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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
Unfortunately, I have no crazy wrestling dreams to talk about this week. Unless you count the one with Hiroko in a schoolgirl outfit, but that's a dream better left untold...

It's time for The Great Thomas SmackDown! Report!

LAST WEEK: YOU'RE FIIIAAAAHHRRREEEED!

Booker T: Last week, Booker was made a promise that he would be declared the new US Champion. But since GM Angle was fired, Booker demands whoever's in charge to declare him the new US Champion. Out come Kenzo Suzuki. Kenzo declares his claim to the US Championship. Also, Booker's breath apparently smells like rotting wildebeests. Rob Van Dam, Luther Reigns, René Duprée, Charlie Haas, Billy Gunn, and John Cena are all out to make the claim for the US Title. Cena rushes the ring, and it devolves into a Pier 6 Brawl. Mr. McMahon runs in to break up the fighting. He announces the new General Manager... THEODORE LONG! As soon as Theodore grabs the mic, Booker T tries to plead his case for being the US Champion. But Theodore accuses Booker T of hating on SmackDown ever since he got here, and he won't be given anything. GM Theodore makes a match for tonight: an 8-Man Elimination Match for the US Title!

Mysterio vs. Spike: Handshake. Some flipping, then a standoff. QUEBRADOR CON HILO by Mysterio! MANHATTAN DROP by Spike! HEADSCISSORS! SUNSET FLIP is foiled! SPRINGBOARD MOONSAULT by Mysterio misses! BULLDOG by Spike! BUT WAIT! Bubba and D-Von foil the 6-1-9, allowing Spike to hit the DUDLEY DOG! 1.. 2.. 3! OMG NEW CHAMP! Spike sees his brothers, and gets angry.

RAW Rebound: Eugene helps Benoit win the 60-Minute Ironman match. Triple H is visibly pissed, but sadly, his drooling is edited out.

LAST WEEK: Undertaker challenged JBL for the title.

Backstage: Mr. Long walks into his new office, but finds former GM Kurt Angle sitting in the dark. Kurt says he's not envious of Theodore being the new GM, since Kurt would have chosen him as his successor eventually. Theodore decides to put Kurt in a match tonight, but Kurt didn't bring his wrestling gear! So, Theodore decides to fine Kurt some "dolla-dolla bills", and says that Kurt WILL wrestle next week!

Heidenreich: "Oh, come on, you know his name by now."

London/Kidman vs. The Dudleys: Earlier tonight, Kidman told London that now that they're the new champions, they have to earn the respect of the fans now. Bubba has Kidman in an armwrench, and yells "I'll break your arm, Billy!" a million times. HEADSCISSORS by Kidman! Bubba and D-Von throw London and Kidman out of the ring, and the crowd responds with HUGE CHEERS! Let's go to commercial break!

London/Kidman vs. The Dudleys (cont.): SUNSET FLIP by Kidman! ENZIGURI! DROPSAULT by London! The Dudleys go for the WHASSUP, but it's foiled! DOUBLE SUPERPLEX to D-Von! HUGE CLOTHESLINE by D-Von! FLYING CROSSBODY to by Kidman to Bubba on the outside! Bubba grabs a steel chair to whack Kidman. BUT WAIT! Rey Mysterio runs in and kicks the steel chair into Bubba's face! This distracts D-Von, allowing London to roll him up into a small package for the win!

Democratic National Convention: Ivory interviews Mick Foley. Foley is trying to encourage young people to vote. No menton of Flair is made (thankfully).

Eddie Guerrero: Eddie drives out with something under a tarp in the backseat. Eddie calls out Kurt. Kurt ain't coming out. So Eddie's got a little enticement. He unpacks the stuff from the lowrider... it's Kurt's stuff from his GM Room! Eddie's gonna put it up for auction on WWE.com! You can bid on his Championship Belt, or his cast, or his wheelchair, or his framed picture! But Eddie decides to auction Kurt's medals live! But Kurt's out to put a stop to that! Kurt tries to drive off with Eddie's lowrider, but Eddie warns Kurt that there's an anti-theft device in his car. Kurt turns on the ignition, and gets blasted with FUEGO BLANCO for it! Kurt blindly staggers off, while Eddie poses with Kurt's medals.

JBL: A Historical Perspective: A short biography of JBL's life. I know I'M proud of him!

Summerslam: Batista BREAKDANCES! Who knew Devastating Dave had it in him?!

RVD vs. Cena vs. Haas vs. Duprée vs. Gunn vs. Suzuki vs. Reigns vs. Booker T: RVD and Haas start it off. Duprée tags in. DROPKICK by Haas! Gunn tags in and hits the FAMEASSER on Haas! 1.. 2.. 3! Duprée begs off Gunn and... let's go to commercial break!

