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MisterHenderson
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.87
So what is the forum consensus towards Yankee fans booing A-rod unmercifully?

I love the Yanks and I love A-Rod, but as a fan I get extremely frustrated when he makes an error on a play that he can make in his sleep. Booing is the only outlet I have to vent.

Nowadays, it seems to be "the thing" to do. Fans seem to be waiting for him to blunder just so they can jump all over him.

I know a lot of people will point to the contract and say "Hey, he signed for a quarter of a BILLION dollars, over ten years!" he needs to suck it up and realize that it comes with the job.

I can understand that line of thinking, but there comes a point when you have to say, enough. Let the guy play the game and let him get out of his slump on his own. He is the reining AL MVP, after all.



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Putting aside my fandom of the Red Sox, I'm pretty sure he'd figured this was a possibility. He's averaging over $25 million a year to play baseball. Of course there's going to be absurd expectations. Problem is that now it's getting to him. That's not going to stop the boos, all he can really do is play his way out of it. I don't think anything short of a title will stop the boos, and even then, he'd have to come up biggly huge.



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I think if you're the highest paid player by some 20% and you are:

(1) Having a (for you) subpar year
(2) Make five errors in a week
(3) Strikeout four times in a game

AND you do that all on a second-place team with an overall monster payroll in the nation's media capital, you gonna get friggin' booed, so you'd better be able to deal.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
Yankees fans giving themselves a bad name again, in my opinion. The only cuurent player as good/better than him (over a significant period of time) is Pujols. He's clearly losing confidence, and Yankees fans aren't making it better by booing him mercilessly. They wouldn't be close to the playoffs without him.



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I don't get booing your star player at any time. It makes a player play worse more often than it makes people play better. I remember last year when Beltran got booed it frustrated me. Because of the the fan's reaction it was clear that Beltran wasn't having a good time playing in New York. And that's not being too sensitive either, I have no problem with a player wanting be liked where he plays. How many people go to their job and have to be heckled by everyone around them? Probably none, they all want to be welcomed at their job too.

Who was the last person the Yankees fans ran out of town? Jose Contreras? How is that working for them? For a fan base that gets praised for how smart they are, they sure are morons a lot of the time. I'm sure a lot of Yankees fans think that booing the star player when he's having a bad year, or even a bad day, is being a die hard fan, but I think it's actually the opposite. Being a die hard fan is cheering for your team and players even when they aren't doing well.

I don't get the getting paid so much argument either. It's A-Rod's fault that the Texas Rangers threw so much money at him? He's supposed to say "no, I only want 10 million a year". Heck no, any fan booing him would take that money in a heartbeat and they probably aren't nearly as good as their job as A-Rod. Plus he's getting paid like the best player in the game, and he IS the best player in the game. Who is the highest paid player in the NFL? Peyton Manning? I don't see him getting booed out of the stadium every time he throws an incomplete pass. Who is the highest paid player in the NBA? Shaq? He sure isn't the best player in the NBA anymore, yet he never gets booed out of his arena.



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I think the booing is out of control. People are obviously booing him because of the contract. However, I feel that due to his talent level and past history, people expect him to hit.340 with 40+hr and 100+RBI every year, which is something no-one can realistically do, in my opinion. I agree that booing him has pretty much become the "cool" thing to do, much like with John Cena in the WWE. Sure he is slumping, and has blown many opportunities to come up big in the clutch,but people are overlooking many important factors.

In his defense, he has been playing out of position since day one. In his first season in NY, he concentrated on defense, and played gold glove caliber 3rd base in the second half. However, his offense suffered. Last season, his focus was on offense, and he hit very well. Unfortunately, his defense suffered. This year, he seems unsure of what to focus on, and the result is that he is unable to do either well. Alex also seems pretty thin skinned. He doesn't strike me as the type of player that can thrive in a market like NY or Boston. The fans and media are just too critical. Put A-rod in a small market team like Florida or back to Seattle, especially at his natural position of short stop, and he would thrive. Some people just aren't built for NY. Its a testament to his talent that he is able to compete at the level he is right now, despite this fact.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by i before e
    I think the booing is out of control. People are obviously booing him because of the contract. However, I feel that due to his talent level and past history, people expect him to hit.340 with 40+hr and 100+RBI every year, which is something no-one can realistically do, in my opinion. I agree that booing him has pretty much become the "cool" thing to do, much like with John Cena in the WWE. Sure he is slumping, and has blown many opportunities to come up big in the clutch,but people are overlooking many important factors.

    In his defense, he has been playing out of position since day one. In his first season in NY, he concentrated on defense, and played gold glove caliber 3rd base in the second half. However, his offense suffered. Last season, his focus was on offense, and he hit very well. Unfortunately, his defense suffered. This year, he seems unsure of what to focus on, and the result is that he is unable to do either well. Alex also seems pretty thin skinned. He doesn't strike me as the type of player that can thrive in a market like NY or Boston. The fans and media are just too critical. Put A-rod in a small market team like Florida or back to Seattle, especially at his natural position of short stop, and he would thrive. Some people just aren't built for NY. Its a testament to his talent that he is able to compete at the level he is right now, despite this fact.


