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- Ted Kennedy looked way better than I was expecting, and gave a fine speech.

- Michelle Obama was money out there tonight. I didn't realize that she was such a great speaker and came off like she was talking to just a few people instead of a National Audience. I think she connected well, and am intersted to see if the Republicans still try to slam her as hard as they have after tonight.

- I'm not a fan of little kid moments, but that couldn't have gone off any better.

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A really scary story popped up yesterday, in which a potential Obama assassination plot was foiled in Denver, with would-be assassins caught on their way to the DNC site.


    But in the rented vehicle of Tharin Gartrell, a 28-year-old convicted felon, they found two high-powered scoped rifles, ammunition, sighting scopes, radios, a cellphone, a bulletproof vest, wigs, drugs and fake IDs.

    According to Brian Masss of Denver's KCNC Channel 4, under questioning Gartrell implicated two other men -- Nathan Johnson, who is 32, and Shawn Adolph, who is 33 -- and Johnson's girlfriend, Natasha Gromack. Johnson also reportedly confirmed the plot to FBI and Secret Service interrogators.

    One of the men, Adolph, reportedly wore a ring with the Nazi swastika. He was injured when he jumped out of a hotel window fleeing Secret Service agents. All are now in custody on drug and weapons charges.


It's almost a foregone conclusion that the closer the election gets, the more the kooks will come out of the woodwork. Thankfully, the authorities acted quickly before anything bad happened.

(edited by It's False on 26.8.08 1511)



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.79
I saw that story. Must say, I'll be watching that speech Thursday with some tension, fearing a Bobby Kennedy moment.

Last night was a fine show. Michelle Obama knocked her speech out of the park, and the little kids grabbing the mic and talking to Barack (via video) was a very humanizing moment. Ted Kennedy was a moment that will always be remembered as something special.

But, really, they NEED to start going on the attack during this convention, because you know the GOP won't waste a night in taking an opportunity to go after Barack. And, as someone on CNN said this morning, if you aren't on offense, you are on defense.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.03
    Originally posted by OMEGA

    But, really, they NEED to start going on the attack during this convention, because you know the GOP won't waste a night in taking an opportunity to go after Barack. And, as someone on CNN said this morning, if you aren't on offense, you are on defense.


My guess is Wednesday night's speech by Biden will be the most aggressive speech of the convention.

I must say that I am worried about Bill Clinton's speech. I think Hilary will do as she has said and enthusiastically support Obama but I think Bill is still really pissed and won't be able to hide that entirely. We'll see.




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
Polls(Well at least the polls FOXNews uses) show today McCain now in the lead.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.41
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Polls(Well at least the polls FOXNews uses) show today McCain now in the lead.


The problem with those polls - the nationwide ones (besides, of course, being opinion polls) - is that they don't pay homage to the electoral college. Fivethirtyeight.com takes the polling by state and breaks the election down that way, and right now they have Obama by an okay (but not huge) margin.

Another thing to remember about polling is a great deal of Obama's support, the youngsters, don't get counted because they don't always have landlines and not as much polling is done on mobiles. That's discounting the youth that support McCain, of course, or folks of older age that also rely on cells. But the largest portion unrepresented by polling is going to be Obama supporters.



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    Originally posted by PeterStork
    But the largest portion unrepresented by polling is going to be Obama supporters.

Or those of us who don't answer polls when they call.
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    Originally posted by PeterStork
    Another thing to remember about polling is a great deal of Obama's support, the youngsters, don't get counted because they don't always have landlines and not as much polling is done on mobiles.


A lot of people say this, and it's a good point. However, every year, the youth vote come out in VERY disappointing numbers. I have every reason to believe that this year will be more of the same (young people act excited, say they'll go out in droves, and then realize that the election is on the same night as Britney's party).



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    Originally posted by OMEGA
      Originally posted by PeterStork
      Another thing to remember about polling is a great deal of Obama's support, the youngsters, don't get counted because they don't always have landlines and not as much polling is done on mobiles.