RVD vs. Cena vs. Haas vs. Duprée vs. Gunn vs. Suzuki vs. Reigns vs. Booker T (cont.): FLAPJACK by Duprée! FRENCH TICKLER! Reigns tags in and hits the SHUTIME on Duprée! 1.. 2.. 3! Cena's up to bat next. DOUBLE-ARM SUPLEX by Reigns! Hiroko tries to throw salt in Kenzo's eyes, but Cena catches her and... KISSES HER! GET YOUR HANDS OFF HER, YOU FILTHY MASHER! Kenzo attacks Cena from behind, and the referee disqualifies him! That's twice in a row, innit? Let's go to commercial break!

UPN News: Interview with Ric Flair.

RVD vs. Cena vs. Haas vs. Duprée vs. Gunn vs. Suzuki vs. Reigns vs. Booker T (cont.): It's Cena vs. Gunn now. Sleeper Hold by Gunn. Cena counters with a BACK DROP! FIVE-KNUCKLE SHUFFLE! Billy Gunn hits the ONE AND ONLY! But Cena hits the F-U! 1.. 2.. 3! Luther Reigns runs in and beats down Cena. But Cena hits the F-U on Reigns! 1.. 2.. 3! Damn, you people suck. Booker runs in and hits the BOOK END! RVD is now in, and hits a NORTHERN LIGHTS SUPLEX on Cena! SPLIT-LEGGED MOONSAULT to Cena! FIVE-STAR FROGSPLASH! BUT WAIT! Booker T runs in and pins Cena 1.. 2.. 3! SCISSORS KICK to RVD! PIN! 1.. 2.. 3! Booker T is now officially your new United States Champion! And... we're out!

That's all for this week. Until then, Good Night, take care of yourselves, and this has been the easiest report I've written yet! Thank you, 3-match SmackDown!



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
I would just like to say that Breakin' Dave Batista was one of the greatest WWF/E commercials ever. EVER.

He should've done The Robot also.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
    Originally posted by The Great Thomas
    Unfortunately, I have no crazy wrestling dreams to talk about this week. Unless you count the one with Hiroko in a schoolgirl outfit, but that's a dream better left untold...


Actually, I'd like to hear about that more than the actual Smackdown! broadcast. Please tell us a story, The Great Thomas. (as all the not-so-little "children" huddle around the rockingchair, a fire blazing on the hearth) And include all the juicy details.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.55
This was actually the first time I tuned into Smackdown! in quite some time. I think the last time I watched the show was for a couple of them after Wrestlemania XX, then I just stopped watching it completely and just read the spoilers or the show reports.

The show tonight wasn't that bad. Only 3 matches but they were pretty good. I was happy to see someone new win the cruiserweight title, even though WWE still seems reluctant to elevate it to the levels it was in WCW. But it was a good little match between Mysterio and Spike. Good tag team title match with London/Kidman against the Dudleyz. I'm glad to see they've finally found something for Kidman to do, because he is a great performer, and I'm happy to see him holding another title in the WWE. Though I think something could be done with Kidman/London to make them a tad more exciting b/c as characters they are kind of vanilla and boring, whatever, match was good though. One should notice though, the tag team scene on Raw AND Smackdown is almost non-existent.

Main event was pretty good, and interesting to see that a good deal of it was carried by Cena, getting beat down by almost every other participant. A big elimination match for a vacant title is a nice change of pace instead of the formulaic battle royal WWE always seems to do these days. Anyone notice how Kenzo Suzuki did nothing in the match at all? Something tells me that WWE is not too happy with his in-ring performance. I wish Charlie Haas lasted a little longer, since he's pretty solid in the ring and could definitely be a good singles competitor with the right gimmick. I mean he's impressed me a lot more in the ring than Randy Orton at the very least. Anyway, good to see Booker T finally win another singles title in the WWE after his incredibly short reign as IC champion. Now we have a heel US champion on Smackdown! and a bunch of viable contenders for the title. I think that's pretty good.

I think the main problem with Smackdown! there aren't really many meaningful feuds or programs for the midcard wrestlers...and the main event feuds other than Eddy/Kurt pretty much suck as well. I mean really, for a joint brand PPV, Undertaker vs. JBL for the WWE title is pretty fucking weak for the second biggest PPV of the year.

Well, next week we have Spike and Mysterio vs. The Dudleyz and Kurt Angle returns to the ring after a 5 month absence. So I might check it out if Kurt has a good opponent/match.




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
I'm about 60-65% convinced that Spike Dudley is going to turn heel on Rey and we get the big rematch at Summerslam. The tag match made for next week (Spike and Rey vs. Bubba Ray and D-Von) is the usally forumla to do one of these shocking heel turns.

At least (I don't think) we won't get Bubba Ray and D-Von beating Spike up for the millionth time.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I'm about 60-65% convinced that Spike Dudley is going to turn heel on Rey and we get the big rematch at Summerslam. The tag match made for next week (Spike and Rey vs. Bubba Ray and D-Von) is the usally forumla to do one of these shocking heel turns.

