to win; I don't care how much national media attention they get.


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
Was there a big poll on this somewhere?
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Was there a big poll on this somewhere?

Do you mean as far as if Jaguars fans wanted Tebow or not?



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
They were saying last night (they being Mortonson and Schefter) that when the time came for the trade, Elway asked Tebow where he'd rather go, and let him pick. He picked New York over Jacksonville.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
I think Tebow denied that in his presser, but given the reported package Jax offered, not sure why the Broncos would've passed it up. So who knows.

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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2012/03/quarterback-drew-stanton-prefers-to-be-released-after-jets-trade-for-tim-tebow

Drew Stanton wants no part of the Tebow Circus.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.82
Good for Drew Stanton. I wanted no part of him either.

I have seen an insane amount of on-line coverage that bashes this move. In a nutshell: this will destroy Sanchez's already brittle confidence, Rex Ryan is still a fat, foot loving idiot who just likes to make PR moves and never makes the team better, Joe Namath doesn't like the move so it must be terrible, Tebow will be negative in the locker room because a lot of players questioned the trade as it was happening, Tebow won't produce in the offense, and Tebow is the shittiest quarterback to ever play the game.

Sanchez had no confidence from about week 3 last year. I watched him engineer many three-and-out drives through an amazing variety of under-thrown, overthrown, and wounded-duck passes. After every one, he would unstrap his helmet, look up to the sky and then walk away defeated. No fire, no character, no confidence. He lost his receivers confidence all on his own. Either Tebow pushes him to his potential instead of letting him be coddled all the time fully knowing the Jets could never realistically put in the Brunell Corpse, or he steps aside.

Rex is still a fat, foot loving loudmouth. Tebow has no effect on that. But this is more than a PR move. To think that a 4th and 6th round pick will help the team more than Tim Tebow is insane. And that's what this boils down to. Tebow is one hell of a football player. A shit quarterback, to be sure, but I will get to that later. Rex signed off on a trade that improved the team. All they had to give up were two late-round picks. Sounds like a deal I do every day.

Joe Namath is an idiot. I like the trade more because he doesn't like it. If Joe knew shit about running a team, he would be doing it now.

Cromartie seems to be the most anti-Tebow Jet on Twitter. Also an idiot. He can't remember all of his own children's names and he's trying to be a voice of reason? Shut up and play defense. That will help the Jets win games as opposed to whatever the fuck it was you did last season.

Tebow will produce in the offense. Just a hunch, will be the starter by week 6.

Everyone knows that Tebow is a terrible quarterback by the textbook definition of the position. He can't read a zone, his throws for short yardage are laughably inaccurate, he doesn't throw a tight spiral, and his throwing motion is awful. But how about this; he is one of the hardest working people in all of sports. He constantly pushes himself to learn, improve, and adapt. He is willing to listen and willing to learn. He is the ultimate character individual, someone who even the NY tabloid media will not be able to rattle. He leads by example. And he wins more than he loses. I am not completely in love with him (only about 3/4 in love), but he's far from the shitty player some people make him out to be. I'm of the thinking that Tebow's quarterbacking can be improved. Will he ever turn into Peyton Manning? Of course not. Will he wind up better than Mark Sanchez? Absolutely.

People are saying that this is a terrible trade. As if the alternative of another season full of mind-fuckingly-stupid decisions by Sanchez and Schotty is the Golden Era of Jets football. This move is good because it will accomplish one of two things. It will either push Mark Sanchez to be the talented, successful leader and quarterback that he is (supposedly) capable of being or it will allow Tebow to develop in a run first offense that only cares about clock management and the occasional home-run pass. Either way, I love the move and can't wait to see it all unfold.

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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.52
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    Tebow will be the starting quarterback by game ten of this upcoming season for the Jets.


    Originally posted by Stefonics
    Tebow will produce in the offense. Just a hunch, will be the starter by week 6.


I have no earthly idea if either of these will come true. But knowing that the speculation abounds has me positively giddy in anticipation of the fireworks that will take place if Sanchez stumbles out of the gate next year. Giddy.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    They were saying last night (they being Mortonson and Schefter) that when the time came for the trade, Elway asked Tebow where he'd rather go, and let him pick. He picked New York over Jacksonville.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-03-22/tim-tebow-john-elway-broncos-jets-trade?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid=145889

Tim Tebow says he had no say in being traded to the New York Jets.

John Elway says that's not true and Tebow, in fact, chose the Jets over his hometown Jacksonville Jaguars.

The dramatic deal that sent shock waves throughout the NFL — twice after an eight-hour snag — on Thursday got a little more awkward for all parties.

When asked by ESPN Radio 102.3 in Denver, "Did you give (Tebow) a choice?" Elway responded:

"We did. There was more (offered) from Jacksonville, but we looked at it and it was close enough and we were in contact with Tim throughout the day and talked to him. He knew what was going on the whole time, so the reports that he was not involved are not accurate."

During hastily assembled conference late Wednesday night, Tebow said, contrary to some reports, he didn't have final say in where he was going.

"Ultimately, I really didn't have any because the Broncos had all that power," Tebow said, adding that Denver was "gracious" in the way it handled the process. "I was just kind of watching and waiting — kind of like everybody else. It was an interesting day."

The Jets and Broncos completed the trade after both sides agreed to split roughly $5 million in salary advances owed Tebow. The Jets also sends fourth- and sixth-round picks in next month's draft and receives Denver's seventh-round pick.

The Jaguars reportedly made a similar, slightly more attractive offer for Tebow, who played at nearby Nease High School in Ponte Vedra, Fla.








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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
The NFL is a business. If Jacksonville really was offering a better deal, Elway looks like a moron for not pulling the trigger; ergo if Jacksonville really was offering a better deal the Broncos would've taken it. Tebow may have been asked where he'd rather play or where he'd rather land, but I don't think the guy a liar either.

As for the new player my team acquired this offseason, I'll start talking and considering in mid-october, when we'll all see the result of what has happened.

As far as the PR moves my team has made, at least they're as must see in many people's eyes as the current Super Bowl champions, the very same team that shares a stadium with them.

Go Jets.

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