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#81 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.59
Maybe Matt figures that he does not want to work for a company that is not loyal to its employees. Matt did nothing wrong in this scenario and he was fired. Edge and Lita were 100% wrong and they get main storlyine pushes and a slap on the wrist. Would you want to go back and work for that company? I wouldn't.

However, Matt SHOULD keep his mouth closed and take the higher road. But then again, I never lost my girlfriend to my best friend and then got fired because of their affair.



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#82 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.87
I think Matt just doesn't give a fuck right now. Why should he worry with being classy so he has a chance to go back to the company that shit on him? A company that pushes to the top the two people that ripped his personal life apart? He's probably thinking "screw it" and I don't blame him. Edge's wife was right on the money. If Matt could have aired all this dirty laundry in a way that Vince could have made some money he would have been ALL over it. If he could have set up a "Pay $5 and watch the streaming video interview with Matt Hardy on WWE.com" Vince would have pissed his drawers setting that up. Matt doesn't care about burning bridges with the folks that used and abused him.
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#83 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by Underwater
    Matt's situation does seem the most like Eddie's. I could possibly see him coming back if he could actually get his shit together. While Eddie had to realize that he screwed up and get off drugs, Matt needs to grow up and stop being such a fucking pussy.
I disagree (but not with the part about him possibly coming back). Eddie was fired because his personal problems (drinking? drugs?) could not be tolerated by his employer (or any other employer, for that matter). Matt wasnt fired because of his personal problems, or because Lita cheated on him, or because Edge cheated on his wife, or because his shit isnt together. He was fired because he publicized the personal affairs of fellow employees, which in turn had a negative effect on how crowds were reacting to them (Yes, I know those personal affairs were his too, but you get the idea).

The popularity of their performers & the reactions they receive from crowds is what WWE (& professional wrestling in general) is based on, and if WWE felt that someone within their own ranks was interfering with any of that in a public forum like the internet, I can see why they would have a problem with that.

All that being said, of course the things Matt has gone through during the last few months have been pretty awful & I'm sorry he's gone, but I can totally see WWE's side of this too.



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#84 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.05
    Originally posted by Wpob
    Maybe Matt figures that he does not want to work for a company that is not loyal to its employees. Matt did nothing wrong in this scenario and he was fired. Edge and Lita were 100% wrong and they get main storlyine pushes and a slap on the wrist. Would you want to go back and work for that company? I wouldn't.

    However, Matt SHOULD keep his mouth closed and take the higher road. But then again, I never lost my girlfriend to my best friend and then got fired because of their affair.



Edge and Lita hooking up has NOTHING to do with business. I mean, there are what, about 45-50 guys in each locker room. If the E had to play traffic cop for all the fights, disagreements or general dislike that's rampant in any locker room, there'd be no time to come up with dumb gimmicks. I'm sure when push comes to shove, the McMahons don't care who's fucking as long as it doesn't blow up into a situation that messes up business. Matt blew this situation up on the net to get people on his side, he's letting Edge's wife accuse Edge and Lita of steroid use, at this point he's 100 percent in the wrong.

Having an affair isn't a firable offense.
Lita and Edge kept their mouth shut and are doing their job.
Matt basically sold out the locker room.
This reminds me of when Lawler walked out and started all the stuff on the net about him and Carter getting their jobs back.
I remember JR in the Ross Report simply stating that Lawler wasn't helping his situation in the slightest.
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#85 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Lita and Edge kept their mouth shut and are doing their job.

What, exactly, would they have said? They come out looking like assholes, of course they kept their yaps shut. Don't give Edge/Lita any credit for keeping quiet.



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#86 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79

    Originally posted by Wpob
    Maybe Matt figures that he does not want to work for a company that is not loyal to its employees.


In that case, he should have talked to the Hart family before signing a deal with WWE, then gotten a job with the North Carolina Humane Society and played with dogs all day.

(edited by asteroidboy on 19.4.05 1351)

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#87 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff

      Lita and Edge kept their mouth shut and are doing their job.

    What, exactly, would they have said? They come out looking like assholes, of course they kept their yaps shut. Don't give Edge/Lita any credit for keeping quiet.


