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#41 Posted on
The problem with forecasting an extended Edge/Angle feud is that Edge lost clean last night (well, clean except for a little chair tomfoolery, and the chair didn't figure into the finish, which makes it clean by WWF standards). In Tajiri/Kidman you can continue the feud with "You wouldn't have beaten me if you hadn't used the red mist," and with RVD/Eddie you have "You wouldn't have beaten me if you hadn't used the belt." There's no such excuse or accusation Edge can reasonably make.
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#42 Posted on
You know, before you rend ALL your garments, I feel I have to point out that it's not TOTALLY out of the realm of possibility to have Triple H win the belt back on a SmackDown! before the next big show...or perhaps I'm SO desperate to make good on my earlier "Triple H/Undertaker and Hogan/Jericho @JD, Practically Guaranteed" prediction that I'm clutching at straws. ;-)

I guess we'll all have a better idear after RAW - but if they set up a big title match for SmackDown! I want some FUCKING KUDOS MAN



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#43 Posted on
I agree with chazworthington who said that they might as well give Hogan the belt now than later, since it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that he would get the belt when he arrived. Short-term, it's a smart move since Hogan's popular right now. Long-term, Hogan is a bad investment, but I think the Fed knows this. At any rate, I'm continuing my boycott of WWF programming until he is gone. But I'm nowhere near as upset as a lot of other people, or as upset as I would have been if I were told a year ago that Hogan was going to return and become champion in 2002.

I'd love to see this become a short title reign like his last one, but I think they'll let it go on for a little while.

But in the most important match, Chuckabilly retains! Yes!




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#44 Posted on

    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    And I blame years of top-rope headbutts for Benoit`s injury. Not HHH.

Yeah, and a top-rope headbutt down to and through a table on the floor with no one there to cut it off has a propensity to cause injury... *rolleyes*

And would Benoit have been in a position to do a spot like that if Triple H had not gotten hurt? Nope.



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#45 Posted on

    Originally posted by Texas Kelly

      Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
      And I blame years of top-rope headbutts for Benoit`s injury. Not HHH.

    Yeah, and a top-rope headbutt down to and through a table on the floor with no one there to cut it off has a propensity to cause injury... *rolleyes*

    And would Benoit have been in a position to do a spot like that if Triple H had not gotten hurt? Nope.


That spot was planned, and thus you can blame the booker. Who may or may not have been the H. Or the cow he's tapping.



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#46 Posted on

    Originally posted by Travis
    That spot was planned, and thus you can blame the booker. Who may or may not have been the H. Or the cow he's tapping.

Yes, the spot may have been planned... but the match does not happen if our friend Jean-Paul Levesque doesn't get hurt. By extension, the spot in which Benoit got hurt doesn't happen if JPL doesn't get hurt.



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KANE: Triple H...tonight, I will burn the flesh from your body!
MICHAEL COLE: OH MY GOD. KANE THREATENING TRIPLE H, SAYING HE'S GONNA BURN THE FLESH FROM HIS BODY!
CRZ: Umm, I heard it the FIRST time!
-- WWF Smackdown, 9/9/99

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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I cant believe you are blaming benoits injury on triple h getting hurt. It's not like he could control that. We dont know what kind of spots would have been set up if he had remained healthy. For all we know there still could have been that spot in there.



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#48 Posted on

    Originally posted by SerWolfe
    I cant believe you are blaming benoits injury on triple h getting hurt. It's not like he could control that. We dont know what kind of spots would have been set up if he had remained healthy. For all we know there still could have been that spot in there.

I'm NOT blaming Benoit's injury on Triple H's injury... I am merely pointing out the fact that if Triple H had not gotten hurt, Benoit would NOT have been in a position to do the same. There's a DISTINCT difference.



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KANE: Triple H...tonight, I will burn the flesh from your body!
MICHAEL COLE: OH MY GOD. KANE THREATENING TRIPLE H, SAYING HE'S GONNA BURN THE FLESH FROM HIS BODY!
CRZ: Umm, I heard it the FIRST time!
-- WWF Smackdown, 9/9/99

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#49 Posted on
Y'know, I'm not ready to jump off a bridge because of Hogan's win, because I had a feeling it would happen. I had zero doubt that Hogan wouldn't come back to the WWF without a guarantee of at least one more title run; the fact that it happened in red-and-yellow instead of in Hollywood black was merely a by-product of the fans' nostalgic overreactions. If there was ever a time to put the belt on 2002 Hogan, it was now, while the fans are still finding him entertaining and reliving their childhoods and such.

If he's still champ by Summerslam, or if the old Hogan Squashes the Monster Heel Du Jour formula rears its ugly head once more, it will be time to panic.

Now, in his ongoing PPV report, Wade Keller had one great line during the Hogan-HHH match: "This is beginning to feel too much like WCW in 1998." Think back to 1998, and what their Nitros and PPVs were like -- horrifying storylines, matches and participants at the top of the card, but enough meat in the undercard to keep some actual wrestling fans interested. You could tune in early for Rey vs. Juvi, Jericho vs. Malenko, Eddy vs. Ultimo Dragon or Booker vs. Benoit, then go to sleep or change the channel secure in the knowledge that all you'd miss would be the 273rd NWO swerve or Piper vs. Hogan or Ed Leslie vs. Mongo or something equally execrable.

At Backlash, we had a passable cruiserweight title match, Edge vs. Angle, and RVD vs. Eddy before the roof caved in. A faint bell of familiarity is ringing.

