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I was watching Rebellion 2001 last night, and the opening match happened to be Edge vs. Christian in a cage. But not the chain mesh cages that get used far too often these days, it was the glorious steel bar cage from the good old days. That got me to thinking about the pros and cons of each type of cage (Hell in the Cell and all those other wacky ones, too) and was wondering which cage you Wieners preferred and why? As for myself, I just wish they'd pull out the classic cages more often.



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Myself, I like the old blue steel bar cage. It always seemed more punishing when someone got thrown into it.



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I like the steel bars too, myself.

Although the mesh cage makes a nice sound when someone really slams into it.



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Another vote for the blue steel bars. Makes it a lot easier for someone to get secure footing for general climbing as well as any spots at and around the top.



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    Originally posted by Ubermonkeys
    Another vote for the blue steel bars. Makes it a lot easier for someone to get secure footing for general climbing as well as any spots at and around the top.


I think I read at one time that the reason they had the blue steel bars was because in the 80's, the superstars at the time had trouble, let's say, negotiating a traditional mesh cage. Is this true?






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#6 Posted on
I prefer the mesh style cages. Maybe it's because that's the style of cage I grew up watching guys like Ric Flair have their matches in. Those cages just seem more authentic, less cartoony, than the WWF big blue bars.

Plus, I hate the WWF steel cage rules that declare the winner as the first one out of the cage.



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Funny, Edge just mentioned that match in his last column (the one before the one that's out now) and made mention of "The Cage". I liked the look of the big bar cage but like the clinky sounds of the mesh cage. Also, I believe the reason they changed was because the mesh cage is safer to bump off of. Edge also made mention of how much it hurt. heh. The mesh cage also allows one to do the scrape your opponents face into the cage spot. It's got good bounce too.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.44

    Originally posted by The 5th Horseman
    Plus, I hate the WWF steel cage rules that declare the winner as the first one out of the cage.

Forigve my ignorance, but what kind of rules have other feds used? Winner = First one out seems pretty logical to me.



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    Forigve my ignorance, but what kind of rules have other feds used? Winner = First one out seems pretty logical to me.



In other Feds, escape is irrelevent. Pin or Submission is the only way to win.





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    Originally posted by Mr Tuesday

      Forigve my ignorance, but what kind of rules have other feds used? Winner = First one out seems pretty logical to me.



    In other Feds, escape is irrelevent. Pin or Submission is the only way to win.


Ah, Hell-in-a-cell style rules.



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I never thought that escape rules were logical. That meant to win, you had to run away from the fight. And, the whole mistique of no way in, no way out is shot dead by guys easily climbing in and out.





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I am partial to the Chamber of Horrors cage from Halloween Havok with the "Electric Chair" in the middle of it.

But seriously- I like the mesh looking kind best. The one they used for the Elimantion Chamber was pretty cool, though. My all time favorite was the Triple Cage WCW used once (and featured in the David Arquette vehicle- Ready to Rumble).



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I remember someone complaining - maybe it was Rick Rude, who'd had his share of bumps into the old blue bar cage - saying that they got of rid of them because they legitimately hurt like hell whenever you got rammed into them.



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I don't mind escape being a way to win, but it HAS to be over the top. When the ref just opens the door for you, it's pretty lame.



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I agree, escape is lame. Tally me with those who prefer the mesh cage, too.

Whenever I think about how lame the win-by-escape rule is, it occurs to me that a reverse cage match, with lose-by-escape-only rules would be cool. The only way you can win is if your opponent leaves the cage first, whether it be by fleeing from you, or by throwing him out.

This would be a natural signature match for Nathan Jones, if he ever gets good enough to bother with.

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    Originally posted by FMW
    I never thought that escape rules were logical. That meant to win, you had to run away from the fight. And, the whole mistique of no way in, no way out is shot dead by guys easily climbing in and out.


The no way in no way out idea wasn't really hyped until Hell in a Cell. I always looked at the cage as a good way to end a long feud. It would be a brutal match and with the cage around it would keep outside interference specifically from a manager to a minimum. Also it was good for beatdowns where the heels would lock up the door and then climb in and the refs could not climb in to stop it.
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#18 Posted on
I like the old school mesh cages. The best one was the one that WCCW used. It looked like it might fall apart at any minute, but the wrestlers just kept beating the hell out of it, match after match.

It was also the first place I saw the old "try to crawl out and get your head slammed in the door" spot, during a Kerry Von Erich match vs Ric Flair. Michael PS Haynes slammed Kerry's head and it looked so brutal I about pissed myself. This started one of the best fueds ever, the Von Erich vs Freebirds.
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I definitley prefer the steel-mesh cages. The big bar cages look way too cartoony. Plus, the steel-mesh has much more give, so the wrestlers can take better bumps on it. The big bar cages were so damn hard, that the wrestlers always had to get their hands up in the most noticeable of ways.

So put me down for steel-mesh.



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I completely forgot about the WCW triple cage when writing the original post, and must admit I am quite partial to that one as well, as far as over the top gimmick matches tend to go.



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