    At least (I don't think) we won't get Bubba Ray and D-Von beating Spike up for the millionth time.


That could be pretty OK if they have Spike be the little dickish asshole Cruiser Champ (like Syxx back in the nWo days) who gets away with stuff and wins matches just because his brothers always are messing up his opponents.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
The only problem is, I don't think I've ever seen a more sympathetic character than Spike Dudley. I think the crowd would have a hard time accepting him as a heel.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    The only problem is, I don't think I've ever seen a more sympathetic character than Spike Dudley. I think the crowd would have a hard time accepting him as a heel.


I could see it. If he lets the title go to his head, and then just turns into this snot-nosed dick who has no problem picking fights with you because he knows his big brothers will take care of business if things get out of hand.

Highlight of the show for me: Cena telling the guys to wipe their feet when they're in his house, then we see Billy Gunn wiping his feet.

Does RVD get on the SS card? This is the second time that Booker stole a pin on Cena after RVD was the one who put Cena down. Triple Threat?

You know what might be cool? If RVD isn't in the US Title match, I'd love to see some sort of "mix-and-match" interpromotional match, like RVD, Tajiri and Rhyno versus the re-united La Resistance trio.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I'm about 60-65% convinced that Spike Dudley is going to turn heel on Rey and we get the big rematch at Summerslam. The tag match made for next week (Spike and Rey vs. Bubba Ray and D-Von) is the usally forumla to do one of these shocking heel turns.

    At least (I don't think) we won't get Bubba Ray and D-Von beating Spike up for the millionth time.


I see that one coming too, except I think we'll see all 3 Dudleys vs. Kidman, London & Rey at 'Slam.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.73
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Does RVD get on the SS card? This is the second time that Booker stole a pin on Cena after RVD was the one who put Cena down. Triple Threat?


Would make sense. However, I believe the latest plans were for Cena to show up with a bogus belt claiming he was the real champion, a la Shawn Michaels 1994. This would lead to Cena v. Booker, one-on-one.

Plus, I've heard that they are planning to have Jericho v. Edge v. Batista at SummerSlam, and I doubt they'd do two triple-threat matches on the same card.

So, to answer your question: No, RVD will probably not get on the card. And as the resident Van Dam mark (sad as that may sound), that makes me one unhappy camper!



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.11
I'm not RVD's biggest fan, but he still seems pretty over with the crowds. I'm surprised that he hasn't gotten a bigger push since coming to SD! Part of the problem is that his gimmick really only works as a face. Who knows? If he had a better heel persona he might be champ.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.31
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    The only problem is, I don't think I've ever seen a more sympathetic character than Spike Dudley. I think the crowd would have a hard time accepting him as a heel.


They'd need to give him a minor make over but it could be done. Something really needs to be done with the hair to stop him looking like anything other than geeky underdog, but if they sort that out and have him become more and more cocky thanks to the help of his brothers I could buy into it.

Putting him against a face as popular as Rey would also help any turn no end.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
I'm probably in the minority but I'm finding the Eddie Guerrero character not funny anymore. I don't really know why, I used to like it but last couple of months I'm just not finding him funny or "cute" anymore. This week I was really thinking "Can someone get the hook". The "anti-theft device" on his car was funny, but that was the only thing that got a smirk out of me... The was one long main event. But it worked well, I like the elimination style match. That's actually a pretty new concept I do believe with the WWE.

I'm glad Spike is getting a push, I always thought he was one of the most under-used/underrated guys on the roster. He plays such a great underdog, I just like seeing him on my screen. I'm intrigued on what will happen with him and his brothers... What's the deal with Heidenreich & Heyman, nope that's not a rhetorical question , what is the deal with it?



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I'm probably in the minority but I'm finding the Eddie Guerrero character not funny anymore. I don't really know why, I used to like it but last couple of months I'm just not finding him funny or "cute" anymore. This week I was really thinking "Can someone get the hook". The "anti-theft device" on his car was funny, but that was the only thing that got a smirk out of me

I cringed at that promo too. I've been finding Eddie stale (even in-ring) for weeks now. It seems to me that the only time he can really bring it in promos is when he's shooting somewhat or has special motivation, i.e. the rehab promos in February, or last year when he returned to El Paso. In the ring, his matches seem to be the same unless he NEEDS to rise to the occassion. Could the Eddie/IWC love affair be ending?



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40
    Originally posted by leggo
    In the ring, his matches seem to be the same unless he NEEDS to rise to the occassion. Could the Eddie/IWC love affair be ending?


Probably not since I don't think very many people share the sentiment. Eddie is still an awesome worker and while that promo sucked it's not like he can't cut promos, and it's also not like he was given great material to work with there. "Hey go out and say stuff about Kurt Angle! We'll just leave you hanging there to discuss, at length, what you might do with all of the items from Kurt Angle's office."

