I heard it too on Monday and was JUST bored enough to research further...
Originally posted by dwaters, in the RAW threadHow are they figuring his 22-0? TV wins only? It's kind of silly they don't count house shows--they're still WWE matches with a ref and a crowd-just no cameras....
Plus, I'm pretty sure he collected a few losses from his NXT*/AdR's bodyguard days, but for purposes of kayfabe, I believe they started counting from that period of time last year when he had a squash match on every episode of "Superstars" for about two months.
1-0 Superstars Aug 4th 2011 Brodus Clay def. Pat Silva 2-0 Superstars Aug 11th 2011 Brodus Clay def. Aaron James 3-0 Superstars Aug 18th 2011 Brodus Clay def. Jose Vargas 4-0 Superstars Aug 25th 2011 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Pete Gibson 5-0 Superstars Sep 1st 2011 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Brandon James 6-0 Superstars Sep 8th 2011 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Allen Turner 7-0 Superstars Sep 15th 2011 Brodus Clay def. Mike Palmer 8-0 Superstars Sep 22nd 2011 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Joey Gray 9-0 Superstars Sep 29th 2011 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Brian Thomas
Here was our long break, including weeks of "Brodus Clay is coming!" hype
Finally, the Funkasaurus "debuted..." 10-0 RAW Jan 9th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Curt Hawkins 11-0 Smackdown Jan 13th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Tyson Kidd 12-0 RAW Jan 16th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) JTG 13-0 RAW Jan 23rd 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Heath Slater 14-0 Smackdown Jan 27th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Alex Riley 15-0 Royal Rumble Jan 29th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Drew McIntyre 16-0 RAW Jan 30th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Tyler Reks 17-0 RAW Mar 12th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Jinder Mahal 18-0 Smackdown Mar 23rd 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Heath Slater (2) 19-0 RAW Mar 26th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Curt Hawkins (2) (not singles match) RAW Apr 9th 2012 Brodus Clay & Santino Marella def. (pin) Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger 20-0 RAW Apr 16th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (DQ) Dolph Ziggler 21-0 Smackdown Apr 20th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Hunico (not singles match) RAW Apr 23rd 2012 Brodus Clay & Hornswoggle def. (DQ) Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger 22-0 Extreme Rules Apr 29th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Dolph Ziggler (2) 23-0 RAW Apr 30th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) JTG (2) 24-0 Smackdown May 4th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (CO) Jack Swagger 25-0 RAW May 7th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) The Miz 26-0 Smackdown May 11th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) Hunico (2) (not singles match) RAW May 14th 2012 Brodus Clay & Kofi Kingston & R-Truth def. (pin) Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger & The Miz 6-person tag 27-0 Over the Limit May 20th 2012 Brodus Clay def. (pin) The Miz (2)
Maybe they didn't count PPV matches? Maybe they didn't count non-pinfall victories? Maybe they just weren't as thorough as some dude on the Internet was? Yeah, probably that one.
Oh, and...after further review...
RAW May 28th 2012 Brodus Clay (literally no contest) The Big Show
*actually - interestingly - at the time, somebody had the foresight to not book Clay into a SINGLE one on one defeat while he was on NXT! And yet he still didn't win his season.
He WAS pinned twice as Alberto del Rio's bodyguard, however - his first loss was to Christian (RAW 3/7/11) and he was also pinned by then-WHC Edge (Smackdown 3/18/11) in the leadup to the Edge/AdR WrestleMania (and Edge's "final") match
Finally, on FCW shows, he appears to be Percy Watson's bitch, but I can't confirm or deny that as I've never seen the show.
Originally posted by Tribal Prophet that last match with the Big Show shouldn't be a NC should it? I mean, Big Show never entered the ring, and the bell was never rung to start it.
Therefore it was a No Contest, since there was no contest. Right?
I always thought for there to be a No Contest, that you needed to at least start the match. Match starts, a bunch of nonsense happens. Maybe they do an injury angle, a ton of people run in, something else weird happens, etc. The ref never rings the bell to end it, and so they can't say DQ or countout or w/e.
Just seems weird to me that a match that never starts can have an ending. Something very philosophical about that.
Originally posted by Tribal ProphetAlso, that last match with the Big Show shouldn't be a NC should it? I mean, Big Show never entered the ring, and the bell was never rung to start it.
Excuse me! What time did you want to start the last fight? There is no last fight! There were ten! You lost! Give it up! The bet was ten, but your man only fought nine. What are you talking about? Your kid punked out. He forfeited. A forfeit counts, didn't you know that? Of course it counts, when there's a forfeit. But, in this case, there's no forfeit because Robby never entered the ring. What kind of kindergarten bullshit is this?
Ironically, WWE has one guy on Smackdown getting 'Goldberg!' chants, and someone else on Raw whose undefeated streak has a number attached to it.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." --- Bart Giamatti, on baseball
It's a shame, really...I remember when Duggan was a credible face with decent power moves and brawling skills. But then he went to the WWF and that was the end of that. My fave mid-80s Duggan moment--Duggan is wrestling Flair for the NWA title.