(Of course, 1998 WCW had quality imports like Ultimo Dragon, Magnum TOKYO, Yuji Nagata, and the luchadores. Would that the WWF would follow suit...)






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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    I am merely pointing out the fact that if Triple H had not gotten hurt, Benoit would NOT have been in a position to do the same. There's a DISTINCT difference.
Your "fact" is wrong. Benoit was injured far before he got involved in the Jericho/TMPT angle. Heck, I even remember Meltzer, for some time, on WOL saying you could tell he was favoring one arm over the other as one was noticably bigger than the other.

Benoit was headed for surgery to alleviate the problem, but opted to stick it out when he got his run at the top of the card so suddenly. The TLC spot through the table basically WORSENED the injury.

Basically, Benoit was hurt already. BEFORE HHH tore his quad.



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#51 Posted on

    Originally posted by Papercuts!
    Benoit was headed for surgery to alleviate the problem, but opted to stick it out when he got his run at the top of the card so suddenly. The TLC spot through the table basically WORSENED the injury.

OK, so then HHH's injury was a precursor to Benoit being out for a year, as opposed to four months or something like that. That's eight months more Benoit than we've gotten in the past year....



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KANE: Triple H...tonight, I will burn the flesh from your body!
MICHAEL COLE: OH MY GOD. KANE THREATENING TRIPLE H, SAYING HE'S GONNA BURN THE FLESH FROM HIS BODY!
CRZ: Umm, I heard it the FIRST time!
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    OK, so then HHH's injury was a precursor to Benoit being out for a year, as opposed to four months or something like that. That's eight months more Benoit than we've gotten in the past year....
No, Benoit's lack of judgement is what cost him being out a year. HE, as in CHRIS BENOIT HIMSELF (NOT HHH's quadricep injury), made the decision NOT to have surgery because he was getting a run at the top. This was BEFORE HHH was injured. They were getting the titles the night of HHH's injury ANYWAY. Chris Benoit, not HHH's quad tear, made the decision to continue performing through an injury, with his performance making said injury WORSE. Instead of asking for a rain check on the push and getting well, he opted for the quick fix and it ultimately cost him.

I think I've pretty much explained it about three different ways now. If it's not getting through to you, I'm sorry.



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#53 Posted on

yo, Texas Kelly ....

Let it go, dude. I hear what you're saying, but all we know for sure is that time travel, and the rewriting of history, is fraught with peril.

Besides, we've got bigger fish to fry right here in THIS dimension. Hogan's champ again, and that's a LIVING nightmare.

In fact, if you really want to laugh, watch that tape of Hogan-HHH in slo-mo. There are sections where it doesn't look like they're moving AT ALL.

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#54 Posted on

    Originally posted by shea

    yo, Texas Kelly ....

    Let it go, dude. I hear what you're saying, but all we know for sure is that time travel, and the rewriting of history, is fraught with peril.

    Besides, we've got bigger fish to fry right here in THIS dimension. Hogan's champ again, and that's a LIVING nightmare.

    In fact, if you really want to laugh, watch that tape of Hogan-HHH in slo-mo. There are sections where it doesn't look like they're moving AT ALL.



That was the H trying to be "cerebral" and "pull a good match out of Hogan". And Hogan let him have it because it killed Hunter's heat. It's all part of the plan, DUDE.



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#55 Posted on
The first part of Austin Vs Ut was funny just to see Steve channel the spirit of Ricky Steamboat and bust out a couple of arm drags. (Plus it was funny to see the nWo stand around like a couple of stoners and do nothing. I think the were never ment to interfere in that match and the Hall and Whitman got lost backstage.)
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#56 Posted on
Hey, here's something I don't think anyone else has noticed...wasn't there supposed to be a Spike/Regal match on the card last night?



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#57 Posted on
...damn. It's the smarkpocalypse.

Hell, I'm no Hogan fan. But there're possibilities with this storyline.

He's got 'Taker at the next PPV, unless something happens in the meantime. All sorts of history there.

But what about Flair? Who does he back now? He hates 'Taker. But does he hate him enough to back Hulk Hogan?

If the WWF doesn't drop the ball on the writing, there's potential for entertainment outside the ring, at least.



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#58 Posted on

    Originally posted by Chumpstain
    Your sign was indeed spotlighted during the show! Everyone I was watching with also made fun of the spelling, but I guess it was intentional.. to your credit, in retrospect, Jericho did pronounce it wrong.
No, he pronounced it the way Canadians pronounce it. Which is what we were going for. We knew some wouldn't get it and think it was a spelling error, but that it would be funny for those who did get it. And that he actually SAID it was gold because those who DIDN'T get it suddenly had to think twice about it.
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#59 Posted on

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Hey, here's something I don't think anyone else has noticed...wasn't there supposed to be a Spike/Regal match on the card last night?

Well, it was never actually announced, so I guess not. I, like other people, assumed it would end up happening. I think it might be because they are planning on having Regal win the title back at the next match, so they couldn't fit a match at the PPV into the storyline.
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#60 Posted on
Regarding Benoit: the neck injury was coming LONG before the TLC match. Heck, I remember a passage in one of Foley's books where he mentioned how Harley Race had been trying to talk Benoit out of doing that move anymore, since he was setting himself up for a problem later.

But it looks like we've more or less got our Judgment Day main events: Taker/Hogan for the title, and probably HHH/Jericho for the #1 contender's spot.
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