People are booing him because the stupid, sensationalist New York media is encouraging it. I don't understand why they all decided to jump on him this year, but they did so with a vengeance and haven't let up for a second.

Also, on this point, I know I'm being nitpicky, but:

    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Plus he's getting paid like the best player in the game, and he IS the second best player in the game.


Albert Pujols called me and objected.

Your point on the money still stands, though.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Who was the last person the Yankees fans ran out of town? Jose Contreras? How is that working for them?
If memory serves, Jose Contreras pre-2004-trade was not quite Jose Contreras 2005-2006. He did have a crappy ERA and was pitching like crap in 2004, and while he was certainly hearing it from the fans, he was hardly "run out of town".

I think in a general sense, Yankee fans are always at the ready to boo Alex Rodriguez, and there are lots of reasons for this. None of them truly good reasons, but reasons nonetheless.

1. Alex Rodriguez is earning about $25 million a year, and the expectations that are placed on him to "justify his salary" are immense. He won the AL MVP last year and still people bashed him (myself included, and I now wish I hadn't).

2. Alex Rodriguez is not Derek Jeter. The Yankee captain, in the eyes of Yankee fans, is almost infallible. The two used to be pals, but it seems that since Rodriguez made some pointedly negative comments a few years ago (I believe in a GQ article), they haven't been close. From what I read in the papers and hear on the broadcasts, they don't get along much, and I believe that the logic of a lot of the fans is such that "any enemy of Derek's is an enemy of mine."

3. Alex Rodriguez has that certain something (je nais se qua, if you will), that rubs people the wrong way, in my opinion. The way he says things, his turn-of-phrase, perhaps, is not endearing. You don't ever see him joking around or hamming it up like other players do, and it's rare, if ever, you see him kibitzing with other players. He seems to be a nice enough guy (re: him flying Kazmir to the All-Star game, he signs a LOT of autographs), but he always says or does something that makes people say, "Wow, that guy sounds like a dick!"

4. He just went through as bad of a two week stretch as a player can have. With the runners left on base, the errors, and the total lack of hitting, he has truly sucked. Players like Mike Mussina throwing him under the bus by saying he made the wrong play (against Toronto when he threw home instead of to first - he would have had the runner nailed but made a terrible throw) don't help matters. I don't remember the last time Mike Mussina pitched like crap and a player said, "Well, he should have used his knuckle-curve more - he needs to keep players off balance or he'll lose." At a time when the Yankees are without Sheffield, Matsui, and Cano, and with Damon hurt on and off, he could have had the Yankees in first place by 2-3 games over Boston with a hot bat over the last two weeks plus.

Myself, I like the example he sets. He has an insanely putrid game in the field - the next day he is out working his butt off taking grounders and practicing throws to first. When he's in a slump, he takes extra batting practice. He is far more fan-friendly than many players, especially star players. He keeps his nose clean and doesn't get into trouble. It is said in the media that players think he's a good teammate. I didn't like the slap he made at the ball with Arroyo a few years back, but other than that, I have no qualms.

One thing about his contract: after this year, he will have 4 years remaining on the 10 year deal he signed. I don't know the exact amounts, but the Texas Rangers are paying approximately 50% of his contract over the last 4 years - roughly $55 million. If that is the case, Alex Rodriguez at $12-13 million sounds like a pretty reasonable player, and makes it even MORE absurd for the Yankees to think about trading him.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
This week's Sportscenter even brought up the possibility of TRADE RUMORS surrounding A-Rod, which is a sure sign that things are getting out of control. Honestly, I think A-Rod's future hinges on the postseason. If he falls asleep again, it's over for him as a New Yorker. Of course, this all hinges on the Yankees even MAKING the postseason, because they still need to catch up to Boston and/or Chicago and now the Twins are also sneaking up on the wild card. I don't see A-Rod in pinstripes next year the way things are progressing.

    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Who was the last person the Yankees fans ran out of town? Jose Contreras? How is that working for them?


Alfonso Soriano, anyone?




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.45
The only reason they traded Soriano was to get A-Rod. It's not like all they got back was Bad Wilkerson. This week Soriano will be traded a third time for a ransom.

Contreras could never have pitched well in New York, he had plenty of chances here, but it's not for everybody. Vazquez too.

Randy Johnson was getting booed earlier, and I'm not for booing A-Rod either. But as sure as the sun will rise, he will produce and the booing will stop. The trade rumors may make good sports talk, but it won't happen.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.87
Man, I do NOT want Soriano back on the Yankees. I firmly believe that Steve Phillips started the trade rumors on his own, just to stir the pot, because he doesn't like Alex Rodriguez.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.50
Yankee fans boo A-Rod because in their eyes, he is not a "real" Yankee. Just like they never fully accepted Clemens as on of their own, they will never accept ARod as a true Yankee. Jeter, Bernie, Posada, Rivera - in the fans eyes they are true Yankees who they heap their undying love on. ARod was suppossed to be a outsider that would bring them back a World Series title or two. And so far, nada. If they had won a title in his time here in NY, they would not be so hard on him. Until that happens, he will get the brunt of the boos.



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