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Since: 24.2.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.31
I don't think there's a current opened thread for this, so here we go.

I was able to see this today and really enjoyed it.  It's not without flaws, but neither was The Dark Knight, which it is pretty much on par with, even if they both have very different strengths.  

Without revealing anything, the film's final minutes are absolutely incredible.  Some of my favorite minutes of any film, really.  

I've written up a full, spoiler-free review on my blog (londonfilmfanatiq.com) for those so inclined.

I honestly can't see this film not pleasing less than 98% of fans. 




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
Thanks for the review. This is driving me crazy: This is probably the most-anticipated film for me since the last Batman movie, which I actually flew to another city to see when it opened because there were no English-language showings where I lived at the time. But I can't go see it until the first week of August, because my girlfriend who made me promise I'd wait to see it with her is out of town until then.

Anyway, I want to ask about this line from your review:

Whilst Nolan’s insistence on keeping his Batman firmly grounded in reality has always been welcomed, it does make some plot points more difficult to swallow than they may otherwise be in a more fantasy based feature (not to mention the lack of blood displayed).


Can you give an example minimizing spoilers? Or use an example from the previous two films if you want. I'm just surprised to read this, I think the brilliance of Nolan's Batman is in how incredibly well he has done avoiding this very problem.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.31
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Thanks for the review. This is driving me crazy: This is probably the most-anticipated film for me since the last Batman movie, which I actually flew to another city to see when it opened because there were no English-language showings where I lived at the time. But I can't go see it until the first week of August, because my girlfriend who made me promise I'd wait to see it with her is out of town until then.

    Anyway, I want to ask about this line from your review:

    Whilst Nolan’s insistence on keeping his Batman firmly grounded in reality has always been welcomed, it does make some plot points more difficult to swallow than they may otherwise be in a more fantasy based feature (not to mention the lack of blood displayed).


    Can you give an example minimizing spoilers? Or use an example from the previous two films if you want. I'm just surprised to read this, I think the brilliance of Nolan's Batman is in how incredibly well he has done avoiding this very problem.


I'm referring to a couple specific moments in TDKR. There's something that is reminiscent to a moment in The Avengers where I went "wait, how is that possible?" I think Nolan pushes the suspension of disbelief more in this film than he has in the past, at least in a few select moments.




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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
The first guy to give a negative review on Rotten Tomatoes got death threats

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/17/critic-faces-death-threats-over-bad-dark-knight-rises-review/

AP critic Christy Lemire gave 2/4 stars and also got a lot of bile her way. Keep in mind this was all from people who HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE MOVIE YET.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
The internet is full of fuckwits, to be sure.

If you haven't seen it, here's (rottentomatoes.com) Rotten Tomatoes' post on the behaviour of some commenters as well as one reviewer who chose to post a faux negative review.

"But if I could ask everyone for one thing, it's this: don't be a dick."

Words to live by right there and if adhered to by all it'd instantly result in in a 90% reduction in comments on random YouTube videos.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.12
Ebert gave it 3 stars (bit.ly), saying the plot was murky but the finale was sensational.

I may have had a plot point spoiled by a toy yesterday.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=btMtwz4P0fc

They re-cut the trailer with the original voice actors. I am DVRing this even though I have all of it on DVD. I am so hyped.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
Saw it for a second time tonight at the European premiere and I'd probably drop it to an 8/10. Past the initial excitement/spectacle, there are some real problems. There are a several scenes/sections of dialogue that really should have been cut. This film does not need to be as long as it is and suffers because of that. The audio was still an issue at a different cinema and the action sequences really are no more than fine. Once you know what happens & where things are going, it loses some lustre in a way Batman Begins doesn't.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.99
Yes or no, does this movie suffer because they couldn't use the Joker?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
    Originally posted by texasranger9
    Yes or no, does this movie suffer because they couldn't use the Joker?


No. Who is to say what the final film would be like if Ledger was still with us, though?




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Got to see it tonight at an early screening thanks to my roommate winning tickets on the radio. I was skeptical of a lot of things when I watched the trailer (Catwoman being non-cheesy, Bane having believable motivations) but all those worries were all washed away. Overall I loved it and I think it is a great end cap to Nolan's Bat movies.

There are more scenes filmed in IMAX in this movie than in The Dark Knight BUT if you're on a budget I don't think it's worth paying extra for. EDIT: I forgot that IMAX sound was different from that found in normal theaters. The music and sound effects were really good and added an extra "oomph" to every punch. When also taking that into consideration I would say IMAX *is* worth it.

Below are some non-spoiler thoughts that don't give away any plot points, but are things you may want to form your own opinion on, so read at your own peril:


- They did an OK job tying this into Dark Knight, but it did feel a little forced.
- I actually got chills when Batman first appeared on screen. It was a nice build up.
- The set pieces in Gotham were great.
- The one-on-one fight sequences between Bane and Batman had such power behind them; they made you really feel like these were two titans battling each other, in a class above the rest.
- This movie overall kind of felt like "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" did to the original Indy trilogy. As a film it was more akin to the feel of the first movie than the second, introduced new characters that didn't feel out of place, and was still epic in it's own right.

I will definitely be seeing this again.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.58
There was a point in the middle of the movie where I was feeling like it wasn't working; I was having trouble buying some of the character motivations and it didn't seem to all tie together. By the end, however, all of my concerns were addressed. As LotM said, "Themes are re-visited and by the time he has worked his magic, it all seems to makes perfect sense."