Did you ever stop to think that there are two sides (in this case 4) to every story? This is why it was wrong for Matt and his little buddies to post shit on the internet and talk to the Torch. There's really no way for Edge or Lita to get out whatever their side of the story is. Maybe they're totally in the wrong and are a-holes, maybe they aren't but there's really nothing they can do to defend themselves.

Edge or Lita didn't get Matt Hardy fired. They had nothing to do with it. Matt made the wrong enemies in management and I wouldn't have been surprised if they had released him anyways. I'm sure Johnny Ace looked at him like a Test or Billy Kidman. They were only keeping him employeed to keep his girlfriend happy.



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#88 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
You do realize that the *married* Edge cheated on his wife with the *longtime* girlfriend of one of his *best friends*?

And that Matt gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw, and that he stayed loyal to Lita through her serious neck injury, only to see Lita cheat on him while he was hurt?

And they did all of this behind Matt's back?

I wasn't aware there was another side to the story, much less one that they can use to defend themselves.



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#89 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
BOLD PREDICTION: The WWE brings up Alexis Laree within a year, and Lita's gone. Too often injured, and while Matt has become a whiny shell of his former self...she was (in part) the catalyst for the whole thing. Edge is too important to the company's future (at least right now) to be cut loose, probably due to a much better (financially) contract...but if he keeps getting injured like he seems to (shoulder, hand, neck), he might be in trouble.



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#90 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
Spaceman Spiff: You do realize that the *married* Edge cheated on his wife with the *longtime* girlfriend of one of his *best friends*?

And that Matt gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw, and that he stayed loyal to Lita through her serious neck injury, only to see Lita cheat on him while he was hurt?

And they did all of this behind Matt's back?

I wasn't aware there was another side to the story, much less one that they can use to defend themselves.


I think the moral of the story would be there wouldn't *be* another side of the story if Matt hadn't been a petulant whiner on the 'net. Because this wouldn't be a story, outside of vague speculation in the Torch...

speaking of Keller:

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Maybe the rest of the country will see it as a lame interpretation of a "YOU SCREWED BRET" (Trish is a) "SLUT!" chant by people who don't get out much. OH SHIT THE NET IS EVERYWHERE

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#91 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    You do realize that the *married* Edge cheated on his wife with the *longtime* girlfriend of one of his *best friends*?

    And that Matt gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw, and that he stayed loyal to Lita through her serious neck injury, only to see Lita cheat on him while he was hurt?

    And they did all of this behind Matt's back?

    I wasn't aware there was another side to the story, much less one that they can use to defend themselves.
Except that they also work for a company that held meetings with all wrestlers on both rosters that they’re not to be leaking stuff like this to the dirt sheets like the Torch. Matt blatantly violated that company rule, it affected the on-screen product and the way fans reacted to both Edge and Lita, and he got canned because of it. There isn’t a company on the planet that won’t fire an employee for a similar offense.
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#92 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I'm not saying they shouldn't have fired him (personally, I would have kept him), but I find it hard to see the "other side" that would make Edge & Lita look good.


    I think the moral of the story would be there wouldn't *be* another side of the story if Matt hadn't been a petulant whiner on the 'net. Because this wouldn't be a story, outside of vauge specualtion in the Torch...

Maybe, maybe not. But when people don't see Matt & Lita together, and don't see her pics on his site, and possibly see Edge & Lita together, and possibly see Edge & his wife separated, people would be able to put 2 and 2 together. It would eventually come out.



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X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

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        Forward this to media so that it all goes on tabloid TV and perhaps pressures the WWE to get rid of obviously 'roided wrestlers the way that baseball has had to respond to the steroids issue?
      That would make the entire federation... Spike, Nunzio, Lance Storm, and Davari.

      We may need to cut back to one show a week.
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#94 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.34
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    but I find it hard to see the "other side" that would make Edge & Lita look good.


If Matt Hardy hadn't blabbed about it on his website, very few people would likely know about this and it wouldn't be such a "story". I seriously doubt Edge and Lita would be publicizing it, seeing how management frowns upon their workers hooking up, AND given the fact that Edge was married, AND given the fact that Lita was hooked up with ANOTHER co-worker already.

