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When it comes down to it, that's what Football games come down.

Anyone have personal preference as to which you like to play and what strategies you use? I mean for example...

I love playing offense. I'm horrible at reading offense when on the d so when I'm playing ESPN NFL football and playing as the rams, I like to pick the screen plays. They always seem to work well and give me enough time to pick my spot and get the ball down the field.



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If you are playing against people, use plays that work, and keep using them until they stop you. I play NCAA 2004, so on D I like using plays that use a spy, because people run with their QB a lot. When I play pro games, I mix it up with zone and man, and I like to blitz to get some pressure on a QB. On D it probably is important to learn how to pick te ball yourself, instead of relying on the comp. If you can take control of a corner or safety when the ball is in the air and pick it off or at least break up the play you will be doing pretty good. On offense set your audibles so you can change the play if you need to, learn how to use hot routes, and learn how to tell if they are in man or zone coverage (just send a guy in motion to learn that). If they are in man look for 1 on 1 matchups, if its zone then you have to know where the holes in the coverage will be and use hot routes or pick plays that exploit those holes.



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Offense usually works for me. I'm lousy at defense in games like Madden 2004. I just have to remember not to take control of the WR, or I'm screwed.

But at heart, I'm a Tecmo Super Bowl guy anyway. And that's more evenly split. On O, I'm always trying to watch the WRs going deep and keep an eye on the pash rush going after my poor QB. (QB Browns, QB Eagles, QB Bills, you know who you are.) :-)

On D, I'll usually take an inside linebacker and watch for a running play. If it's a pass, I've gotta drop back quickly...and hope no WRs got past my DBs. Doesn't work so well when I'm the LA Raiders vs. the Giants, for some reason.



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My official football strategy against the computer....

Defense - On pretty much any down-and-distance over 7 yards I use a dime package, COVER 2 MAN so you get a zone from your safeties and backers but still have a man on the wideouts. If it happens to be a run play, you have plenty of secondary players on the outside to stop a sweep type play and usually your D-line will stop stuff up the middle pretty easily.
Every now and again I blitz, but seems like it doesn't work more often than not.
If it's a shorter down and distance, I might use a 4-3 and blitz at least two backers.
If it's real short, goalline with a man lock.

Offense - I like to use a balanced attack, so I use the Ask Madden or Ask Corso feature a lot. Of course, sometimes they tell you dumb crap so it's a judgement call. But that way it keeps the game from becoming so boring by using the same three plays over and over.



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Defense: Nine times out of 10, I bring out as many cornerbacks as they have receivers and play Under Man or Man-Cover 2 and rely on my d-line to get pressure. If I'm facing teams that simply cannot throw the ball (Baltimore, San Diego) I'll play a 4-6 all day long.

Offense: I usually play as the Pats, so I run a pass-based offense. Singleback, Trips Right, Slot Middle.



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I should also add that my slot receiver is ALWAYS my leading guy so I put my best wideout in that spot. I guess it's the routes they have for the slots that makes it that way.

Fastest receiver on the left to run the bomb patterns and best overall guy in the slot. The guy on the right, eh, don't matter much.

And on college games, never ever ever waste time recruiting a good fullback.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami
    I should also add that my slot receiver is ALWAYS my leading guy so I put my best wideout in that spot. I guess it's the routes they have for the slots that makes it that way.

    Fastest receiver on the left to run the bomb patterns and best overall guy in the slot. The guy on the right, eh, don't matter much.

    And on college games, never ever ever waste time recruiting a good fullback.


You're much less likely to run into double coverage with a lot receiver too. I tend to go for mismatches by looking to get the slot receiver lined up against and LB (doesnt work on 2nd or 3rd and long) and sending him out to the sideline pronto where he catches the ball short and runs down field. Provided your wideout blocks the CB and you've got a decent jump on the LB you can pick up 15 to 20 more often than not.