The whole JBL feud was great and he "rose to the occasion" three times in a row, and against a MUCH worse worker than Benoit has to deal with on Raw (only comparing them because they're so, well, comparable in their positions). After one it was like, hey a miracle, but without blood...? Then the other ones didn't have disgusting gushers and remained good.

As for all his matches being the same, all of everyone's matches are pretty much the same. Meltzer calls it in-ring polish.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.24
Probably not since I don't think very many people share the sentiment.

I know that, it was a joke silly!!

Eddie is still an awesome worker and while that promo sucked it's not like he can't cut promos, and it's also not like he was given great material to work with there. "Hey go out and say stuff about Kurt Angle! We'll just leave you hanging there to discuss, at length, what you might do with all of the items from Kurt Angle's office."

The whole JBL feud was great and he "rose to the occasion" three times in a row, and against a MUCH worse worker than Benoit has to deal with on Raw (only comparing them because they're so, well, comparable in their positions). After one it was like, hey a miracle, but without blood...? Then the other ones didn't have disgusting gushers and remained good.


Agreed, that's what I meant by needing to rise to the occassion.

As for all his matches being the same, all of everyone's matches are pretty much the same. Meltzer calls it in-ring polish.

True, but why do Eddie Guerrero matches feel less polished than, say, Triple H? Benoit? Jericho?



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
    Originally posted by leggo
    I know that, it was a joke silly!!


Fool me once, bro!


    True, but why do Eddie Guerrero matches feel less polished than, say, Triple H? Benoit? Jericho?


I dunno, I think he's better than all of them. I was mostly just digging at Meltzer a little bit. Ah I still love you, Dave. Eddie's also been working with Bradshaw. Guerrero's matches with JBL went against the grain a little more than your average WWE match does, which is why I enjoyed them so much. Judgment Day was a fight and a bloodbath and the bullrope and cage matches were filled with an actual sense that these dudes just didn't like each other and wanted to hurt the other guy real bad. HHH/Benoit, on the other hand, was about wrestling and the "two best in this business by God" trying to outdo the other. In theory, HHH/Benoit was a super kickass feud focused on two wrestlers going all out. What we ended up with was two really great matches (Vengeance and the iron man) sports entertainmented up at the end of both by the wrestling retard and HHH's friends. A little silly, and poorly played by HHH if his quest was to have a definable Flair/Steamboat-type series with Benoit.

Eddie/JBL on the other hand had to be different to be successful. They couldn't go out there and do WWE Main Event Style like HHH and Benoit and Michaels were doing, they had to go out and fight to cover Bradshaw's weaknesses. Eddie hasn't really had a chance to have a strong wrestling match in a couple months now since all his work has been with JBL. It's not a knock on JBL because I thought he did his part in the matches, which is more credit than a lot of people give him. But I'm not tooting a horn, and I still think that guy sucks, but it's hard to argue with three strong matches.

I think it's just personal preference here, but Eddie's matches might seem less "polished" than the HHH/Benoit matches or Jericho's recent work (especially the match with Orton on Raw a few weeks ago) because they were. They were brawls in a hate-filled rivalry, not WWE Main Event Style matches, generally worked with all the emotion of Charlie Haas promo until it's time to go for the Hot Sequence To Lift the Crowd Up or the Hot Sequence To Bring the Match Home. Benoit and Angle are masters of the match as both have always had a knack for making the downtime in the matches (which there's always plenty of) engaging, whereas I think it's fair to say HHH isn't on that level in that regard. Rock was great at it, Austin too. Michaels and Jericho have the same problem with the style that Hunter does, in my opinion, and it's also what some of Orton's matches lack for me - the ability to make the unexciting parts of the match interesting.

WWE wrestling is different than ROH or other indies or TNA or Japan or anywhere else. Their "sports-entertainment" tag is just as much of a ring style as lucha libre, in a way. Honestly, Eddie's only done a main event like that two times, and both times were this year, and both were very good -> great matches.

Anyway, Eddie/Angle match at SummerSlam should be back to Eddie's regular stuff, like the Mania match with Angle and the NWO match with Lesnar. Odds are Angle is going to come out as reckless as always (reckless in an entertaining, bad-for-his-body, Chris Benoit kind of way) despite the ever-furthering risk of serious health issues. That one should be polished all over the place, although to me it would probably be more fun if Guerrero continued working emotionally and as more of a determined, angry scrapper than the standard they tend to present. Guerrero/Angle worked that way could be absolutely outstanding. I think Guerrero is the best in the company at getting the story of the match across just through his emotions while wrestling, the sort of thing that always separated Shawn Michaels from the other guys in his prime.

Hmm. I apologize if none of that answered the question at all.



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