HOWEVER, if Edge and/or Lita put out a statement to the effect of "we didn't mean for this to happen and we're sorry people got hurt (and fired) but we didn't realize we were both unhappy and now we're in love and happy and blahblblah", how could you rag on them for that, really? They're just people, after all.



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#95 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    But when people don't see Matt & Lita together, and don't see her pics on his site, and possibly see Edge & Lita together, and possibly see Edge & his wife separated,


That's a decent bit of possiblies having to work out right.

If Matt, after taking down the pics, had just said "We broke up. It happens. We're both moving on.", this thing turns out 145 degrees different.

The important lesson: do not have a website!



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#96 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      But when people don't see Matt & Lita together, and don't see her pics on his site, and possibly see Edge & Lita together, and possibly see Edge & his wife separated,


    That's a decent bit of possiblies having to work out right.

    If Matt, after taking down the pics, had just said "We broke up. It happens. We're both moving on.", this thing turns out 145 degrees different.

    The important lesson: do not have a website!


Or, more importantly, don't divulge personal info on the internet. I can't tell anything about Cubs from his website other than he likes the Cubs and wrestling.



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#97 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.49
Way Cool New York crowd: "YOU SCREWED MATT!" (Lita is a) "SLUT!"

Am I the only one thinking that "YOU SCREWED LITA" would be the better chant?



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#98 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Freeway420
      Originally posted by thecubsfan

        But when people don't see Matt & Lita together, and don't see her pics on his site, and possibly see Edge & Lita together, and possibly see Edge & his wife separated,


      That's a decent bit of possiblies having to work out right.

      If Matt, after taking down the pics, had just said "We broke up. It happens. We're both moving on.", this thing turns out 145 degrees different.

      The important lesson: do not have a website!


    Or, more importantly, don't divulge personal info on the internet. I can't tell anything about Cubs from his website other than he likes the Cubs and wrestling.


He doesn't really like the Cubbies. He's just waiting to gain enough popularity so he can turn heel and become a White Sox fan.

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#99 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    You do realize that the *married* Edge cheated on his wife with the *longtime* girlfriend of one of his *best friends*?

    And that Matt gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw, and that he stayed loyal to Lita through her serious neck injury, only to see Lita cheat on him while he was hurt?

    And they did all of this behind Matt's back?

    I wasn't aware there was another side to the story, much less one that they can use to defend themselves.


Gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw? Isn't this quite an exaggeration? I recall at the time of the switch that Matt Hardy was doing a whole lot of nothing on Smackdown. He was barely getting used, much less pushed. It seemed that some were hoping that moving to Raw would be the start of something. Ultimately, he did a whole lot of nothing on Raw too (though the angle with Kane and Lita was the first significant thing he had been involved in quite a while, though it mostly sucked).

Matt may have made a lot of sacrifices for Lita, but switching to Raw wasn't one of them.



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#100 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.43
    Originally posted by ges7184
      Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      You do realize that the *married* Edge cheated on his wife with the *longtime* girlfriend of one of his *best friends*?

      And that Matt gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw, and that he stayed loyal to Lita through her serious neck injury, only to see Lita cheat on him while he was hurt?

      And they did all of this behind Matt's back?

      I wasn't aware there was another side to the story, much less one that they can use to defend themselves.


    Gave up stardom on SD to be closer to Lita on Raw? Isn't this quite an exaggeration? I recall at the time of the switch that Matt Hardy was doing a whole lot of nothing on Smackdown. He was barely getting used, much less pushed. It seemed that some were hoping that moving to Raw would be the start of something. Ultimately, he did a whole lot of nothing on Raw too (though the angle with Kane and Lita was the first significant thing he had been involved in quite a while, though it mostly sucked).

    Matt may have made a lot of sacrifices for Lita, but switching to Raw wasn't one of them.


Um, wasn't Matt the longest running Cruiserweight Champion on Smackdown only losing it because he was moving to Raw to be with Lita?



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