Play actions are also a bit of a personal favourite but again are no good in long yardage situations, so my entire offence goes belly up when I don't gain yards on 1st down (lining up pass plays and having Donovan run like cray sometimes works though).

Counter plays all the way on the run though. I dont think I've had success with a single sweep or toss play on Madden, though I gave up trying pretty quickly.

On D its something of a lottery. Flat Four when they've got about 4 or 5 yards to go gives you good protection against short routes and sweeps. Blitzes suck unless you can tie up the wideouts for a second or 2 with bump and run. I miss the old Maddens where you just lined up between to offensive lienmen and could get to the QB every time ;)

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I'm a big offense guy, but it seems like I always have MUCH more success against the computer running the ball, as opposed to passing. Against another person, it's passing all the way. I have found that when passing, I'll let the computer run the route, and then at the right moment, switch control of the receiver, hit the catch button, then I'm on my way. It's a timing thing, but when it works, it's damn near unstoppable.

On defense, I usually use some variation of the Nickel/Dime Man Cover 2 formation that's been batted around here, using an interior lineman to get pressure.

Most of my time these days has been preoccupied with NFL Street, so it requires somewhat of a change in thinking. Since part of the game requires style points, you have to decide which facet of the offense will give you the most style points per play. Since I've selfishly allocated most of my development points to my running back (me), I'm running all the time. On defense-well, it's a crap shoot.



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A bit off topic but in the same realm of football games..

How do you work around a salary cap in a season mode...say in ESPN NFL Football.

On the topic of offense/defense, I figure the best way to do it is just find ateam you're comfortable with. Myself, I'm getting used to the rams pass/run mix up style. It works well for me(I have yet to play a human opponent though)



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    Originally posted by shinstrife
    A bit off topic but in the same realm of football games..

    How do you work around a salary cap in a season mode...say in ESPN NFL Football.


The only real problem I had was guys holding out on me in Madden, or guys who would get down to 1 year left and then not sign for anything under 3 or 4 times their current salary.

In that case simply offer bugger all signing bonuses with big hefty contracts and trade the ungrateful swines away. You might have to take the marginally rougher end of the trade player wise but if you're smart the new guy'll be on a lot less money and you wont have incurred a cap pen on the old guy cos his signing bonus was nadda.

I'm currently a season or so away from losing McNabb and the swine wants about $14m a year. I've half a mind to trade him but I'm utterly mince with an immobile QB. Oh the quandry's....
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    Originally posted by dMr
      Originally posted by shinstrife
      A bit off topic but in the same realm of football games..

      How do you work around a salary cap in a season mode...say in ESPN NFL Football.


    The only real problem I had was guys holding out on me in Madden, or guys who would get down to 1 year left and then not sign for anything under 3 or 4 times their current salary.

    In that case simply offer bugger all signing bonuses with big hefty contracts and trade the ungrateful swines away. You might have to take the marginally rougher end of the trade player wise but if you're smart the new guy'll be on a lot less money and you wont have incurred a cap pen on the old guy cos his signing bonus was nadda.

    I'm currently a season or so away from losing McNabb and the swine wants about $14m a year. I've half a mind to trade him but I'm utterly mince with an immobile QB. Oh the quandry's....


Thanks. I was enjoying a pretty good franchise running the chiefs, didn't too shabby my first year but to sign these new prospects they wanted alot (1 million out of the gate, and I had to resign alot of my defensive players..or so I thought since I'm not that good at the whole draft/signing aspect of the game)

That and priest holmes gets injured in preseason thus screwing the chiefs offensively.



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It's all about both. One of my good friends is rated somewhere in the 100s in NCAA 2004. I can't believe how well he can control his safeties and CBs to pick off nearly every non-perfect ball you throw. You can't juke him at all. Good luck running the option!

And his offense is ridiculous. It is like he has four eyes. He can roll out with the best of them and never get sacked, while he always knows where his receivers and your DBs are.

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