If you haven't seen the first two recently and you only watched them once or twice, it would be well worth seeing them again before you see this one. The Lovely Future Mrs. Hegemon suggested we watch them before going to this one and I'm very glad she did. (Plus, it was great fun seeing Joffrey in BB!)

Guess we weren't the only ones having trouble understanding Bane. Is his dialogue more clear in IMAX?
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#13 Posted on
I liked it, but as some have said it did drag a bit in the middle. However, the last 10 minutes more than made up for it. I do have to say, out of the villians in this trilogy, Bane was the one I liked the least.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54
Without spoiling anything, I can say that you see a lot more callbacks to Batman Begins than The Dark Knight.

Yes, this movie was awesome! Bane was a legit scary villain. He was on the level of Joker, except while Joker represented mass chaos, Bane represented more of an organized evil.

Fan service a'plenty to be found here, too! Bat-fans will know them when they see them.




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#15 Posted on
It's nice to know I wasn't the only one who felt DKR has closers ties to Begins than TDK. I think enjoyment of the movie hinges on how the viewer accepts Gotham City's place in the Nolanverse. I had a discussion with a friend over FB about the flaws of Bane going after the Bat and the world's apathy at Gotham. I may bring that spoilery discussion up later.

My review without spoilers or major revelations.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
There is a lot packed into 2 hours and 45 minutes. A lot to compress. I don't think it is as good as Dark Knight, but it is beter than Begins.

I figured out many of the surprises, but I still couldn't figure how it all came together until the reveal, so that was good. Need to see it again.

I still had trouble understanding Bane when he said short phrases which is a shame because Tom Hardy is awesome. I'd put him up close to Ledger if it wasn't for that. Nolan once again reinvents a character and I'd say this Bane is better than anything ever presented in the comics. And let this finally shut up the Spider-Man apologists who keep saying the actor's face has to be seen.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
Loved it. As a fan of the comics, there was a ton of lipservice done. Yes, I did figure out one of the surprises even though one of the flashbacks makes you really question it. The last reveal, I was dumbstruck.

I am not a giant fan of Dark Knight mainly for a few reason. One, Ledger's Joker will awesome isn't the greatest take on Joker and a little too chaos for the sake of chaos. Two, is Rachel Dowes. I really fucking hate that character even with the recasting. She just comes off as someone that just seems impossible to please. Lastly, not a fan of keeping Joker alive and killing Harvey. That left a bad taste in my mouth.

In this movie, I didn't hate any of the characters. I liked the use of time through out the film. The bad taste of killing Harvey was gone. The action scenes were tight and I really felt emotions with the stories. It might be due to me having spent a lot of time in my childhood in Pitt, so I know some of the area and it did feel like my town was getting wrecked. That add emotional investment really made the film for me.

I have to say if you look at the characters and actors in these films, this may go down as the most star studded of any of the trilogies and everyone minus Katie Holmes really brought their A game in all of the films. I do know that its getting panned in various places, but man this is Best Picture for me. The Alfred scenes had my choked up at times.

Side not, due to what happened in Colorado, I got interviewed by the local press and there was a cop car at the theater. There was also a lot of theater people checking in and out during the film.

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
Just a phenomenal movie. Met my super-high expectations. The poor sucker who directs the next Batman series will have a nigh-insurmountable mountain to climb.

In regards to the 'they glossed over Dark Knight' a little bit, they essentially had no choice. Any mention of Joker would've a) brought back memories of Ledger and b) distracted focus from Bane's carnage, as the obvious question would've been "what's Joker doing during all of this?" Best to just ignore it completely. TDK did get tied in via the Harvey Dent Day celebration, which as a nice touch. (Though Bane reading Gordon's letter was a little eye-rolling.)

The two major plot twists...


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Sadly, I heard about Cotillard really being Talia early on in the casting process, which was I went into total lockdown on spoilers. Gordon-Levitt as 'Robin' was AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME and drew a legit cheer from my theatre's audience. I was worried they were building his character up just so Bane would kill him off near the end and make him look like even more of a monster.


    Originally posted by Lord of the Manor
      Originally posted by texasranger9
      Yes or no, does this movie suffer because they couldn't use the Joker?


    No. Who is to say what the final film would be like if Ledger was still with us, though?



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Maybe he would've been the judge in the mock court instead of Scarecrow? Or I dunno, Joker was enough of a major force on his own that I don't see him quietly being relegated to a side role in Bane's circus.




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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
I don't get the constant brining up of The Joker. There was absolutely no need for any reference to him. This film is what, 8-9 years after TDK, why would anybody bring him up?
The movie for me was nearly as perfect as could be. A tad bit slow for about 25 minutes in the middle, but it was used to set up the last ten minutes, so it's okay with me.

There was only one phrase Bane said that I couldn't make out, so his voice didn't bother me much.
Everybody in this film was brilliant, and as mentioned before, the one on one fight scenes were top notch. Especially Bane rapid punching Batman, then pulverizing part of that column.
Great film with a worth while ending.
And Michael Caine deserves best supporting actor nominations, he was brilliant. Especially the scene outside Wayne Manor with Gordon and Gordon Levitt.

Edited to add: I did find it hard to get past the very blatant and heavy handed anti capitalism/ 1% BS. I like my superhero movies free from actual social commentary

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
I feel like the odd man out, here: Liked Begins, loved Dark Knight, was kind of disappointed by this one. Aside from Gordon-Levitt's character I didn't feel like anyone went through any particularly noteworthy or believable arcs or changes and the central plot didn't do a lot for me.

It was a good comic-book movie, but I feel like Dark Knight set a higher standard than that.
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