    A lot of people say this, and it's a good point. However, every year, the youth vote come out in VERY disappointing numbers. I have every reason to believe that this year will be more of the same (young people act excited, say they'll go out in droves, and then realize that the election is on the same night as Britney's party).


I'm not saying there's a guarantee that youth will deliver in the number that the Democrat's say they will, but there's a big difference in the draw of Obama vs. Kerry or Gore. And the mobilization of Obama's staff - and the ridiculous number of voters they're registering (again, no guarantee of a Tuesday visit) differs this election from previous youth vote facepalms. The primaries showed some of this in college towns helping to destroy Hillary.



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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by PeterStork
      But the largest portion unrepresented by polling is going to be Obama supporters.

    Or those of us who don't answer polls when they call.



That was the Kerry Theory and it turned out to be the opposite.

The silent ones tend to vote Conservative which would help McCain.

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Okay, Brian Schweitzer just brought the house down at the convention, and finally gave the speech that Democrats have been waiting for.

What the HELL were the DNC thinking, giving Mark Warner the key-note speech slot? Warner brought the crowd to sleep, in his prime slot. Then Schweitzer came out, with nobody watching, and soon enough CNN & Fox News (though no MSNBC) started broadcasting his speech, because he was ROCKING the convention.



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    Originally posted by OMEGA
    Okay, Brian Schweitzer just brought the house down at the convention, and finally gave the speech that Democrats have been waiting for.
Nobody watched it.

    What the HELL were the DNC thinking, giving Mark Warner the key-note speech slot?
Nobody watched it.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
5 people clapped when Hillary said Biden will be a good V.P.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    5 people clapped when Hillary said Biden will be a good V.P.




Lemme guess,

1. Obama
2. Biden's wife
3. Begala
4. Carville
5. Bill (he was workin that camera as usual)
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.03
    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by CajunMan
      5 people clapped when Hillary said Biden will be a good V.P.




    Lemme guess,

    1. Obama
    2. Biden's wife
    3. Begala
    4. Carville
    5. Bill (he was workin that camera as usual)


And me! Big time!




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
Schweitzer/Warner in 2016?



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Back to the youth vote for a second - I recognize that I am older than most of you, so I do have this memory.

I was a young liberal once, and my candidate for change (although I was too young to vote at the time) was a young (50 years old) Senator from a midwestern state, against the war in Vietnam, huge youth vote.

Except they didn't vote. Now, I am not saying that will happen this year. But it could.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.93
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    Back to the youth vote for a second - I recognize that I am older than most of you, so I do have this memory.

    I was a young liberal once, and my candidate for change (although I was too young to vote at the time) was a young (50 years old) Senator from a midwestern state, against the war in Vietnam, huge youth vote.

    Except they didn't vote. Now, I am not saying that will happen this year. But it could.


It's the same but different. They weren't voting for McCarthy but against Johnson within the same party and had to be 21.

I honestly think Obama'a biggest hurdle is the latent racism lurking out there and I don't mean the Republicans. You combine the fact he's black and the fear of the unknown, there is a recipe to vote against him. We have come a long, long way as a nation but I don't know. I also think there would have been anti-woman sentiment if Hillary won.

For me, I think the election will boil down to McCain's age and foibles vs. Obama being different and how good a job they can do painting him as a flaming socialist just this side of communist.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.17
    Originally posted by General Zod
      Originally posted by wmatistic
        Originally posted by CajunMan
        5 people clapped when Hillary said Biden will be a good V.P.




      Lemme guess,

      1. Obama
      2. Biden's wife
      3. Begala
      4. Carville
      5. Bill (he was workin that camera as usual)


    And me! Big time!

Hey, don't discount "Young white chick with Herpes sore". She got a lot of camera time too.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
I saw on youtube/foxnews Michelle Malkin got heckled/attacked.

Anybody heard from Ann Coulter this week?
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